Hi, long-time lurker, first time-poster.
Intro: I got into the RC scene in approximately '99, and explored a decent variety of the RC phenethylamines & tryptamines: amt, dpt (my favorite at the time; too bad it's scheduled where I live now), 5-meo-dmt, 5-meo-dipt, dipt, 2-ct-2, 2-ct-7, etc. I got married, started a family, kicked off a decent career, etc, and just recently I realized I hadn't taken a single psychedelic in over 14 years!
After spending nearly a month doing some careful research on RC compounds & sources, I finally found a reputable source and procured some 4-ho-met. Last weekend, my wife and I took an intro dose of 10mg (for me) & 7 mg (for her). We both had an amazing time; very enjoyable, with some strong empathic connection, lots of laughs, some decent CEV's (and hints of OEVs) and some quite surprising sexy-time effects (was not expecting this, but was pleasantly surprised). The only downside is that we both experienced several waves of unpleasant body-load. In particular, some muscle-spasms, tremors (similar to a shiver, but more pronounced), and finally some painful leg cramps.
Question: Has anyone else experienced this with 4-ho-met, or other 4-subs (I've read a couple reports of this sort of body-load, but only in passing), and if so, does anyone have any advice on how to prevent it? We'd like to go for a slightly heavier dose next time, but only if we can control or suppress this body-load. We are both fairly athletic and had both finished a workout earlier in the day, which I suspect may have triggered or exacerbated these symptoms. Any thoughts there? BTW, I have read that magnesium supplementation can help with spasms/cramps but I don't tolerate magnesium citrate well at all. Paradoxically, even 0.5g makes me feel wired and keeps me awake nearly all night, even when taken in the morning.
Intro: I got into the RC scene in approximately '99, and explored a decent variety of the RC phenethylamines & tryptamines: amt, dpt (my favorite at the time; too bad it's scheduled where I live now), 5-meo-dmt, 5-meo-dipt, dipt, 2-ct-2, 2-ct-7, etc. I got married, started a family, kicked off a decent career, etc, and just recently I realized I hadn't taken a single psychedelic in over 14 years!
After spending nearly a month doing some careful research on RC compounds & sources, I finally found a reputable source and procured some 4-ho-met. Last weekend, my wife and I took an intro dose of 10mg (for me) & 7 mg (for her). We both had an amazing time; very enjoyable, with some strong empathic connection, lots of laughs, some decent CEV's (and hints of OEVs) and some quite surprising sexy-time effects (was not expecting this, but was pleasantly surprised). The only downside is that we both experienced several waves of unpleasant body-load. In particular, some muscle-spasms, tremors (similar to a shiver, but more pronounced), and finally some painful leg cramps.
Question: Has anyone else experienced this with 4-ho-met, or other 4-subs (I've read a couple reports of this sort of body-load, but only in passing), and if so, does anyone have any advice on how to prevent it? We'd like to go for a slightly heavier dose next time, but only if we can control or suppress this body-load. We are both fairly athletic and had both finished a workout earlier in the day, which I suspect may have triggered or exacerbated these symptoms. Any thoughts there? BTW, I have read that magnesium supplementation can help with spasms/cramps but I don't tolerate magnesium citrate well at all. Paradoxically, even 0.5g makes me feel wired and keeps me awake nearly all night, even when taken in the morning.