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Oldman Liver

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Hi, airbuddy, long time lurker here. Sorry to be so long winded and rambly, thats just how I am bein an old codger and what not. But I really enjoy reading all the comments and reports on BL, so I thought I might enjoy being more active and chiming in now and then. I'm kind of getting old and I have haven't taken psychedelics, which is my interest in drugs, for a looong time. When I was wee whispersnapper in California back in the 70's and 80's I took my lickins from rough trips, mean authority figures, unsupportive siblings and parents and came out not regreting any of it. Its just the wages of psychedelic sin in old MR. McGeever's land of the American Drug war, I suppose. Just acid and shrooms and good weed for me mostly back then. I did get a then very rare chance to smoke DMT back in the day which I took. Not sure it was actually DMT tho. The substance was dull waxy whitish-grey or beige as I recall, not the gorgeous orange crystals I see in all them fancy magazines. The trip was definitely psychedelic and very short, a ten minute experience of meeting an entity that looked like a Victorian doll who was utterly terrified to see that i could see her and she climbed up the walls in my living room disappeared through the cieling which had turned into her mother's glass skirt through which i could see all the stars and constellations even though it was about 4 pm and completely daytime outside. But all of that was superimposed on normal "reality" not the kind of thing I have heard DMT is, where you completely leave this realm. Perhaps the dose was too small or it was some other tryptamine. MDMA came my way the month it was made illegal and I had a great evening on the couch with a girlfriend. A vision appeared of this guy in a blue suit playing a saxophone. I have never heard of MDMA being visionary, but it was for me that one night. 6 months later I went to an Ornette Coleman gig in San Francisco at Wolfgang's and I was absolutely dumbfounded: that MDMA vision was of Ornette at Wolfgang's, he was wearing the exact same blue suit as the vision and striking the same kind of moves as he played through the two sets they did. Not sure what the prupose of having been presented the preminition by goood golly Miss Molly was, but it was a mind blowingly good Ornette date, and among the greatest live music I have ever heard and i was not on anything either. Ornette had been playing with his band Prime Time for quite a few years and they were just locked in as one organism and the cubistic controlled chaotic funk they churned out was psychedelic as hell. I have never found a record by Ornette or heard him and his band play that well since. Ornette did pass away about 7 years ago, so I suppose that makes it a tall order to out do that show at this point. But the girlfriend dumped me about 5 days after we took X together and she was nice enough to give me the rest of her stash and told me to go take it with a friend of hers who was interested in me and see what develops. Very bad idea but I was totally into this chick completely crestfallen to get dumped after a great MDMA experience with her and did as she suggested. I actually sat arguing with this chick half the night, she really bugged me, probably a first an angry MDMA trip. But both times I took MDMA I had pretty strong hangovers, really bleak depression for a few days that made that drug not one I decided I liked. PCP was rampant in Los Angeles back then too and I had some very bizarre experiences a few times after taking a few hits off of joints passed to me by people I didn't know that well. Some of whom I have told about these experiences have said, "Oh yeah, that sounds like PCP to me. There's some good weed out there but not like that!" But no I never got your 2cb and ALD-52, AL-LAD, ETH-LAD, and 4HO-MET and 4HO-MIPT.

I spent many years eschewing psychedelics for yoga and meditation which I still practice and hope I will some day become enlightened and I hope the same for all of you kids today gettin' started out there trippin'. I was kind of surprised a few years ago when the lama on the Buddhist retreat I was on began half kidding around with us one day about whether we had had any interesting mushroom trips or LSD trips lately. Some of the other yogis confirmed, "No he's not kidding, and I drop acid from time to time myself just to get another angle to check myself on." At the time I said, "Oh come on you don't need to do that do you?"
The last time I had tripped was when I was 26, 30 years before this, and that whole 30 years my attitude was, "Well, the whole thing about life is an insane trip I'm on any way. Psychedelics don't do anything for me." Tho I also did writing and music and art during those 30 years, and people always complained, "I feel like I'm on acid when I read your stuff!" Or "You guys just play drug music!" Or the art I do now almost always gets these looks from people and comments like, "You're like one of those LSD-aholics aren't you? If you didnt take acid all the time you'd have nothing to make art off of, would you?" And to me I just don't get why that invalidates what you do, but some people have no respect for the altered space or dreams and visions for that matter. They don;t get that that is where all the movies and books and stuff they love comes from ultimately.

Anyway, I feel I have come full circle, a mighty long circle at that and I feel I am interested to go back to psychedelics and explore. Only one problem: I live in a country where you could get the death penalty, have your property seized, your entire life destroyed for having one little tab of an LSD analog on your person. In fact there is a guy here in this country from Holland who made a good amount of money running hashish coffee shops in the Netherlands and the authorities here seized his house, bank account and threw him in prison for life because his money was made from a source that was illegal in his new country over here. Real creative prosecution and way to snatch people's money, eh? So, I am no way going to go there or any where even near there ordering research chemicals and what not. But one can still discuss and read and find out about such things on Erowid and Bluelight and I enjoy that almost as much as i would tripping. There is always my memories of all the experiences I had back in the day and my memory is quite good, perhaps too good.

OK, thats my introduction, I hope it was something more than just trivial, slightly stupid and annoying! Cheers!
 
Hey. Welcome to BL. That’s a really interesting story. I lived in SEA for something like 15 years or so in my 20s and 30s and it actually became practically the the longest drug-free stretch of my life except for a few periods where I accepted the risks and went a bit mad more the top quality MDMA and clubbing they had back then in several countries. And the odd mushroom trip in Bali.

I also went back to LSD when I was middle-aged after a 20+ year break and loved it a lot more than I did when I first tried it in my late teens. Got a lot more out of it the second time around.

I couldn’t think which SEA country you might be in that would punish someone to that extent for one single LSD tab. Then remembered when I lived in Singapore where they don’t specify quantities but have a $30k fine and 15 years to life jail term for importing LSD. They have pretty serious asset confiscation laws too that apply globally.

But wherever you are I hope you manage to stay safe and still have fun. The one thing about living in SEA I remember is it was extremely cheap and simple to jump on a plane, or sometimes even a bus, and cross a border to find as much debauchery as you could handle in a neighbouring country.
 
Yeah, the law is very arbitrary here, so anything from not giving a toss to doing everything imaginable to you for having done nothing is possible so you its really not relevant to look up the law because there is none here. So even if you looked up penalties for possession of a tab you wouldn;t find it. In fact I have never seen any mention of psychedelic drugs
From one old codger to another...welcome to Bluelight. Glad you made an account. so don't be shy and post often. :peperave:

in the lists of illegal substances, but tourist bars and parties in the cities where people are relatively drugwise get popped regularly for magic mushrooms more than they should. There are many misleading reports that the authorities look the other way here regarding shrooms. Yes, that's true until they decide not to. Shrooms actually grow everywhere here including in my yard Panaeolus cyanescens and I have sampled them and yeah sure enough they are active, took just enough enough to give myself the giggles. Though that said, locals often say everything is illegal and as an example of the stupid and outrageous laws, its illegal to send paper through the mail, food, candy, books, cds or anything that has been copywritten. Yet I regularly recieve those things through the mail including complaints from the IRS that I still owe them 37 cents, no kidding. Well thats printed on paper, so maybe there out to be an international tribunal about the U,S,'s disrespect and lack of sensitivity to country's laws against sending paper through the mail. Heheh! But no its just to try and scare the pants off of people so that they are submissive and obedient. I order books from Amazon without a hitch and there are bookstores and shops selling cds in any city, so obviously those stores are full of books and cds sent through the mail. Or the terms of my marriage visa are that I will not even engage in any physical activity that a local could do. Thats the wording in the English translation. So by that, it illegal for me to get out of bed. Foreigners get arrested and fined for doing maintenance work on their houses. But The drug war here is no joke and raging full on, yet of course methamphetamine use is ubiquitous and probably much higher than it would be otherwise, many mom and pop noodle stands offer a hit of freebase meth to your noodles for an extra buck. Its not unusual to observe your taxi or bus driver displaying all the signs of being tweaked off their asses.The other day it came out that 83% of the prison population is in for drug related crimes and we have the 4th highest per capita prison population in the world. The prisons are out of control overflowing and among the most horrific in the world, the modern day black hole of Calcutta. In fact the cops were wreaking havoc in my village two weeks ago tearing up people's houses and looking for a couple of meth dealers who ran into the nearby jungle and disappeared. In their rampaging they discovered two pot plants in the garden of a granny and struggling mother and they grabbed them instead and hauled them off to jail. The kids have no one to look after them. Absolutely savage stuff, I am risking way too much even talking about this online.
 
Wow. Scary way to have to live. After reading this many will be glad they weren't born there and had to stay with no resources to even help them. Your post made me very thankful this morning. See you around the forum.
 
Yeah Pumpkin, it is scary but, this society is a lot more fluid about family, so someone will step in to help those kids and no doubt already has and take care of them till their Mom gets out of jail, but she will likely be gone for 2-3 years in prison, Grandma will die there, the authorities don't care. If it were in the US and the kids suddenly had no Mom at home, it would be much worse because the neighbors would as often as not just ignore the situation or just call some agency to swoop the kids up, but here word will get round to extended family or even if not someone in the village will be very happy to take the poor kids in. But it all sucks so much and it is entirely the U.S.'s doing. Before the U.S. pushed these countries, weed was used as a normal feature of life for thousands of years and grows indigenously. Tho in light of that its ironic but at least they had a recent cannabis expo in a neighboring province to promote medical and practical uses for cannabis last week. So things are starting to shift with regards to cannabis. But again, the authorities will exploit the confusion that maybe its OK to grow cannabis and bust people and throw them in prison for 5 years etc.
 
Hi, airbuddy, long time lurker here. Sorry to be so long winded and rambly, thats just how I am bein an old codger and what not. But I really enjoy reading all the comments and reports on BL, so I thought I might enjoy being more active and chiming in now and then. I'm kind of getting old and I have haven't taken psychedelics, which is my interest in drugs, for a looong time. When I was wee whispersnapper in California back in the 70's and 80's I took my lickins from rough trips, mean authority figures, unsupportive siblings and parents and came out not regreting any of it. Its just the wages of psychedelic sin in old MR. McGeever's land of the American Drug war, I suppose. Just acid and shrooms and good weed for me mostly back then. I did get a then very rare chance to smoke DMT back in the day which I took. Not sure it was actually DMT tho. The substance was dull waxy whitish-grey or beige as I recall, not the gorgeous orange crystals I see in all them fancy magazines. The trip was definitely psychedelic and very short, a ten minute experience of meeting an entity that looked like a Victorian doll who was utterly terrified to see that i could see her and she climbed up the walls in my living room disappeared through the cieling which had turned into her mother's glass skirt through which i could see all the stars and constellations even though it was about 4 pm and completely daytime outside. But all of that was superimposed on normal "reality" not the kind of thing I have heard DMT is, where you completely leave this realm. Perhaps the dose was too small or it was some other tryptamine. MDMA came my way the month it was made illegal and I had a great evening on the couch with a girlfriend. A vision appeared of this guy in a blue suit playing a saxophone. I have never heard of MDMA being visionary, but it was for me that one night. 6 months later I went to an Ornette Coleman gig in San Francisco at Wolfgang's and I was absolutely dumbfounded: that MDMA vision was of Ornette at Wolfgang's, he was wearing the exact same blue suit as the vision and striking the same kind of moves as he played through the two sets they did. Not sure what the prupose of having been presented the preminition by goood golly Miss Molly was, but it was a mind blowingly good Ornette date, and among the greatest live music I have ever heard and i was not on anything either. Ornette had been playing with his band Prime Time for quite a few years and they were just locked in as one organism and the cubistic controlled chaotic funk they churned out was psychedelic as hell. I have never found a record by Ornette or heard him and his band play that well since. Ornette did pass away about 7 years ago, so I suppose that makes it a tall order to out do that show at this point. But the girlfriend dumped me about 5 days after we took X together and she was nice enough to give me the rest of her stash and told me to go take it with a friend of hers who was interested in me and see what develops. Very bad idea but I was totally into this chick completely crestfallen to get dumped after a great MDMA experience with her and did as she suggested. I actually sat arguing with this chick half the night, she really bugged me, probably a first an angry MDMA trip. But both times I took MDMA I had pretty strong hangovers, really bleak depression for a few days that made that drug not one I decided I liked. PCP was rampant in Los Angeles back then too and I had some very bizarre experiences a few times after taking a few hits off of joints passed to me by people I didn't know that well. Some of whom I have told about these experiences have said, "Oh yeah, that sounds like PCP to me. There's some good weed out there but not like that!" But no I never got your 2cb and ALD-52, AL-LAD, ETH-LAD, and 4HO-MET and 4HO-MIPT.

I spent many years eschewing psychedelics for yoga and meditation which I still practice and hope I will some day become enlightened and I hope the same for all of you kids today gettin' started out there trippin'. I was kind of surprised a few years ago when the lama on the Buddhist retreat I was on began half kidding around with us one day about whether we had had any interesting mushroom trips or LSD trips lately. Some of the other yogis confirmed, "No he's not kidding, and I drop acid from time to time myself just to get another angle to check myself on." At the time I said, "Oh come on you don't need to do that do you?"
The last time I had tripped was when I was 26, 30 years before this, and that whole 30 years my attitude was, "Well, the whole thing about life is an insane trip I'm on any way. Psychedelics don't do anything for me." Tho I also did writing and music and art during those 30 years, and people always complained, "I feel like I'm on acid when I read your stuff!" Or "You guys just play drug music!" Or the art I do now almost always gets these looks from people and comments like, "You're like one of those LSD-aholics aren't you? If you didnt take acid all the time you'd have nothing to make art off of, would you?" And to me I just don't get why that invalidates what you do, but some people have no respect for the altered space or dreams and visions for that matter. They don;t get that that is where all the movies and books and stuff they love comes from ultimately.

Anyway, I feel I have come full circle, a mighty long circle at that and I feel I am interested to go back to psychedelics and explore. Only one problem: I live in a country where you could get the death penalty, have your property seized, your entire life destroyed for having one little tab of an LSD analog on your person. In fact there is a guy here in this country from Holland who made a good amount of money running hashish coffee shops in the Netherlands and the authorities here seized his house, bank account and threw him in prison for life because his money was made from a source that was illegal in his new country over here. Real creative prosecution and way to snatch people's money, eh? So, I am no way going to go there or any where even near there ordering research chemicals and what not. But one can still discuss and read and find out about such things on Erowid and Bluelight and I enjoy that almost as much as i would tripping. There is always my memories of all the experiences I had back in the day and my memory is quite good, perhaps too good.

OK, thats my introduction, I hope it was something more than just trivial, slightly stupid and annoying! Cheers!
Firstly welcome to Bluelight it is a good place good people and very informative. The poor man from holland he earnt his money legit in his home country and they send him to prison for life

My parents are from Punjab india and they have insane drug laws over there as well but you just bribe the police all they want is money nothing but glorified gangsters sanctioned by the state
 

Welcome to bluelight mate. PM me if you have the time to exchange war stories in Asia​

Know the risks of using in S.E.Asia.​

NEWS

Chemical Engineer Caught Running ‘E’ And Meth Lab In Nonthaburi​

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Published
6 months ago
on
June 5, 2021
By
Stickboy BKK
Breaking Bad Thailand Edition

A chemical engineer who turned to producing Ecstacy pills and crystal meth at his condo in Nonthaburi was arrested this morning by officers from the Narcotics Suppression Bureau.
The Saturday morning raid on a building in Bang Kruai District, Nonthaburi was led by Police General Manu Makemok, Deputy Commissioner General, Royal Thai Police and Police Lieutenant General Montree Yimyaem, commissioner of the Narcotics Suppression Bureau.
Inside the apartment, the prime suspect, 42-year-old suspect Patiwet “Heisenberg” Suwankiri was apprehended.
Drug production equipment and chemical precursors were seized along with 20,000 Ecstacy tablets and 50 grams of crystal meth.
Breaking Bad Thailand Edition

Breaking Bad Thailand Edition

Police General Manu said that the Narcotics Suppression Bureau got a tip that there was a group of pill producers who sold E tablets to entertainment venues in Bangkok.
A surveillance operation was set up and pinpointed Prayoon Thapinna as the dealer. He was taken in for questioning and soon after he folded like a deckchair telling cops who “Heisenberg” was.
During questioning “Heisenberg” was evasive saying he sold the drugs to tourists and that he imported the chemical precursors from online dealers.
Police dismissed both explanations as tourism in Thailand is virtually non-existent due to Covid-19 and the chemicals and tools needed to produce the E and meth have been on a banned list for many years.
He did admit to producing the drugs in his apartment saying he used the knowledge from when he studied chemical engineering
Investigators are working to find more people involved in the operation as the set-up was capable of producing around 3,000 tablets per day.
Photo Credit: 77kaoded
 
Firstly welcome to Bluelight it is a good place good people and very informative. The poor man from holland he earnt his money legit in his home country and they send him to prison for life

My parents are from Punjab india and they have insane drug laws over there as well but you just bribe the police all they want is money nothing but glorified gangsters sanctioned by the state
Yes, that is often all they want is a payoff, but less and less so here. It seems they want promotions, a political career as well more and more. The people here are starting fight back against an entrenched US and China supported aristocracy and I think some younger police see that if they just appear to be ruthless and out for blood they'll get somewhere more than just collecting fees. But I really am just guessing trying to make sense of what is going on.
 

Welcome to bluelight mate. PM me if you have the time to exchange war stories in Asia​

Know the risks of using in S.E.Asia.​

NEWS

Chemical Engineer Caught Running ‘E’ And Meth Lab In Nonthaburi​

ca8044ec19778377addab651d2fc328e

Published
6 months ago
on
June 5, 2021
By
Stickboy BKK
Breaking Bad Thailand Edition

A chemical engineer who turned to producing Ecstacy pills and crystal meth at his condo in Nonthaburi was arrested this morning by officers from the Narcotics Suppression Bureau.
The Saturday morning raid on a building in Bang Kruai District, Nonthaburi was led by Police General Manu Makemok, Deputy Commissioner General, Royal Thai Police and Police Lieutenant General Montree Yimyaem, commissioner of the Narcotics Suppression Bureau.
Inside the apartment, the prime suspect, 42-year-old suspect Patiwet “Heisenberg” Suwankiri was apprehended.
Drug production equipment and chemical precursors were seized along with 20,000 Ecstacy tablets and 50 grams of crystal meth.
Breaking Bad Thailand Edition

Breaking Bad Thailand Edition

Police General Manu said that the Narcotics Suppression Bureau got a tip that there was a group of pill producers who sold E tablets to entertainment venues in Bangkok.
A surveillance operation was set up and pinpointed Prayoon Thapinna as the dealer. He was taken in for questioning and soon after he folded like a deckchair telling cops who “Heisenberg” was.
During questioning “Heisenberg” was evasive saying he sold the drugs to tourists and that he imported the chemical precursors from online dealers.
Police dismissed both explanations as tourism in Thailand is virtually non-existent due to Covid-19 and the chemicals and tools needed to produce the E and meth have been on a banned list for many years.
He did admit to producing the drugs in his apartment saying he used the knowledge from when he studied chemical engineering
Investigators are working to find more people involved in the operation as the set-up was capable of producing around 3,000 tablets per day.
Photo Credit: 77kaoded
Yes, Boku, this news item is rather routine and typical of Phiippines, Thailand, Vietnam, Indonesia,Malaysia, Taiwan, the whole region I've lived all around its variations on the same nearly every week you could find a story like this. I have no war stories to share, nor am I interested in them sorry, I am interested in the mind, not war. I don't use drugs here its too dangerous as I have said already. Its all really tragic and sad and tiresome, I just meant to explain to others why I don;t take research chemicals despite wanting to, I don;t need the paranoia and I don't want to endanger myself and my family its not worth it. In America and europe it's different the law is not totally arbitrary and often the consequences for being caught simply investigating your mind and mind altering substances are small enough that it might be worth it. Not here. Not worth it. No way.
 
First thing that came to mind was SOUTH EAST ASIA
Hell Yeah.

Huge introduction.

SO HUGE WELCOME
cant wait to hear more!!

NR xx
 
Thank you guys! I think this is an absolutely brilliant forum! I hope I can find appreciative people here, but if not not, never mind I have so many ideas and thoughts pertaining to things psychedelia to keep myself happy.People in art and music largely don't get it, its strange, I feel sorry for most people, that they just don't know and never will. But alas, the beauty and depth and wisdom of psychedelia is not understood by most. It is absolutely stunning what we who know have, beyond damn computer technology is the psycho-technology that we have been exploring and gotten much experience with.

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