Russo-Ukrainian War v. World War 3?

[✿Dai₷y✿]

I dunno how a journalist who interviews subjects in war time is a war criminal .

UK militant tells what's going on in Ukraine, truth does hurt yet is the truth.

 

[Jabberwocky]

and denazification

such a convenient word

everyone is a nazi these days

nazi = BAD!!

that's a nice word - is that fairly new or were we denazificating back in the old days too?

we're in the age of the Nazi Renaissance™

 

[alasdairm]

the targets are the general public who regurgitate and proliferate the agendas of the politicians

do you think it's possible that (some) people with whom you disagree are not mindless automatons, ignorantly parroting media-fed opinions but, rather, they're just regular people like you who happen to see things differently?

alasdair

 

[Jabberwocky]

I dunno how a journalist who interviews subjects in war time is a war criminal .

UK militant tells what's going on in Ukraine, truth does hurt yet is the truth.

only an idiot would think the Ukrainians aren't committing war crimes themselves, they're the ones being invaded... they are fighting for their home land... their women are being raped...

"War crimes" is an easily definable term yet also incredibly blurry and obviously difficult to enforce in reality

yes, western media is not reporting Ukrainian war crimes on Russian soldiers, but who really gives a fuck?

Other than pointing out slanted journalism exists, which it has since the invention of the wheel, what do you mean by "the truth hurts"?

Reality is duality

on a side note... this interview seems incredibly forced, almost manufactured... it's very directed and it honestly seems these guys are reading from a script...

the interviewer is very guided, as if he has an objective... (other than determining what he did in the war)

it's very clear that they've already discussed this, and are now filming it, or at gone over a script

dunno

also, this guy is a deserter (says it in the video).... he willingly went to Ukraine to fight and then deserted?? (only an idiot or coward would do such a thing) Then being interviewed by another guy from the UK? Why is he being interviewed? By whom? For what purpose? How did he get back? seems off......... and the interviewer shoving a camera in his face like he's paparazzi, seems manufactured, or at the very least the interviewer WANTS him to say these things, and is eagerly awaiting each question and never surprised.... this guy conveniently goes to fight for Ukraine then deserts and calls them nazis... this video smells of bullshit... or, this guy is just an idiot and confused, possible mental illness, like a mall ninja warrior who went to war and realized he wasn't a badass afterall.

this could be Russian propaganda... unless you can prove me wrong? (ba-dum-tish)

if you actually listen to this guy, he says a lot of weird, nonsensical, idiotic shit in the interview... he is no real mercenary, maybe he pretends to be... he's apologizing for deciding to be a foreign mercenary and go to war........... only a regretful idiot or a coward would do that

did you actually listen to this interview?? it's almost comical

regardless, this video is rife with political opinions, verbally stated... who is interviewing him and for what purpose? This is not a government military interview...

not every piece of media antithetical to mass media is the truth, but even the truth is blurry

 

[Mr. Krinkle]

such a convenient word

everyone is a nazi these days

nazi = BAD!!



we're in the age of the Nazi Renaissance™

Zombi-Nazis

they don't even exist


thats why we should just keep calling them commies

and then the pro-putins say "they're not communist anymore!"

oh now you don't like it


putin is stoic...

yea everybody loves him

get outta here dude

 

[Jabberwocky]

putin is stoic...

yea everybody loves him

get outta here dude

lol, yeah

people voted for Biden and he's obviously well past any retirement age (I mean no disrespect in terms of age, just being real about it)

there should be an age restriction on electoral events, such as 70 years old

even Trump is like 73?

 

[Mr. Krinkle]

oh for sure

i say 70 should absolutely be the cut-off

 

[imo_incolae]

Being a "tough guy" makes Putin a good leader? He treats his population like cattle and controls all the information and media in his country. While the US is ultimately not that different, there is still free journalism here. The right has been led to believe (through propaganda) that it's all controlled by some evil political cabal. In Russia it's illegal to report anything through journalism that goes against what the state says.

Anyways, I find this "All your sources of information are propaganda and not to be trusted" argument seemingly everywhere now. It's really annoying tbh. It's the right's version of wokeness.

Ever wonder if the very opinion you are expressing right now was placed into your own head as weaponized propaganda by politicians? (hint: it was) Fake news™

Propaganda inception.

Yes, social media has changed the political front. That doesn't mean it's sensible to suddenly demerit every single piece of information going around.


lol, covid?

that's called science, not propaganda

but I don't want to go down that rabbit hole

Yeah, portraying an image makes you a good leader, in the eyes of the masses. I didn't invent politics, just commenting on the facts. They don't judge you based on facts and/or history, they judge you based on what image you spin. That's why you see politicians, especially in America, focusing most of their campaigns on PR and trying to portray the archetypical American politician. Biden is a perfect example. He is selling the American dream, just like many others are. One way you relate to people is by assuming a role they believe they can relate to. We all know politics is bullshit. You buy into the promise of what one politician makes, you vote for him/her, it turns out to be bullshit. What did you buy into? The character and the image and the storyline. You buy into the dream they sell you.

Its all about spin. And its all about propaganda. You either understand that or you don't. We live in a fucked up world because most people don't. They buy into the lies and manipulation and think the next ruler will change everything. They buy into the next story of the world coming crashing down and give away more freedoms in order to apparently gain even more, or something? Its an intricate web that is spun to entangle people in. You look one way and because looking that way confirms what you think is true you assume it is true. Then you look another way and looking way again reinforces you and so you assume everything is legitimate.

I never said Putin was a good guy. I'm explaining things from the way people see the world through the lens of politics as they see it. I'm actually pointing out of the absurdity of it all. Its a circus show. What people see is the superficial romantic veneer the MSM and marketing campaigns spin up. They don't see the reality behind it all. They just see the airbrushed version. And for most people that's more than enough, because I think it would ruin most people to learn that the world doesn't actually work the way they think it does and the stories they are told are not actually true.

I'm also not saying ALL sources are bad. I never said that in my post. I'm saying so much of it is. It depends where you get your information from though. You can still find decent information on the big platforms but slowly that's changing, which is why alternative platforms have been popping up endlessly over the past few years to counter the increasing attacks on freedom of speech. Its also why messaging apps like Signal and Telegram have become so popular because of the fact people know they can no longer find refuge on most platforms for open and free communication if it challenges or contradicts a particular political narrative. This is just a fact. A sad fact at that. What most people consume today though is garbage. Its just MSM brain rot but for the digital age and clinically engineered to manipulate human psychology based on big data and big data is based on behavioural manipulation at scale.

I trust that most people get the equivalent of a preschoolers education on the world from their daily sources. Let's be fair though, its never been that far off the case anyway. Legacy media has long since been taken over by private interests and for political gain and purposes. They don't call a newspaper a daily rag for no reason. People have known throughout the generations that most newspapers are not even worthy of wiping their asses with let alone reading about world affairs. Well if that's true consider the dial now turned up to a hundred and with our digital environment firing more stimulus at us, distractions and information than we have ever encountered before - its safe to say its a much more barren place in regards to credible information.

bet you have vlad putin tattooed on your chest Stan

As stated in my previous message I think he puts on an act just like many other politicians. Russians tend to be stoic anyway. Most men have old fashioned values and tend to be very hardy and resilient. The image they give off is one of masculinity and bravado. Putin being Russian is going to be no different. Its a different culture with different values. I still think its an act to cater to a particular character he is playing in order to adhere to a particular story he is selling. Every politician does the same thing. They all have a particular selling point. Obama was the first black president and so he used that to garner support. Trump was the man to drain the swamp and so he used that to garner support. Its all about characters and playing a role for the masses because that's what the masses expect. This is the fairytale that keeps the ship floating. It keeps the people believing

 

[imo_incolae]

do you think it's possible that (some) people with whom you disagree are not mindless automatons, ignorantly parroting media-fed opinions but, rather, they're just regular people like you who happen to see things differently?

alasdair

Your passive aggressive and presumptuous message kind of proves any point I was making. I see you make quite a lot of these on the forum when someone challenges the majority law. This is for you to understand as to why you formulate this stance, not for others to be laden with the weight of your baggage. This isn't a personal duel, its a conversation about politics. By you making it personal you are deviating the conversation away from its most beneficial outcome (free and open debate) and turning it into a polarizing form of tribalism. I see there's a lot of that going around lately and so again, my point is proven by your response. Perhaps you could address that so that we can stay on topic and enable everybody to freely speak their mind, even if it contradicts the majority law.

I think an alarmingly growing percentage of the population possess less critical thinking capacities as well as the ability to independently think and make decisions for themselves. Many people are now overstimulated by tech and distracted by the information that is fired from all angles. World events over the past few years has facilitated this and its been something almost akin to a mass panic attack/nervous breakdown/induced trauma where automatically many people are shutting down and assuming a defensive posture and only letting a very small amount of information in that reinforces their world view in a desperate bid to maintain normality. Normality though is always changing, as we have seen and continue to see. The bar keeps moving and so does the erratic state of peoples sense of reality.

The only grounding people have are the sources they use to get a sense of themselves, others and the world and well, that's social media and all the big tech platforms. And we have known for a very long time before COVID-19 that being trapped in these realities for too long is not good for us. Now we seem to have collective amnesia and have begun to obsess over these realities even more as if they were never toxic for us in the first place. Your mom and pops told you to go out and leave the house and play for a reason. Mine did anyway. There's a reason why mom tells you no more video games and to go for a walk and breath. Mine used to say I would get square eyes if I continued to look at the screen any longer. Well, today that's our world for 99% of the time (for most people anyway). And that's a good thing? I think not. We are now more exposed and more vulnerable to being manipulated and influenced than ever before. Our entire lives are dictated to us by our smartphones and IoT gadgets. These little bits of silicon and plastic rule our lives and we have forgotten what the world was like (many unfortunate now to have never known a world before) before these things ruled over us.

And so, yeah, I think that is contributing MASSIVELY to why people cannot think and act beneficially.

 

[alasdairm]

i do not want to presume which is why i explicitly asked you a question. if you can't or won't answer, that's fine. just say that.

and it's not a little ironic that you defensively accuse me of making it personal when you post comments accusing people of not thinking for themselves, state that they "are conditioned to not challenge and question the mainstream narrative", etc.

further, can you help me understand why you think that people are not able to freely speak their mind? you're speaking freely here. am i not also allowed to do that?

alasdair

 

[Electrum1]

Wonder how many of these weapons the U.S. keeps sending to Ukraine turn up in other parts of Europe within a year or two

 

[imo_incolae]

i do not want to presume which is why i explicitly asked you a question. if you can't or won't answer, that's fine. just say that.

and it's not a little ironic that you defensively accuse me of making it personal when you post comments accusing people of not thinking for themselves, state that they "are conditioned to not challenge and question the mainstream narrative", etc.

further, can you help me understand why you think that people are not able to freely speak their mind? you're speaking freely here. am i not also allowed to do that?

alasdair

Well to begin with, we would actually need to have a conversation and this is not a conversation. This is banging heads together. You may think it is normal but again that would be down to yourself as an adult in ascertaining what a conversation or relationship is with another person. This is a passive aggressive and hostile interaction with somebody you have disdain towards and seek no amicable resolution other than to "expose" them in order to satisfy some sort of warped desire. Whatever disdain you have is entirely a construct in your mind. That is yours to deal with my friend.

Patterns in your message history show a very similar behaviour that tends to be expressed when a particular person you encounter goes against what only I can guess are very rigid and inflexible belief systems you hold. You tend to have a habit of passively aggressively attacking those on this forum that contradict your reality. It seems like you do it disguised as a form of intellectual challenge in order to instigate a debate but judging from your messages, no matter how reasonable a response you receive and no matter how detailed and explanatory the response you receive is, you still resort to attacks against the person in a passive aggressive manner.

If anything, the question then becomes why is it so difficult for you to engage in healthy conversation? Why are you so troubled as to seek to project this onto others? And of course now I am becoming personal and involving your personal life in this conversation. But I guess this is what happens when you throw your toys out of the pram as an adult and expect others to be victim to your juvenile behaviour.

 

[Deleted member 521610]

Russia is 100% planning to fucking nuke ukraine.

US plans to accuse Russia of using nukes in Ukraine – Moscow​

The Russian Defense Ministry says Washington wants to use weapons of mass destruction to frame Moscow

Fucking russian proganda tryna set up their own shit to justify using nukes

 

[Deleted member 521610]

Putin's mouthpiece warns of war 'against Europe and world'

PUTIN'S TV propagandist has warned of Russia waging a war "against Europe and the World" after the invasion of Ukraine, as he said, "Ukrainians no longer enough".

www.express.co.uk

This is world war 3. Fuck we need to start having nuclear drills and building bunkers. Everybody should be investing into food supplies guns and ammos for the mad society that awaits us after the nukes.

 

[Robi]

Putin's mouthpiece warns of war 'against Europe and world'

PUTIN'S TV propagandist has warned of Russia waging a war "against Europe and the World" after the invasion of Ukraine, as he said, "Ukrainians no longer enough".

www.express.co.uk

This is world war 3. Fuck we need to start having nuclear drills and building bunkers. Everybody should be investing into food supplies guns and ammos for the mad society that awaits us after the nukes.

done deal for the last 20 years

 

[Electrum1]

 

[hylite]

Nice to be in the sky again without the necessary sky masks !!

 

[AussieJoe]

Doubt if they would use nukes they got other options.

 

[imo_incolae]

Russia is 100% planning to fucking nuke ukraine.

US plans to accuse Russia of using nukes in Ukraine – Moscow​

The Russian Defense Ministry says Washington wants to use weapons of mass destruction to frame Moscow

Fucking russian proganda tryna set up their own shit to justify using nukes

That's a pretty extreme conclusion to make. Nukes are not toys and even though some of the public might have a naive Hollywood take on nuclear weapons, governments don't. That's why they have never been used.

Could it be possible that both (or all sides) are chucking out propaganda in order to make the other side look bad so they can do what they want to do to them? Nuclear weapons have never been used and probably never will. Mutually agreed destruction is the only way to solve the problem when it gets that far. Nobody wants that and there's no Earth to return to when that happens.

What is concerning is how easily people talk about this subject like its no big deal. Just shows how naive the public are if they are even entertaining nuclear options in the first place. That naivety is dangerous when there are powers that exist that can easily use that naivety for their own agendas.

To me it just sums up how lost people are and how power has been allowed to become so isolated and detached from us. Now its just a distant something we believe keeps things running and we don't need to challenge it or be responsible for our own lives. We can just talk about nukes and the problem goes away. Plays right into the hands of that distant and ever expanding power.

 

[hylite]

Mars was blown with some kind of a blast. It's just a matter of time.