Hello and an MDPV Question

[Holynovocaine]

All I know is what I can taste. The difference is like night and. I have read in many places that the freebase version is highly unstable, and in fact, to get the effects I'm looking for I have to oxygenate the precipitate with an aquarium pump for 48 hours prior to drying, so maybe there is some chemical reaction which cleaves off one or more of the carbon atoms or some other structure. Don't have a clue. I only know that the white and all other currently available versions of mdpv is utter shit, and the freebase/processed version is divine.

Will one of you guys help me please?
I have encountered some MDPV been stashed for 10 plus years and I'm the lucky recipient "it's in salt form and when I try to wash it I get tan gloop immediately with little heat after I ass bicarb water to the md with couple drops acetone, but it's collecting the gloopy brown or tan oil and drying it that kills me. I'm only guessing on the whole process and don't talk precipitate and all that jazz, can you give me basic instructions in layman's terms of how to freebase my old original half kilo. I dare not try a quantity and its unstable as freebase so think ill just wash a gram or so. Can you help me please. Pretty please with sugar on top.
One love
Peaches

 

[Holynovocaine]

Interesting... but seems a bit beyond my non-existent chemistry skillz sadly. Have enough trouble finding even the white stuff at decent price/quality and would undoubtedly fuck up the conversion and lose the lot. Have got it to the yellow stage before and found no worthwhile qualitative difference but had no idea there was more processing to be had. Bookmarked for a time of cheap abundant white stuff to play around with though. Would be interested to see how it turns out with the changes. Homecooked tan peeveeeef would truly be a thing of beauty

Yeah I agree with you but I'm really lucky to have happened on a fair bit of dirt cheap MDPV been stashed for 10 years and it's the dogs. Really good shit but I still can't suss this process out although I do get close, however I need to wash it cis it's doing my throat lungs and sinus in I th hcl from. It is my lover, my little helper and my treasure. Much more reliable than any manhas been, I'm a straight female, kinda wild and crazee. Anyway I digress, or should I say talk shit. Lol would one of you lovely gents help me find out how I wash ths MDPV

 

[Holynovocaine]

Just tried this myself and for some reason the MDPV doesn't precipitate out when I add the baking soda. Only used 100ml of water though. What could have gone wrong?

Too much water

 

[Holynovocaine]

Too much water

That's a question? Sorry if it sounds rude. 100 ml water is about 99% more than I'd dare to use but I can't get it right either. Heeelp

 

[Holynovocaine]

^ I am not he but I would humbly suggest that your issue may be with tolerance and increasing age - I can relate to both too...

But tan and white peevee are two very distinct entities and both from very recent history. There is very good reason why tan peevee is worshipped as a god and white peevee almost universally scorned - it really is very hard to believe they are the same substance. Related substances yes, the same not in a million years. Just mention "tan peevee" to any peevee user and see the resulting paean

Yep I agree

 

[arrall]

McAfee had some interesting discussion about this thread and his life on the 2012 episode of the Joe Rogan Experience (#290).

 

[H4L101]

Sorry to bring this thread back up but I think I know the answer to this mystery. The "tan MDPV" McAfee is referring to is actually MDPHP. More then likely when the "tan" first came into play it wasn't MDPV at at..it was Freebase MDPHP which is exactly that. Also the effects of MDPHP are exactly on par with what's being described as well.

 

[arrall]

Sorry to bring this thread back up but I think I know the answer to this mystery. The "tan MDPV" McAfee is referring to is actually MDPHP. More then likely when the "tan" first came into play it wasn't MDPV at at..it was Freebase MDPHP which is exactly that. Also the effects of MDPHP are exactly on par with what's being described as well.

I believe that he admitted that this was a troll thread.

 

[H4L101]

I would say that too . Ty though I didn't know that and have thought about this thread every so often.

 

[SealSlapper]

Hello Everyone. I've been lurking here for years and just recently decided to join up. I'm hoping to get some help here.

I'm a huge fan of MDPV. Not the white hydrochloride - it's inconceivable that anyone on the planet would willingly put that into their bodies -- I'm talking the freebase form. I think many of you that don't bother to freebase it yourself have at least tasted the freebase version when it was widely available as "tan mdpv". I think it's the finest drug evere conceived, not just for the indescribable hypersexuality, but also for the smooth euphoria and mild comedown.

My question is this: How can I more easilly separate the oil from the precipitate using some mechanical means?

Here's the nightmarish process I've been going through so far:

First I precipitate and then place the container on a foot vibrator for 30 minutes to raise the first oil (the oil is heavier than water, by the way):

Then I painstakingly touch each droplet with the point of a hyperdermic, which causes the oil to climb up the needle. Then I slowly extract the needle until the surface tension at the top allows the oil to float.

I can only do a small amount at a time or else the oil collects into a ball large enough to sink again. I draw off the oil with a filed down needle point and then spend another 30 mitues of vibrating until the next batch rises. As I proceed, the droplets become smaller and smaller until they are barely visible. The complete extraction takes 5 to 6 hours.

For anyone who freebases mdpv, by the way -- the oil is dangerous beyond belief. When I first started doing this I accidently got a few drops on my fingers while handling a used flask and didn't sleep for 4 days. I had visual and auditory hallucinations and the worst paranoia of my life. It's all the bad aspects of white mdpv times a hundred. If you think the comedown from the white mdpv is bad, rub this oil into your skin. You'll be begging for a hundred milligram dose of the white in exchange. Use rubber gloves.

Anyway --- can someone tell me how I can mechanically separate the oil from the precipitate in less than 5 hours? I definitaely don't want to use a reagent. I'm not a chemist or any kind of scientist by the way, just someone who refused to accept the "new mdpv".

Thank you.

I would love to try MDPV some day as I've heard it is like a more powerful version of meth, however I wanted to ask what is the difference in feeling of MDPV white hydrochloride and MDPV Tan Freebase? I really want to know. Does hydrochloride make you psychotic or something. Please let me know. Thanks.

 

[SealSlapper]

Hello Everyone. I've been lurking here for years and just recently decided to join up. I'm hoping to get some help here.

I'm a huge fan of MDPV. Not the white hydrochloride - it's inconceivable that anyone on the planet would willingly put that into their bodies -- I'm talking the freebase form. I think many of you that don't bother to freebase it yourself have at least tasted the freebase version when it was widely available as "tan mdpv". I think it's the finest drug evere conceived, not just for the indescribable hypersexuality, but also for the smooth euphoria and mild comedown.

My question is this: How can I more easilly separate the oil from the precipitate using some mechanical means?

Here's the nightmarish process I've been going through so far:

First I precipitate and then place the container on a foot vibrator for 30 minutes to raise the first oil (the oil is heavier than water, by the way):

Then I painstakingly touch each droplet with the point of a hyperdermic, which causes the oil to climb up the needle. Then I slowly extract the needle until the surface tension at the top allows the oil to float.

I can only do a small amount at a time or else the oil collects into a ball large enough to sink again. I draw off the oil with a filed down needle point and then spend another 30 mitues of vibrating until the next batch rises. As I proceed, the droplets become smaller and smaller until they are barely visible. The complete extraction takes 5 to 6 hours.

For anyone who freebases mdpv, by the way -- the oil is dangerous beyond belief. When I first started doing this I accidently got a few drops on my fingers while handling a used flask and didn't sleep for 4 days. I had visual and auditory hallucinations and the worst paranoia of my life. It's all the bad aspects of white mdpv times a hundred. If you think the comedown from the white mdpv is bad, rub this oil into your skin. You'll be begging for a hundred milligram dose of the white in exchange. Use rubber gloves.

Anyway --- can someone tell me how I can mechanically separate the oil from the precipitate in less than 5 hours? I definitaely don't want to use a reagent. I'm not a chemist or any kind of scientist by the way, just someone who refused to accept the "new mdpv".

Thank you.

Very interesting post btw. You learn something new every day

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

In my lived experience freebase MDPV forms as a Yellow Paste / Crystal & is insane in the mg dose & it's power when smoked.
My mate loved to freebase MDPV, we were getting 99.8% Pure MDPV Hcl & he would freebase the Hcl on a dinner plate.

I picked it up one day after he had been freebasing all day, I began to feel VERY ILL after 2-3 minutes of touching the plate, it turned out he had "washed" PV all over the damn plate & just from touching it I had managed to get MDPV into my body somehow & it made me feel so fucking ill I cannot express it in words.

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

I would love to try MDPV some day as I've heard it is like a more powerful version of meth, however I wanted to ask what is the difference in feeling of MDPV white hydrochloride and MDPV Tan Freebase? I really want to know. Does hydrochloride make you psychotic or something. Please let me know. Thanks.

Smoked Hcl when you run it on foil like Heroin it hits right away & you get a good 20-30 minute high, it's a very more-ish thing & you keep smoking it. The rush is so clean & amazing I was hooked after the first time I tried it.

Freebase MDPV in my experience turned into a yellow paste & crystal, it gives a VERY POTENT rush, it's the kind of feeling that I didn't like, it made me "speak to God" to ask that I didn't die from my heart going bang. It's Hyper Sexual in freebase form, smoking Hcl takes a few lines before the Porn comes out, it takes 1 pipe of freebase & your dick goes to 1cm long yet you tug at the damn thing wishing you could get hard.

I have never tried Meth, MDPV was a huge issue for me, the worst was a-PVP & on that stuff I went totally nuts, I was awake 9 days with NO SLEEP & ended up being locked away in a Secure Mental Health Unit for 2 weeks.

 

[fuckabout89]

I believe that he admitted that this was a troll thread.

He admitted it was troll thread because he didn't want people to believe some of degenerate shit he was doing. He wasnt trolling lol, it was a way to save face.

 

[SealSlapper]

Smoked Hcl when you run it on foil like Heroin it hits right away & you get a good 20-30 minute high, it's a very more-ish thing & you keep smoking it. The rush is so clean & amazing I was hooked after the first time I tried it.

Freebase MDPV in my experience turned into a yellow paste & crystal, it gives a VERY POTENT rush, it's the kind of feeling that I didn't like, it made me "speak to God" to ask that I didn't die from my heart going bang. It's Hyper Sexual in freebase form, smoking Hcl takes a few lines before the Porn comes out, it takes 1 pipe of freebase & your dick goes to 1cm long yet you tug at the damn thing wishing you could get hard.

I have never tried Meth, MDPV was a huge issue for me, the worst was a-PVP & on that stuff I went totally nuts, I was awake 9 days with NO SLEEP & ended up being locked away in a Secure Mental Health Unit for 2 weeks.

Holy shit so Alpha-PVP is basically the insanity drug the news used to speak about that turned people into rabid zombies and shit? Cause MDPV could do that too if I'm not mistaken because it's a bath salt but it lasts way shorter right? So you'd have to be smoking tons of it all day and night to reach that level of insanity. I know MDPV can be super addictive (more so than meth) and also very dangerous if taken in the wrong circumstances but I still feel like ot might be worth trying at least once to kill my curiosity. I think I would try crystal first though as it only makes sense. From what I've heard MDPV is basically if crack and meth had a baby or some shit. I'm a very poly drug kinda guy so I don't really just stick with one substance I use pretty much everything psychoactive to experiment and reach new states of consciousness, but there is a sort of lingering worry in my mind that a drug like MDPV might feel so unbelievably good that no other drug will ever come even close to how good it is. That worries me quite a lot actually. I don't want to ruin the surprise of how different substances feel by jumping to the most powerful and euphoric in one go. That sounds like completely ruining the fun. I wanna experience most drugs out there and enjoy and appreciate them for what they are without the experience being dulled because I tried a much better feeling drug.

 

[fuckabout89]

Holy shit so Alpha-PVP is basically the insanity drug the news used to speak about that turned people into rabid zombies and shit? Cause MDPV could do that too if I'm not mistaken because it's a bath salt but it lasts way shorter right? So you'd have to be smoking tons of it all day and night to reach that level of insanity. I know MDPV can be super addictive (more so than meth) and also very dangerous if taken in the wrong circumstances but I still feel like ot might be worth trying at least once to kill my curiosity. I think I would try crystal first though as it only makes sense. From what I've heard MDPV is basically if crack and meth had a baby or some shit. I'm a very poly drug kinda guy so I don't really just stick with one substance I use pretty much everything psychoactive to experiment and reach new states of consciousness, but there is a sort of lingering worry in my mind that a drug like MDPV might feel so unbelievably good that no other drug will ever come even close to how good it is. That worries me quite a lot actually. I don't want to ruin the surprise of how different substances feel by jumping to the most powerful and euphoric in one go. That sounds like completely ruining the fun. I wanna experience most drugs out there and enjoy and appreciate them for what they are without the experience being dulled because I tried a much better feeling drug.

No it doesn't turn people into zombies but people had wild psychotic breaks like cutting their eyes out and I believed one guy did necrophilia then lit the body on fire and another fucked a goat dressed as women and then chopped its head off those are outliers though. Just don't abuse it and wild shit like that wont happen.

 

[SealSlapper]

No it doesn't turn people into zombies but people had wild psychotic breaks like cutting their eyes out and I believed one guy did necrophilia then lit the body on fire and another fucked a goat dressed as women and then chopped its head off those are outliers though. Just don't abuse it and wild shit like that wont happen.

That some super insane crazy evil shit. I kinda understand why it's illegal tbh...

 

[fuckabout89]

That some super insane crazy evil shit. I kinda understand why it's illegal tbh...

You dont feel pain on it is the thing, I was reading about guy who was selling it and he said they would run off in the forest smoke it and hit themselves with sticks and scream. Its addictive as shit and people would break into his rummaging through his house to get more and Apparently that was end of dealing .

 

[SealSlapper]

You dont feel pain on it is the thing, I was reading about guy who was selling it and he said they would run off in the forest smoke it and hit themselves with sticks and scream. Its addictive as shit and people would break into his rummaging through his house to get more and Apparently that was end of dealing .

Holy shit that sounds scary as fuck. No wonder that shit is illegal. Honestly I rarely ever support laws against drugs but I feel like it's common sense not to want to people dealing this shit out on the street when it makes people crazy like that. Hell it makes even meth sound like a soft almost harmless drug in comparison. I wonder why tf it does that shit.

 

[notsmokeymcpot42088]

yea those people were wild --- I woulndt fck with the mdpv people. Not in like an im scared of them way but they are just completely unpredictable and always liabilities.

I did not like the stuff personally but I dont like stims