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Planning on a FXE/n2O session with my girlfriend and i just cant wait, i think about it like all day. We are gonna have a hotel room so i will actual be able to hole and really go for it. She hasnt used any Dissos besides Nitrous and PCP so she is in for quite the treat. Im gonna give her like 100-125mgs in two lines and have her do one in each nostril, then im gonna do just a little bit for me to tide me over maybe 100mgs (light dose for me) so i can watch her and make sure she is okay.

Im gonna blow up a 5 cart balloon and guage her reactions so when i see its starting to hit her imma give her it to take some big lungfulls and that almost surely gonna hole her. Then when she is coming around im gonna dump out half a gram and make four lines, do two of them and make a 7-8 cart balloon and wait till i feel it coming on and do it all quickly as possible and fade into the bed.

When i start coming down ill do the other two lines and repeat the process. Then that will be all for the FXE and we will just do n2O for the evening, surely feeling the balloons more from having the disso in us still. Then im gonna comeback to the halfway and lay in bed smiling and listening to music till i drift off to sleep. Should be a blast.
 
simstim said:
Man, I really want to trip today but I don't know if I can. 25b-NBOH tolerance is a beast.

I snorted 8mg the other day and barely tripped when that much before had me just about floored.

I read it takes two weeks to recover from NBOH tolerance.

I ideally I would like to trip weekly at this club I've been going to every Friday the past few weeks but it would seem to be too soon for the tolerance to reset.

Looks like I'm gonna try tripping twice a month. I'm hoping to trip on the 11th. It's my buddy's birthday and a couple of my friends might come out to the club so I wanna 25b-NBOH flip with mdma.
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I'd recommend finding something that isn't an NBOX drug. Those things absolutely fuck your tolerance and are more dangerous besides, especially in high doses (NBOH less so than NBOMe, it seems, but still). They're full agonists which means your tolerance will keep raising. But if you used most other psychedelics weekly, you could get away with it for a lot longer. Or twice monthly, pretty much indefinitely. That said, every single week tripping on anything is going to slowly build you into having a gargantuan perma-tolerance that will require a very long break to get past. But NBOHs will do that much quicker.
 
Xorkoth said:
I'd recommend finding something that isn't an NBOX drug. Those things absolutely fuck your tolerance and are more dangerous besides, especially in high doses (NBOH less so than NBOMe, it seems, but still). They're full agonists which means your tolerance will keep raising. But if you used most other psychedelics weekly, you could get away with it for a lot longer. Or twice monthly, pretty much indefinitely. That said, every single week tripping on anything is going to slowly build you into having a gargantuan perma-tolerance that will require a very long break to get past. But NBOHs will do that much quicker.
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I was thinking of getting some allylescaline but it sounds a bit mild. Maybe it would be good to go to the club on though.

I really enjoy the 25b-nboh at higher doses. Sucks that I can't do that as often as I would like to.
 
It is quite mild. I have some, and have used it twice. Absolutely no bodyload, also nothing amazing, it's almost more like a light empathogen, but light in all respects. A day enhancer for sure, maybe in really high doses it would get more psychedelic. I hear it works great in combos, though. it's main benefit is that it is SO comfortable, there are no downsides at all, except how mild it is
 
Im telling you tripping too much absolutely ruins it, ive gone periods dosing 2-3 times a week rotating all kinds of drugs and towards the end i literally didnt even get visuals anymore period. Even on like 40-50mgs of snorted Pscilacetin or a handful of LSD blotters, huge doses of 2C-B...nada. towards that point i would get a mind shift but that was about it.

DOC still had that stimulating push so i kept going with that for months but eventually i gave up and took a year off. That is period was like maybe 3 years of heavy duty tripping. At times if i mixed them with a huge dose of Dissos id have some visual activity but it was minor and probably mainly from the Disso itself.

Its honestly a waste of drugs cus i couldve been smart and tripped once or twice a month and had better quality experiences. After the year break it went back to normal again, but i started getting back to that point before i got locked up again. My tendency when i get a drug collection locked down is to start slowly and then eventually a switch flips and im dropping like mad. Ive done this quite a few times over the last 25 years of psychedelic use.
 
Did some O-PCE tonight. Using the manic push to help me pack up for my move at the end of the month.

Gonna do some dissociatives with my partner this weekend and I am so excited for it. They've never done a dissociative and have been struggling with depression and using cannabis and alcohol to cope. I'm cool with the cannabis but the alcohol use worries me. I'm hoping they find some relief from the dissociative. They're a talented musician and chef and just super creative so I think they'll enjoy it. I'm gonna give them 2f-dck and will probably do DMXE myself.

The thought popped in my head recently of combining 5-Meo-Dipt and DMXE. DMXE has been a superb sex drug for me and puts me in a lovely headspace. I've never tried 5-meo-dipt but have been wanting to try it for over a decade. I'm thinking the DMXE might smooth out any physical discomfort from the 5-meo-dipt. My only worry is the possible mild maoi effects from the 5-meo-dipt. Anyone have any insight into whether or not it might be safe?
 
My girl sniffed 125mgs of FXE and she is all the way out there right now, and she is deff enjoying it doesnt want anymore n2O. Well i caved guys and i just sniffed 250mgs, its gonna be okay. If a false positive happens im just gonna have them send it to a lab and ill be cleared. Also on 1 gram of Soma like she is, but i also took 500mgs of Pregabalin. D

idnt wanna give her any of that cuz she has to drive at 10pm, im starting to feel it hit me, time for some more balloons. This combo feels godly right now 😍
 
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cosmic charlie said:
My girl sniffed 125mgs of FXE and she is all the way out there right now, and she is deff enjoying it doesnt want anymore n2O. Well i caved guys and i just sniffed 250mgs, its gonna be okay. If a false positive happens im just gonna have them send it to a lab and ill be cleared. Also on 1 gram of Soma like she is, but i also took 500mgs of Pregabalin. D

idnt wanna give her any of that cuz she has to drive at 10pm, im starting to feel it hit me, time for some more balloons. This combo feels godly right now 😍
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How stable you feel FXE is compared to MXE?
 
Regarding dying on drugs like 5-meo..

Some drugs have zero chance essentially, besides dying from mistakes made under the influence(falling down stairs). Weed, lsd, mushrooms. For me I like using these drugs and a big part is the lack of danger, physically from the drugs.

But every other drug essentially has sone potential to kill and it's not worth worrying about when it's mostly outliers with added stuff like dehydration or high temperature environments.

I'm sure if the hill I rode up was another 100m longer my heart/brain would of exploded while I was tripping quite hard on mescaline. It increases your blood pressure and heart rate. It gives you amazing energy to push beyond your regular limits. Combined that can kill you and that can happen on any stimulating drug really. Doesn't mean I won't use stimulating drugs, just means I have to be mindful.
 
moonyham said:
Regarding dying on drugs like 5-meo..

Some drugs have zero chance essentially, besides dying from mistakes made under the influence(falling down stairs). Weed, lsd, mushrooms. For me I like using these drugs and a big part is the lack of danger, physically from the drugs.

But every other drug essentially has sone potential to kill and it's not worth worrying about when it's mostly outliers with added stuff like dehydration or high temperature environments.

I'm sure if the hill I rode up was another 100m longer my heart/brain would of exploded while I was tripping quite hard on mescaline. It increases your blood pressure and heart rate. It gives you amazing energy to push beyond your regular limits. Combined that can kill you and that can happen on any stimulating drug really. Doesn't mean I won't use stimulating drugs, just means I have to be mindful.
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I'm starting to feel better about using 5-meo-dmt. It's still something I'd only do with a sitter or two that I trust a lot. The fact that Mike Tyson used it daily for a while makes me feel a bit better. It's an experience that I feel I must have before I die. I have what equates to a life time supply for me, so I have plenty of time to prepare for it.
 
Decided to try out 20mg of 4-HO-EPT today. I was planning on 10+10+10mg, but got started a bit late so just went for 20mg.

Like Nervewing said, it's weird stuff. The comeup was a bit rough, mild jangly stimulation and anxiousness. I decided that I didn't much care for that, so I took a bunch of CBD and a pinch of kratom it settled down into a very pleasant experience, but too mild. Right after taking CBD, I literally could have gone for a 50% booster. I think it's bizarre that such a mild experience can produce somatic anxiety, albeit not nearly as much as the 30mg of 4-AcO-EPT did. It's like the material got loaded up with all the wrong points on the character sheet.

Bit of a shame, really. I quite like N,N-EPT's character but I have yet to get it to be properly psychedelic. I'd hoped the 4-subs would be better, but it doesn't seem that way. I ended up capping off the evening with 2C-D as a booster, which ended up being a satisfying way to round out the state and my evening.
 
My experience with 4-HO-EPT was kind of like that, except I didn't experience it as true anxiety, it was just the physical aspect. For a minute I started to get anxious but then I realized it was just body sensations. But yeah it never developed into true psychedelia, it was more an afternoon of thinking and reflecting (and hiking).
 
Thinking of doing 6-APB + 4-HO-MET combo when I wake up later today. Gonna be seeing my partner later that night. It might be fun 😁

Then the day after I'm introducing her to dissociatives. Gonna give her some 2f-dck and I'll probably consume some DMXE. DMXE, 3-HO-PCP, O-PCE; those should be safe to do at the tail end of 6-APB, right?
 
Pfafffed said:
Decided to try out 20mg of 4-HO-EPT today. I was planning on 10+10+10mg, but got started a bit late so just went for 20mg.

Like Nervewing said, it's weird stuff. The comeup was a bit rough, mild jangly stimulation and anxiousness. I decided that I didn't much care for that, so I took a bunch of CBD and a pinch of kratom it settled down into a very pleasant experience, but too mild. Right after taking CBD, I literally could have gone for a 50% booster. I think it's bizarre that such a mild experience can produce somatic anxiety, albeit not nearly as much as the 30mg of 4-AcO-EPT did. It's like the material got loaded up with all the wrong points on the character sheet.

Bit of a shame, really. I quite like N,N-EPT's character but I have yet to get it to be properly psychedelic. I'd hoped the 4-subs would be better, but it doesn't seem that way. I ended up capping off the evening with 2C-D as a booster, which ended up being a satisfying way to round out the state and my evening.
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In my experience, 20 mg of 4-HO-EPT is almost nothing. I personally find that the potency is specifically alike 4-HO-DPT and not alike other 4-substituted tryptamines in that same way. To me it just sounds like you took a really low dosage and fittingly got very little effect out of it.

It’s not an easy one to get right in my experience though. The good trips on it I actually think are some of the most hedonistic and enjoyable trips I’ve ever had on anything, and unfortunately they come maybe like a third of time at most, and the rest of the times literally basically suck.

I hate to tell you, but I took it all the way to 100 mg and it never became “properly” psychedelic. That’s just not really what it is in my experience. I personally think of it as something that’s probably more like the 5-MeO-DMT of 4-substituted tryptamines. Even when it’s impressive and engaging it’s still mostly light and lacking in color in the visual department and it’s similar to other bulky tryptamines in that it tends to feel more narcotic than stimulating like less bulky tryptamines. If you hit that complete release point you’ll like it though. But it’s honestly still not that memorable then.

EPT is leagues ahead of it. It’s also not as memorable as it is fun though if you ask me.
 
Yeah, I think you're right. It just felt like the effects that I wanted weren't scaling. The annoyances were all out of proportion to the desirable effects. It was like the stimulation of 30mg of 2C-B but with the cognitive and sensory effects of 5mg of 2C-B. N,N-EPT has simply had a better balance of effects even if those effects are really mild. I think Nervewing recommended starting at 40mg, but after starting at 30mg of 4-AcO-EPT and finding that to be overstimulating, i decided to titrate up in 10mg increments. Based on your and Nervewing's reports, I'm not convinced that it's worth the hassle. I might just keep titrating up with N,N-EPT instead, as it's still quite pleasant at lower intensities. I think 80mg rectally next time with that one.
 
If it makes you feel better, I have more of 4-HO-EPT than literally any other psychedelic.

It’s depressing.
 
That's a big oof. When I picked mine up my hopes were high after EPT, but it was after 4-AcO-EPT to at least my expectations were low. I didn't get very much. Most of the 4 subs that I thought I would love, I didn't. Most of the ones I didn't think I would like, I loved. Maybe that's an indication that I should try that 4-AcO-DPT that I've had laying around forever
 
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