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Are homosexual natures created by nurture, nature, or God?

ChemicallyEnhanced said:
I was being more simplistic than that lol. Basic concepts. I did that purposely to a) make a point and b) avoid exactly that type of discussion.

As for people disagreeing with me...they're not disagreeing with ME, they are "disagreeing" with facts.
The only people who think homosexuality is caused by anything other than nature are straight people.
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Not wright.I am straight and homosexuality comes from nature.That's how i think.There was probably always exist from the dawn of a mankind till the end of the world.....and I live in the country,in which half of the people hate gays....and almost all hates anyone
 
darvocet21 said:
I wouldn't be too proud. Our guy may be getting senile but yours is a total wanker
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See what I mean.

I discuss your system and you are comparing people.

Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people.

Regards
DL
 
Nas47 said:
Not wright.I am straight and homosexuality comes from nature.That's how i think.There was probably always exist from the dawn of a mankind till the end of the world.....and I live in the country,in which half of the people hate gays....and almost all hates anyone
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I meant the people that think that are all straight, not that all straight people think that :)
 
Gnostic Bishop said:
See what I mean.

I discuss your system and you are comparing people.

Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people.

Regards
DL
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Where's that pea size discussion buddy?

Or was your offer to shrink the discussion down a canard?
 
Gnostic Bishop said:
See what I mean.

I discuss your system and you are comparing people.

Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people.

Regards
DL
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That's because people are the most interesting thing by far in this world. They also make up the smallest minority group of all which is individuals. You would agree the sanctity of your individual mind body & soul is the most important thing? Far more valuable than gold or crypto
 
darvocet21 said:
I know what my dog thinks when I get out the bag of treats.

There was a question I asked regarding the question of evil, is there a citation for your claim that God "takes pleasure in evil"? I'm paraphrasing you...
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@Gnostic Bishop I've asked you twice now to explain your argument about very deep philosophical/ theological ideas. Speaks volumes that you have ignored me twice in order to focus on underhanded put downs.

You've reminded me of the small-mindedness of folks who know a little bit about something and are passionate with their ignorance

(Dis)regards
 
Rev 4;11 Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.

Christians sing that Adam's sin was a happy fault and necessary to God's plan.

I see Christianity here expressing it's natural religion where there is just a bit of evil in a greater good.

Christianity was wise before supernatural belief reared it's lying head.

Now the atheist churches get their chance, if the atheists care enough about their children.

Regards
DL
 
Gnostic Bishop said:
Rev 4;11 Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.

Christians sing that Adam's sin was a happy fault and necessary to God's plan.

I see Christianity here expressing it's natural religion where there is just a bit of evil in a greater good.

Christianity was wise before supernatural belief reared it's lying head.

Now the atheist churches get their chance, if the atheists care enough about their children.

Regards
DL
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on point
 
i actually have homosexual natures but im not gay

like i wanna be gay but i can't

sucks
 
Gnostic Bishop said:
Rev 4;11 Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.

Christians sing that Adam's sin was a happy fault and necessary to God's plan.

I see Christianity here expressing it's natural religion where there is just a bit of evil in a greater good.

Christianity was wise before supernatural belief reared it's lying head.

Now the atheist churches get their chance, if the atheists care enough about their children.

Regards
DL
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Thanks for that quote.
Gnostic Bishop said:
Rev 4;11 Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.

Christians sing that Adam's sin was a happy fault and necessary to God's plan.

I see Christianity here expressing it's natural religion where there is just a bit of evil in a greater good.

Christianity was wise before supernatural belief reared it's lying head.

Now the atheist churches get their chance, if the atheists care enough about their children.

Regards
DL
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Thanks. I haven't read all the way through Revelation, mainly because its symbolism is so hard to understand and subject to all kinds of misinterpretations.


That seems to be straightforward enough that all things would emanate from God, however does God create evil or even take pleasure in it? How did Evil start?

I'm not Catholic but I agree with the notion that there are different levels of sin different severities and all that.

If you feel a call to teach Bluelighters that's fine but there's a sort of patronising smugness in your ministry which winds up pushing people away from Scripture, not to mention reveals spiritual Pride

People who have had let's say psychedelic experiences tend to be more open-minded than the general population. They don't need to be approached with a wagging finger, and a dishonest thread title. Why not simply ask is homosexuality sinful?


Proverbs 16:
1
The reflections of the heart belong to man,
but the answer of the tongue is from the Lord.
2
All a man’s ways seem right to him,
but the Lord evaluates the motives.
3
Commit your activities to the Lord,
and your plans will be achieved.
4
The Lord has prepared everything for His purpose—
even the wicked for the day of disaster.
5
Everyone with a proud heart is detestable to the Lord;
be assured, he will not go unpunished.
6
Wickedness is atoned for by loyalty and faithfulness,
and one turns from evil by the fear of the Lord.
7
When a man’s ways please the Lord,
He makes even his enemies to be at peace with him.
8
Better a little with righteousness
than great income with injustice.


Source: https://bible.knowing-jesus.com/Proverbs/16/type/hcsb
 
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