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Joey

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It’s okay to be gay. The whole spectrum called (in Canada) LGBTQ2S+ is a perfectly fine way to be. I have identified as a gay male for a large part of my life. I knew this to be a fact for sure by my early teenage years, and I was terrified to come out publically until I was 20. Very few knew about my sexuality before then. As I got older, by a series of pivotal points - I had developed the bravery to come out. And I did.

I was fully out as gay by 26. Sagaciously, my family and friends treated me without any spite or hateful attitudes. I have been accepted by my family and friends. My parents being the most important to the process.

I wasn’t too worried about my mom, but I was worried about telling my dad about it. He made some pretty homophobic comments at various points when I was a kid growing up, and toward me as well.

I remember once when I was 13, my dad and I were building a miniramp in our back yard where we lived in Meaford, ON. I was really into skateboarding at the time.,to the point that I would tout the slogans like “Skateboarding is not a crime.” as I was in communities online like skateboardcity.com and I’d once fundraised to repair and improve the Meaford Skatepark.

My dad surprised me one day after taking me to a skate park in Kitchener. He said he wanted us to build a “half pipe” meaning a mini ramp (half pipes are generally huge and go full vertical) for our yard. I went to visit my mom in Ayr for the weekend, and he went to Knights Building Supplies in Meaford to buy the materials. He designed the blueprint, cut the pieces to size, and we started the frame. Once it was finished to a point that I could just follow instructions and assemble it myself I did - sometimes with friends.

Me and my friend Curtis were working on building this mini ramp together. When my dad came out to check on things at some point, he asked me out of the blue, “Are you homosexual?”

I said no.

“Are you homoflexible?”

I said no.

“Well, good! If you were - I’d be worried!”

There were some other things said that were pretty stupid like that, but I didn’t tell my dad I was gay until I was 26 based on this memory alone. I thought that was the end of it for a long time. But I’ve always had a feeling of being displaced to some core level. I didn’t really have a word or concept to put to this for a long time.. I didn’t really care much for the gender identity that I was set by, but that’s not really the issue. I just don’t feel like much of anything on this level.

Transgendered is something I understand, but that’s not in my ego or ID to label myself on. I’ve had dreams of being a woman in the past, but whatever right?I’ve always been a particularly sensitive person, and make friends easily with girls. But.. so? Someone who I was really close friends with one New Year’s Eve asked me if I felt I am a woman in a man’s body, Well.. no.

The answer is a definite no. As a matter of fact, I’ve identified as recently as last fall (in 2021) as being squarely male and proud of it, verbatim in my own words! I have read this off of a fairly recently post I wrote on bluelight.org. But that’s so contradictory and off the mark.

Bluelight is a safe space on the internet for posting on harm reduction for drug use, and a research portal which has contributed to contemporary research in drugs, drug use, people who use drugs, and anything related in all manner of fields. In extension, it has made ripples in drug policy all over the world since Monica Barrett joined Bluelight as the director of its research portal in 2003.

Bluelight had been in operation since 1997. First as part of another site called the MDMA Clearinghouse., Then it split off and became bluelight.ru in 1999, then following up to become bluelight.org in 2015.

I was their social media and communications manager for awhile last year. I’ve been through a lot there, and it’s been a huge part of my personal and professional development since 2020 and the COVID-19 pandemic began. I’ve been heavy into my addictions and my mental health has had better options in stock before this mess began. My own, and the world at large.

The point is, I’ve said a lot of things on Bluelight that are off the mark. It’s a place where I go to vent, to divulge my thoughts and days, to hang out and have a laugh.. or weep while I write out my deepest darkest to a fellow group of (mostly) drug users from all over the world. It’s been a beautiful outlet for me where I’ve found support and validation to my life and it’s very direction in so many ways. But I’m going to redact that post where I’m a proud man. I’m actually having a tough time on that one!

Really. I’m having a really hard time describing how I really feel on the issue. Like many things, over the years and even into the present I can have conflicting feelings which give way to conflicting statements. I think this is normal for most people on their issues, to agendas in life. I do know how I identify though.

Up until the start of 2021, I wasn’t even aware that there are people who identify as genderqueer. People who often use the pronouns ‘they’ and ‘them’ as their identifiers. Amongst others, through my counselor Tim McConnell at Pieces to Pathways in Toronto. Pieces to Pathways is a LGBTQ2S+ youth counseling agency who are in favor of harm reduction as well as abstinence in their addictions counseling.

I am no longer a client of Tims or Pieces to Pathways because I’m past the age range they cover from 16-29 - but it was a wonderful experience, I miss Tim quite a bit.. a lot more than I ever thought I would miss a counseler. Tim would call me each week (or so) but I’m generally so fried (like ALL the time) I would sleep through my phone ringing! Either that, or I’d flat out forget I had an appointment. I missed more than I wished to, and I miss Tim now. I learned so much from this person.

Because of my experiences here and through a lot of deep thought and realization, I realized in October of 2021 that I identify as genderqueer. I am going through anorher process of coming out at the age of 30. This one has been rougher. A lot harder.

I am also changing my name to Joey. It’s a sentimental name to me. Someone who was really important to me who I loved dearly used to call me that. Because I ‘need to be taken care of’. It was a kind, sweet name for him to give me, and I miss him too. So as I’ve decided to change my gender identity, I’ve decided to take on this name too. For good.

It’s been a tough life. I am resilient though and I will manage. I’m still navigating how I want to bring forth my identity into my renewed life. The disrespect I have got from some, since I’ve labelled myself as genderqueer is very real though. That hurts intensely.

The entire spectrum of LGBTQ2S+ needs something from the rest of you. That is to be given a recognition that’s as inclusive to you as any subject in education is known to be. We are actually here, maybe we could get used to it if we were known and spoken well of.

There needs to be a foundation of knowledge to breeding wisdom in any subject as life is - and we are all its subjects. To feel secure in our societies by treating each other with respect. Being treated so might make someone’s day. And not the last one left in hurt. The suicide rate is still sky high here.

What underlies a person’s basic identity should be a simple thing. Things like using someone’s proper pronouns and a name is to be recognized as human beings proud of who we are as a rule we all can stand by. Not a proclamation against whoever’s against our very existence. The most crucial and basic actions that can take someone to feel secure in their own head is to be able to identify themselves without contradiction.

Can you imagine being only rarely, or never called your own name and gender? By the people you love and need the most - who truly need you too in return, but they’re too absorbed in their hot button gender identity politics to respect that? To respect you! Or themselves?

It hurts.

-Joey
Genderqueer
Pronouns He/Him
 
It’s okay to be gay. The whole spectrum called (in Canada) LGBTQ2S+ is a perfectly fine way to be. I have identified as a gay male for a large part of my life. I knew this to be a fact for sure by my early teenage years, and I was terrified to come out publically until I was 20. Very few knew about my sexuality before then. As I got older, by a series of pivotal points - I had developed the bravery to come out. And I did.

I was fully out as gay by 26. Sagaciously, my family and friends treated me without any spite or hateful attitudes. I have been accepted by my family and friends. My parents being the most important to the process.

I wasn’t too worried about my mom, but I was worried about telling my dad about it. He made some pretty homophobic comments at various points when I was a kid growing up, and toward me as well.

I remember once when I was 13, my dad and I were building a miniramp in our back yard where we lived in Meaford, ON. I was really into skateboarding at the time.,to the point that I would tout the slogans like “Skateboarding is not a crime.” as I was in communities online like skateboardcity.com and I’d once fundraised to repair and improve the Meaford Skatepark.

My dad surprised me one day after taking me to a skate park in Kitchener. He said he wanted us to build a “half pipe” meaning a mini ramp (half pipes are generally huge and go full vertical) for our yard. I went to visit my mom in Ayr for the weekend, and he went to Knights Building Supplies in Meaford to buy the materials. He designed the blueprint, cut the pieces to size, and we started the frame. Once it was finished to a point that I could just follow instructions and assemble it myself I did - sometimes with friends.

Me and my friend Curtis were working on building this mini ramp together. When my dad came out to check on things at some point, he asked me out of the blue, “Are you homosexual?”

I said no.

“Are you homoflexible?”

I said no.

“Well, good! If you were - I’d be worried!”

There were some other things said that were pretty stupid like that, but I didn’t tell my dad I was gay until I was 26 based on this memory alone. I thought that was the end of it for a long time. But I’ve always had a feeling of being displaced to some core level. I didn’t really have a word or concept to put to this for a long time.. I didn’t really care much for the gender identity that I was set by, but that’s not really the issue. I just don’t feel like much of anything on this level.

Transgendered is something I understand, but that’s not in my ego or ID to label myself on. I’ve had dreams of being a woman in the past, but whatever right?I’ve always been a particularly sensitive person, and make friends easily with girls. But.. so? Someone who I was really close friends with one New Year’s Eve asked me if I felt I am a woman in a man’s body, Well.. no.

The answer is a definite no. As a matter of fact, I’ve identified as recently as last fall (in 2021) as being squarely male and proud of it, verbatim in my own words! I have read this off of a fairly recently post I wrote on bluelight.org. But that’s so contradictory and off the mark.

Bluelight is a safe space on the internet for posting on harm reduction for drug use, and a research portal which has contributed to contemporary research in drugs, drug use, people who use drugs, and anything related in all manner of fields. In extension, it has made ripples in drug policy all over the world since Monica Barrett joined Bluelight as the director of its research portal in 2003.

Bluelight had been in operation since 1997. First as part of another site called the MDMA Clearinghouse., Then it split off and became bluelight.ru in 1999, then following up to become bluelight.org in 2015.

I was their social media and communications manager for awhile last year. I’ve been through a lot there, and it’s been a huge part of my personal and professional development since 2020 and the COVID-19 pandemic began. I’ve been heavy into my addictions and my mental health has had better options in stock before this mess began. My own, and the world at large.

The point is, I’ve said a lot of things on Bluelight that are off the mark. It’s a place where I go to vent, to divulge my thoughts and days, to hang out and have a laugh.. or weep while I write out my deepest darkest to a fellow group of (mostly) drug users from all over the world. It’s been a beautiful outlet for me where I’ve found support and validation to my life and it’s very direction in so many ways. But I’m going to redact that post where I’m a proud man. I’m actually having a tough time on that one!

Really. I’m having a really hard time describing how I really feel on the issue. Like many things, over the years and even into the present I can have conflicting feelings which give way to conflicting statements. I think this is normal for most people on their issues, to agendas in life. I do know how I identify though.

Up until the start of 2021, I wasn’t even aware that there are people who identify as genderqueer. People who often use the pronouns ‘they’ and ‘them’ as their identifiers. Amongst others, through my counselor Tim McConnell at Pieces to Pathways in Toronto. Pieces to Pathways is a LGBTQ2S+ youth counseling agency who are in favor of harm reduction as well as abstinence in their addictions counseling.

I am no longer a client of Tims or Pieces to Pathways because I’m past the age range they cover from 16-29 - but it was a wonderful experience, I miss Tim quite a bit.. a lot more than I ever thought I would miss a counseler. Tim would call me each week (or so) but I’m generally so fried (like ALL the time) I would sleep through my phone ringing! Either that, or I’d flat out forget I had an appointment. I missed more than I wished to, and I miss Tim now. I learned so much from this person.

Because of my experiences here and through a lot of deep thought and realization, I realized in October of 2021 that I identify as genderqueer. I am going through anorher process of coming out at the age of 30. This one has been rougher. A lot harder.

I am also changing my name to Joey. It’s a sentimental name to me. Someone who was really important to me who I loved dearly used to call me that. Because I ‘need to be taken care of’. It was a kind, sweet name for him to give me, and I miss him too. So as I’ve decided to change my gender identity, I’ve decided to take on this name too. For good.

It’s been a tough life. I am resilient though and I will manage. I’m still navigating how I want to bring forth my identity into my renewed life. The disrespect I have got from some, since I’ve labelled myself as genderqueer is very real though. That hurts intensely.

The entire spectrum of LGBTQ2S+ needs something from the rest of you. That is to be given a recognition that’s as inclusive to you as any subject in education is known to be. We are actually here, maybe we could get used to it if we were known and spoken well of.

There needs to be a foundation of knowledge to breeding wisdom in any subject as life is - and we are all its subjects. To feel secure in our societies by treating each other with respect. Being treated so might make someone’s day. And not the last one left in hurt. The suicide rate is still sky high here.

What underlies a person’s basic identity should be a simple thing. Things like using someone’s proper pronouns and a name is to be recognized as human beings proud of who we are as a rule we all can stand by. Not a proclamation against whoever’s against our very existene. The most crucial and basic actions that can take someone to feel secure in their own head is to be able to identify themselves without contradiction.

Can you imagine being only rarely, or never called your own name and gender? By the people you love and need the most - who truly need you too in return, but they’re too absorbed in their hot button gender identity politics to respect that? To respect you! Or themselves?

It hurts.

-Joey
Genderqueer
Pronouns He/Him
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I always wanted to hope that everyone could always be accepted for who they are.

But thank you for your honesty. This really put things into perspective and is a very quite nice and much needed awareness.

You are very gifted, Alex, in so many of the things you do so well. <3

Very awesome in support and also advocacy in addition to all.

Awesome.
 
It’s okay to be gay. The whole spectrum called (in Canada) LGBTQ2S+ is a perfectly fine way to be. I have identified as a gay male for a large part of my life. I knew this to be a fact for sure by my early teenage years, and I was terrified to come out publically until I was 20. Very few knew about my sexuality before then. As I got older, by a series of pivotal points - I had developed the bravery to come out. And I did.

I was fully out as gay by 26. Sagaciously, my family and friends treated me without any spite or hateful attitudes. I have been accepted by my family and friends. My parents being the most important to the process.

I wasn’t too worried about my mom, but I was worried about telling my dad about it. He made some pretty homophobic comments at various points when I was a kid growing up, and toward me as well.

I remember once when I was 13, my dad and I were building a miniramp in our back yard where we lived in Meaford, ON. I was really into skateboarding at the time.,to the point that I would tout the slogans like “Skateboarding is not a crime.” as I was in communities online like skateboardcity.com and I’d once fundraised to repair and improve the Meaford Skatepark.

My dad surprised me one day after taking me to a skate park in Kitchener. He said he wanted us to build a “half pipe” meaning a mini ramp (half pipes are generally huge and go full vertical) for our yard. I went to visit my mom in Ayr for the weekend, and he went to Knights Building Supplies in Meaford to buy the materials. He designed the blueprint, cut the pieces to size, and we started the frame. Once it was finished to a point that I could just follow instructions and assemble it myself I did - sometimes with friends.

Me and my friend Curtis were working on building this mini ramp together. When my dad came out to check on things at some point, he asked me out of the blue, “Are you homosexual?”

I said no.

“Are you homoflexible?”

I said no.

“Well, good! If you were - I’d be worried!”

There were some other things said that were pretty stupid like that, but I didn’t tell my dad I was gay until I was 26 based on this memory alone. I thought that was the end of it for a long time. But I’ve always had a feeling of being displaced to some core level. I didn’t really have a word or concept to put to this for a long time.. I didn’t really care much for the gender identity that I was set by, but that’s not really the issue. I just don’t feel like much of anything on this level.

Transgendered is something I understand, but that’s not in my ego or ID to label myself on. I’ve had dreams of being a woman in the past, but whatever right?I’ve always been a particularly sensitive person, and make friends easily with girls. But.. so? Someone who I was really close friends with one New Year’s Eve asked me if I felt I am a woman in a man’s body, Well.. no.

The answer is a definite no. As a matter of fact, I’ve identified as recently as last fall (in 2021) as being squarely male and proud of it, verbatim in my own words! I have read this off of a fairly recently post I wrote on bluelight.org. But that’s so contradictory and off the mark.

Bluelight is a safe space on the internet for posting on harm reduction for drug use, and a research portal which has contributed to contemporary research in drugs, drug use, people who use drugs, and anything related in all manner of fields. In extension, it has made ripples in drug policy all over the world since Monica Barrett joined Bluelight as the director of its research portal in 2003.

Bluelight had been in operation since 1997. First as part of another site called the MDMA Clearinghouse., Then it split off and became bluelight.ru in 1999, then following up to become bluelight.org in 2015.

I was their social media and communications manager for awhile last year. I’ve been through a lot there, and it’s been a huge part of my personal and professional development since 2020 and the COVID-19 pandemic began. I’ve been heavy into my addictions and my mental health has had better options in stock before this mess began. My own, and the world at large.

The point is, I’ve said a lot of things on Bluelight that are off the mark. It’s a place where I go to vent, to divulge my thoughts and days, to hang out and have a laugh.. or weep while I write out my deepest darkest to a fellow group of (mostly) drug users from all over the world. It’s been a beautiful outlet for me where I’ve found support and validation to my life and it’s very direction in so many ways. But I’m going to redact that post where I’m a proud man. I’m actually having a tough time on that one!

Really. I’m having a really hard time describing how I really feel on the issue. Like many things, over the years and even into the present I can have conflicting feelings which give way to conflicting statements. I think this is normal for most people on their issues, to agendas in life. I do know how I identify though.

Up until the start of 2021, I wasn’t even aware that there are people who identify as genderqueer. People who often use the pronouns ‘they’ and ‘them’ as their identifiers. Amongst others, through my counselor Tim McConnell at Pieces to Pathways in Toronto. Pieces to Pathways is a LGBTQ2S+ youth counseling agency who are in favor of harm reduction as well as abstinence in their addictions counseling.

I am no longer a client of Tims or Pieces to Pathways because I’m past the age range they cover from 16-29 - but it was a wonderful experience, I miss Tim quite a bit.. a lot more than I ever thought I would miss a counseler. Tim would call me each week (or so) but I’m generally so fried (like ALL the time) I would sleep through my phone ringing! Either that, or I’d flat out forget I had an appointment. I missed more than I wished to, and I miss Tim now. I learned so much from this person.

Because of my experiences here and through a lot of deep thought and realization, I realized in October of 2021 that I identify as genderqueer. I am going through anorher process of coming out at the age of 30. This one has been rougher. A lot harder.

I am also changing my name to Joey. It’s a sentimental name to me. Someone who was really important to me who I loved dearly used to call me that. Because I ‘need to be taken care of’. It was a kind, sweet name for him to give me, and I miss him too. So as I’ve decided to change my gender identity, I’ve decided to take on this name too. For good.

It’s been a tough life. I am resilient though and I will manage. I’m still navigating how I want to bring forth my identity into my renewed life. The disrespect I have got from some, since I’ve labelled myself as genderqueer is very real though. That hurts intensely.

The entire spectrum of LGBTQ2S+ needs something from the rest of you. That is to be given a recognition that’s as inclusive to you as any subject in education is known to be. We are actually here, maybe we could get used to it if we were known and spoken well of.

There needs to be a foundation of knowledge to breeding wisdom in any subject as life is - and we are all its subjects. To feel secure in our societies by treating each other with respect. Being treated so might make someone’s day. And not the last one left in hurt. The suicide rate is still sky high here.

What underlies a person’s basic identity should be a simple thing. Things like using someone’s proper pronouns and a name is to be recognized as human beings proud of who we are as a rule we all can stand by. Not a proclamation against whoever’s against our very existence. The most crucial and basic actions that can take someone to feel secure in their own head is to be able to identify themselves without contradiction.

Can you imagine being only rarely, or never called your own name and gender? By the people you love and need the most - who truly need you too in return, but they’re too absorbed in their hot button gender identity politics to respect that? To respect you! Or themselves?

It hurts.

-Joey
Genderqueer
Pronouns He/Him
Wtf d'ya mean, 'never being called your own name and gender'??

I thought your name was Alex (nice name btw 😁), and I reckon people would call you that, right -?

Also you're clearly a male, and you don't say anywhere that you feel female and would rather be a woman. So how tf would people have not called you by your correct gender?

'Genderqueer', whatever that's even supposed to mean, isn't some seperate gender. Humans have only 2 basic genders, or rather basic sexes, which are male and female. Ok this leaves aside people with a physical intersex condition like myself, but we're not a 'third sex', we're the result of aberrant development during gestation and merely the exemption that proves the rule.

So I presume you mean, since you're NOT claiming to be a transsex female and you still go by a male name, that you're more comfortable behaving / presenting in a less than stereotypically masculine way. If that's the case you're simply GNC (gender non-conforming). What they used to call a sissy boy. Or maybe you feel a bit more neutral in your identity rather than 100% 'man'. Guess what, that goes for plenty of people. Not being a walking 50s caricature doesn't make anyone not a real man or woman. It's not uncommon and there's nothing wrong with that. But I don't see WHAT exactly you're supposed to be 'coming out' as; apart from just being a man with a less than conventional gender expression. Why complicate shit. Was being just a gay guy not spicy or unique enough or what.
.... I don't get what you're on about.

PS and before you think I'm being harsh or dismissive, this is me talking as an XY male who was raised as a female on the advice of some poorly informed health officials, who was very much called by a wrong name and referred to as the wrong sex for years QUITE LITERALLY. And in my opinion whatever experience it is you're having does not equate to one like mine.
 
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I always wanted to hope that everyone could always be accepted for who they are.

But thank you for your honesty. This really put things into perspective and is a very quite nice and much needed awareness.

You are very gifted, Alex, in so many of the things you do so well. <3

Very awesome in support and also advocacy in addition to all.

Awesome.
Thank you. I’m glad that I get the support I get here at Bluelight. This site honestly has changed my life and has made me a lot more capable of being the person who I am, for the better.

Love you guys.
 
@nomorebenzos

That’s from try en do rat selfie thread around summer 2020. I was drinking almost a case a day for awhile then.

I have my phases. Case a day or a bottle of fireball, 40oz. And meth.
 
@nomorebenzos

That’s from try en do rat selfie thread around summer 2020. I was drinking almost a case a day for awhile then.

I have my phases. Case a day or a bottle of fireball, 40oz. And meth.
Did you ever get withdrawal after a period of heavy drinking?
 
Did you ever get withdrawal after a period of heavy drinking?
Yeah. My first time in detox I was coming off of booze, and meth. That was in 2011 - I was 20 years old. I stayed off of the meth after that (this was only my third time using meth at that time) til 2016 for the most part, but the booze? I was in detox constantly for quite awhile. I still have my bouts of pretty severe alcoholism.

I started experiencing alcohol withdrawals when I was about 19 more seriously than just a hangover. By the time I was 20, same year again in 2011 I started getting full blown DTs either alone at home or in this one detox I was in over and over again for the period. I did two treatment programs in a row this year, which I passed the first dishonestly because I was drinking on the weekends.

Then I flunked out my second weekend pass at the next. There was no point TV in staying. I went and grabbed my stuff and told the guys later on at an AA meeting what I’d been up to with my drinking.

I’ve been through some rough shot with alcohol, yeah. I still have my days and months.
 
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