Dormicum is one of the most euphoric benzos out there imho
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emkee_reinvented
Bluelighter
Clonazolam rocks, I don't order it anymore.
But Temazepam beats em all even Midazolam nosespray imo
But Temazepam beats em all even Midazolam nosespray imo
Nas47
Road-Weary Traveler
Never felt any euphoria from benzos....it's just anxyolitic...in some case hypnotic...pop your pill&go to bed.Or pop a lot and get nasty drunked feelin'.....some people like it obviously
JTemperance
Bluelight Crew
As long as it exists, midazolam will have a special status within the benzodiazepine class, IMHO, even leaving out its medical uses.
As a sedative-hypnotic, it already belongs to a cherished benzo subgroup and shares in its euphoric potential. Midazolam is also stronger than many of its peers—a single 15mg tablet (taken strictly PO) is roughly equivalent to #2 × 20mg temazepam or #3 × 0.25mg triazolam, putting it among the highest-powered hypnotics.
And, of course, midazolam is one of the few benzos that is actually soluble in water (with an acid to lower pH), which opens up all sorts of possibilities (some of them very dangerous). Different ROAs can enhance the strength dramatically, with an intranasal BA (~75%) that's almost twice as high as the oral BA (~40%).
Flurazepam is one of the hypnotics that I'd really like to try. IIRC, it's used in Ireland & Brazil more regularly than in many other places.
For me, temazepam is definitely enjoyable and a very solid benzo, but I've missed some of the "uniqueness" other report. In light of that, my choice for the ultimate sedative-hypnotic benzo is nitrazepam, since it's an even stronger muscle relaxant and packs a heavy punch (esp.@10mg!) that still feels strongly euphoric, IMHO.
Jabberwocky
Frumious Bandersnatch
Nitrazepam is great indeed. I used to get 20mg/night, I miss those days.
emkee_reinvented
Bluelighter
So how come Temazepam hits within 20 minutes. Purely subjectively.Worth mentioning that Temazepam’s in the “Medium” category absorption-wise and takes several hours (2-3 hours) to reach peak plasma levels; there are no active metabolites.
Diazepam’s, on the other hand, is Rapidly absorbed and reaches peak plasma levels within 1-2 hours and is metabolized into three active metabolites (Temazepam Desmethyldiazepam, & Oxazepam).
This chart is quite useful:
Nas47
Road-Weary Traveler
Nitras or Mogadon is available here.It was good..stronger than diaz.as i remember.5mg tablets only
plumbus-nine
Bluelighter
Anybody else noticed differences in benzo effects after having gotten tolerance to dissociatives? It's a weird phenomenon. Before 2mg lorazepam would knock me out, now 5mg just remove all inhibitions but no sedation at all. And this was around 8-10 months after the last disso use.
Nas47
Road-Weary Traveler
Never used disso...so could not comment.i ain't got some effects of my dayly 20mg diazepam....acostumize
emkee_reinvented
Bluelighter
Over here to, there is a match.
UK-ers are making Nitrazepam sound as the bomb. Like Nimetazepam is in Asia. Overhere Flunitrazepam is highly regarded. All three are nitro's right. I loved Clonazolam when it was available. Also a nitro.
My personal favorite till now, with the limited experience of Flunitrazepam. Temazepam, almost like Alcohol in a pill.
Jabberwocky
Frumious Bandersnatch
The egg’s (gel formulation) do hit faster than capsules - but just because the peak plasma occurs within 2-3 hours doesn’t mean you won’t feel it first.
That said, Temazepam is not a fast acting benzo when taken orally, it’s Medium.
Fun fact: Caffeine takes roughly 45 min to work; I don’t know about you, but I feel more awake after the first few sips and this illustrates how powerful our mind is (placebo).
Nas47
Road-Weary Traveler
Yes...Flunitrazepam(Rohypnol)is really strong.It was available here before ten years.Now isn't imported anymore.Along with GHB(never tried) are so called"date rape drugs),because of dangerous combo with alc.leaving the eventual victims fully uncapacitated and helpless
emkee_reinvented
Bluelighter
If making a comparison Temazepam (medium) or Midazolam (fast acting especially the nose spray)
Temazepam all the way.
Jabberwocky
Frumious Bandersnatch
Such a shame that GHB got this reputation as well, it’s a stigma I do not think is earned (I’m sure there’s instances where it was used to that end though).
GHB is one of the only sleep meds that actually improves sleep architecture if used correctly (in two divided doses for each of the 2 sleep cycles one will experience and wake up from mid-night [re: first dose] and if not used round-the clock.
It only got this title when Flunitrazepam became significantly less available and illegal in some areas, and I think it was a myth/rumor spread by the ignorant.
For the Record: GHB is not the date-rape Drug.
Cool chartHave you tried Triazolam (Halcion)?
Clonazepam though is odd. Granted I've never taken MASSIVE doses of it, most is 2mg at any one time but I don't find it particularly sedative/hypnotic as the chart might suggest. It also appears quite low on physical and psychological anxiety. Strange as some people seem to have a big preference for clonazepam as a nice benzo. Makes sense on the anticonvulsant side of things as I do see it prescribed to epileptic and withdrawing alcoholics quite a lot so that makes sense. People always tell me clonazepam after a coke binge is a lifesaver and seems to be right. But it's a bit dulling for me. Not a benzo I really feel.
The chart just shows to me though diazepam really is the master of all.
Oh and just to add, so would this translate at all to associated seizure risk during WD? So for instance clonazepam has very strong anticonvulsant properties so the seizure risk would likely be higher on discontinuation? However, alprazolam seems much weaker as an anticonvulsant but carries a seizure risk if abused as well. Is this just a case of the dose determening the poison?
Yeah WTF clonazepam makes me absolutely wreck my way through what I have used to call "anxiety".
It has some very obvious effects and some more subtle but radical anyway-effects. When I was starting its regular use I couldn't really decide if I was sober or completely fucked.
Nas47
Road-Weary Traveler
Well...it is.There is enough toxicologic data that confirm this..That's not rumors nor myth.Personally got a friend of mine-victim to this practise(in U.K.)As to his usefulness about sleeping tool i don't know.May be is,may be not.If i had the oportunity to try it i will,but it's never been around here
emkee_reinvented
Bluelighter
No after rereading my comment. It was a Midazolam nosespray. Triazolam I have never tried. Is it even faster then the aforementioned?Have you tried Triazolam (Halcion)?