Opioids Fentanyl Megathread and FAQ

[Robi]

And also this is only off of habit of about three blues a day

just curious, as a ex fent user, why 3? you arent obligated to answer, just blows me away folks can take so little and not build tolerance, just one i over dosed one, and other times i was fine off 10, so pls becareful

 

[ovo1024]

just curious, as a ex fent user, why 3? you arent obligated to answer, just blows me away folks can take so little and not build tolerance, just one i over dosed one, and other times i was fine off 10, so pls becaref

just curious, as a ex fent user, why 3? you arent obligated to answer, just blows me away folks can take so little and not build tolerance, just one i over dosed one, and other times i was fine off 10, so pls becareful

Well I say three a day that's basically just enough so I'm not sick because I'm low on funds lately. But I can easily smoke 10-12 blues a day

 

[Robi]

Well I say three a day that's basically just enough so I'm not sick because I'm low on funds lately. But I can easily smoke 10-12 blues a day

way too easy, sometimes at first when i stopped i was glad i didnt have money, i was spending ez 2k a month for a year.....do the math, ugh

 

[ovo1024]

way too easy, sometimes at first when i stopped i was glad i didnt have money, i was spending ez 2k a month for a year.....do the math, ugh

$2,000 a month on blues?! God damn man I know prices Varie depending on your region but either way that's still quite a bit you were doing daily. Though if I had the money I can easily see how your tolerance could get to that level

 

[Robi]

$2,000 a month on blues?! God damn man I know prices Varie depending on your region but either way that's still quite a bit you were doing daily. Though if I had the money I can easily see how your tolerance could get to that level

blues arent cheap here, wont talk pricing but the more i bought the more breaks id get and for the longest time i had a middle man and id kick down 3 or4 for running for me, but yeah, tolerance was high got pretty seasoned and thats when i started Od`ing, best to yah, worst thing that guy did was give me the main plugs number, its all on me but damn, some dealers make it too easy too deliver fent, im use to dealers having power trips and make you wait forever, not fent dealers that were in my life BAM! faster than Dominos

 

[ovo1024]

blues arent cheap here, wont talk pricing but the more i bought the more breaks id get and for the longest time i had a middle man and id kick down 3 or4 for running for me, but yeah, tolerance was high got pretty seasoned and thats when i started Od`ing, best to yah, worst thing that guy did was give me the main plugs number, its all on me but damn, some dealers make it too easy too deliver fent, im use to dealers having power trips and make you wait forever, not fent dealers that were in my life BAM! faster than Dominos

I live in northwestern Arizona, kind of a small town population like 40,000 people and blue's here cost $10 each but in Phoenix for five bucks each and if you buy them in bulk you can get them for three dollars each

 

[ovo1024]

I've been a member on blue light for 10 years now and totally just forgot about the whole pricing rule which is the stupidest thing ever but whatever. I'm not going to edit my post LOL

 

[Robi]

I've been a member on blue light for 10 years now and totally just forgot about the whole pricing rule which is the stupidest thing ever but whatever. I'm not going to edit my post LOL

yeah same around here, i made cash everyday, so id usually pick up 10, get 12, gosh im glad that crap is over

 

[bboyyychik]

Alrighty then...I was a long term user of Fentanyl patches...100mcgrms each....
Take the patch , get a iron , turn on the steam , turn the patch unside down on the face of the iron...hit the steam button and hold for 30 seconds....the gel will peel off with a razor blade...lay it on your tounge and hang on to something....you will get so fucking high...it's 100 times stronger than Morphine...be careful if you don't have a high tolerance...!!!!! It really works great...I'm currently taking methadone....just be careful using this method of ingestion as it can overdose you very easily....

 

[audioengineer]

I don't know if this is still being managed by the OP @Jabberwocky , but it might be worth including bioavailability being ~89% for intranasal/snorting ROA. Just something worth adding if you can.
Info Cited From:
Panagiotou I, Mystakidou K. Intranasal fentanyl: from pharmacokinetics and bioavailability to current treatment applications. Expert Rev Anticancer Ther. 2010 Jul;10(7):1009-21. doi: 10.1586/era.10.77. PMID: 20645689.

 

[astrolopitecu]

Hi everybody, I got a couple of questions about this substance. For the last four months I been using approximately 20 to 40 mg of morphine IV. My habit is get the dope once every two weeks and stay the first week high as fuck and the upcoming week I go easy. So I have built some tolerance. Today my dealer move to another town and he left me 2 vials of Fentanyl as a present. I tried 150mcg and it's work perfectly fine. My doubt is how much can I shoot in 24hs? Can I get an overdose if I shoot 100mcg with 3 hours of separation between doses?

 

[slightly dazed]

What is Fentanyl?

Is commonly used to treat Cancer patients and chronic breakthrough pain as well as pre-procedure in a hospital setting, Fentanyl is a synthetic primary μ-opioid. It’s approximately 100 times more potent than morphine; 100 micrograms of fentanyl is approx. equivalent to 10mg of morphine in analgesic activity.


Bio-Availability of Fentanyl
Fentanyl's half life averages between 3-12 hours

IV - 100%
Transdermal - ~92%
Buccal/transmucosal - 50%
Smoking - ? (it's efficient but wasteful)

info on buccal fentanyl from this article




Popular brands of Fentanyl include Actiq, Durogesic, Duragesic, Fentora, Onsolis, Sublimaze and Instanyl. Generics of the transdermal patches include Mylan, Watson and Sandoz.

Fentanyl was first synthesized by Dr. Paul Janssen in 1960 following the medical inception of meperidine several years earlier. Janssen developed fentanyl by assaying analogues of the structurally-related drug meperidine for its opioid activity. The widespread use of fentanyl triggered the production of fentanyl citrate (fentanyl combined with citrate at a 1:1 ratio), which entered the clinical practice as a general anaesthetic under the trade name Sublimaze in the 1960s. Following this, many other fentanyl analogs were developed and introduced into the medical practice, including Sufentanil, Alfentanil, Remifentanil, and Lofentanil.

In the mid 1990s, fentanyl saw its first widespread palliative use with the clinical introduction of the Duragesic patch, followed in the next decade by the introduction of the first quick-acting prescription formations of fentanyl for personal use, the Actiq lollipop and Fentora buccal tablets. Through the delivery method of transdermal patches, fentanyl is currently the most widely used synthetic opioid in clinical practice, with several new delivery methods currently in development. Fentanyl is classified as a Schedule II drug in the United States due to its potential for abuse.[1]


What’s a normal Dose?

In regards to Pain Management and Polymer Matrix Transdermal Patches, Fentanyl should not be applied to a patient unless having been on an opiate schedule that is equivalent to 14 days use at 60mg of oral morphine per day, which is equivalent to 40mg of oxy - check this converter. The patient is started out on the lowest dose patch, 12mcg/hr, titrating up every 24 hours until stable. Long term patients are generally safe to begin on 25mcg patches.

For “fun” Fentanyl should be approached with great caution, especially to the opiate naïve who wish to indulge – this applies to all methods of administration; transdermal, smoking, IVing, bucally. I will spare the whole “you shouldn’t be fucking with fentanyl” because in the end it is up to the user in the end. The warnings are out there. But I’m just going to declare I wouldn’t advise anyone with a tolerance that is less than, say around, 120mg oral oxy, single dose, to be using this drug any other way than it is intended.

Using the 120mg oral oxy tolerance as a guide, here are my recommendations for dosing for transdermal and buccal Fentanyl. Remember I’m talking the Polymer Matrix ones here, not the Gels or lollypops as I have no experience with them. If someone can give me some reliable information for an IV and smoking dose I’ll add them in as well.

• Buccal – Start off with cutting the equivalent to 6mcg/hr, so ½ of a 12mcg patch. Place it up against your cheek, avoiding swallowing your saliva, lightly sucking in your cheeks in to apply pressure to it. Make sure it’s the actual sticky adhesive part against your cheek, that’s where the drug is stored after all.
  
  The buccal route has a much faster absorption rate than transdermal, so expect the initial effects to be present around the 15-20min mark, peaking around 60-90mins. If you start to feel uneasy or overwhelmed at any point in time, take the patch out immediately.
  
  
• Transdermal – Before you go applying anything make sure you have a good 24 hours set aside for when you do this because the patch takes around 12 hours to reach peak levels. Apply 12mcg/hr to your upper body, preferably on the upper bicep, chest area or on your shoulders. The closer to your heart the better as there’s less blood flow on your extremities. Increase your dose up according to how you feel, adding no more than 12mcg/hr at a time.
  
  It’s difficult to gauge a good transdermal dose to begin with because of the time it takes for the Fentanyl to reach its full effects, but this doesn’t mean go crazy and think you can handle 50mcg/hr straight up. Be patient and titrate up accordingly. You may “waste” a few patches initially but your life is priceless.

Length of Effects

IV - ~1 hour
Buccal - ~2 - 4 hours of the full effects until is starts to dissipate
Smoking - ~30min - an hour
Transdermal -72 hours

Fentanyl Threads of Interest
Is Fentanyl Safe for a Non-Tolerant user?
Fentanyl Dosage Converter
Fentanyl Generics
Extracting Fentanyl from Polymer Matrix Patches
How long does Buccal Fentanyl last?
About to go through Fentanyl Withdrawal - tips
How to PLUG FENTANYL


feel free to throw out corrections. also ideas as to what should be added would be great as well. thought i would get this out there at least so we can start compiling everything in here and come up with a good end product

So I may have came across around 25 patches of 2 strengths and when studying said sealed packets they are at least 10 years old but still hermetically sealed just as a matter of enquiry, does time effect the drug do the patches have a "use by date" for research purposes and genuine interest only . Thanks