☮ Social ☮ PD Social Tripping Thread: Tripping Past 2020

[Xorkoth]

I have yet to combine nitrous and DMT, though I have combined MXPr and DMT (and LSD), which was... unexplainable, one of the most profound and undeniable paranormal experiences I have ever had. The guy whose DMT it was, who was tripping with me but not on DMT, was on my trip with me, he was describing my visuals precisely, and we were both like how is this possible? I was experiencing a net of grid lines that was controlling the movements and speech of everyone and everything around me, and turning my head would change the conversations I heard people having, in mid-sentence they'd suddenly transition into having a different conversation, like an alternate reality based on which way my head was turned. My friend whose DMT it was, who was on my trip, and I talked about this, it was one of the things he described to me while it was happening. We talked about it afterwards. I also did a deep psychoanalysis on him and got way inside his head, too. Then he died from an overdose a couple of nights later and I had a random panic attack which happened, I found out, right around the time he likely died. The experience sort of redefined my idea of what is possible.

 

[Pfafffed]

Damn, Xorkoth. That's intense, and terribly sad.

 

[Img_9999]

I remember when you talked about that here, Xork
Sounds so intense

 

[Xorkoth]

It was, blew my mind pretty hard. In fact I haven't done DMT since. I have experienced extraordinary and unbelievable stuff I felt was true before on psychedelics, of course, but this was verified to me by someone else, it was something that common worldview says is impossible, that I can't deny.

 

[Drunk on Kombucha]

I have yet to combine nitrous and DMT, though I have combined MXPr and DMT (and LSD), which was... unexplainable, one of the most profound and undeniable paranormal experiences I have ever had. The guy whose DMT it was, who was tripping with me but not on DMT, was on my trip with me, he was describing my visuals precisely, and we were both like how is this possible? I was experiencing a net of grid lines that was controlling the movements and speech of everyone and everything around me, and turning my head would change the conversations I heard people having, in mid-sentence they'd suddenly transition into having a different conversation, like an alternate reality based on which way my head was turned. My friend whose DMT it was, who was on my trip, and I talked about this, it was one of the things he described to me while it was happening. We talked about it afterwards. I also did a deep psychoanalysis on him and got way inside his head, too. Then he died from an overdose a couple of nights later and I had a random panic attack which happened, I found out, right around the time he likely died. The experience sort of redefined my idea of what is possible.

Sorry to hear that Xorkoth. But a very interesting trip.

I have loads of theories like we all do but, upon discussions with a new psychonaut friend and after my most recent trip, I'm convinced that we may have layers of reality/dimensions all overlapping each other and existing simultaneously and that psychedelics lift the veil/loosen the filter in some sense. Kind of boils back down to the stereotypical "it's all in your head/the drug" and "it was all 100% real" argument with psychedelics but every trip leans me closer to believing that this reality is just the tip of the iceberg. Needless to say I think it is always safer to assume that everything is possible rather than not.

Curious, does anyone have any experience or stories with strange/moving lights in the sky while tripping?

 

[Xorkoth]

Not wile tripping but I had a pretty intense experience once while sober.

Anyway yeah my experiences have led me to believe that we are all connected and that there is much more than meets the eye. I wouldn't ever claim to know for sure, well, the experience I described was pretty irrefutable. I have had quite a few other experiences as well as experiences that felt more real than anything else I've experienced, but none of us really knows what's going on.

 

[Delsyd]

Without going into any of my own wacky beliefs I’ll just say that what I experience on strong DMT trips always feels very real.

 

[Drunk on Kombucha]

Not wile tripping but I had a pretty intense experience once while sober.

Anyway yeah my experiences have led me to believe that we are all connected and that there is much more than meets the eye. I wouldn't ever claim to know for sure, well, the experience I described was pretty irrefutable. I have had quite a few other experiences as well as experiences that felt more real than anything else I've experienced, but none of us really knows what's going on.

Do you mind sharing the experience?

See, the deep personal sense I've felt numerous times and kind of the conclusion about consciousness/the universe I came to was that it is like all one big organism and we are all just cells that allow it to experience itself through different perspectives, basically. And from a kind of sedentary explicative perspective, that does sum up the universe, I feel. But my buddhist buddy who is one of the smartest people I've ever met says that all the perineal new age stuff is wrong and that we are not all one. Which, like you said, none of us know, but the only point I could think of to back that up is that all of this is in fact an illusion, so even if we are all some how "one", it is still just part of the illusion. Idk, i am a little high. But instinctively i do feel like we are all connected, I just find the disconnect between theravada buddhism and what I have experienced and felt personally to be odd--because a majority of the rest of buddhism makes great sense to me. But the more abstract concepts still rack my brain a bit

And yeah @Delsyd, i have yet to blast off but a majority of my more sober/grounded trips feel ultimately very real and more like I am experiencing something more or less unattainable through the 5 senses alone rather than pure hallucination. But I am inclined to believe that a "6th sense" is likely the next step in human evolution and maybe if it weren't for so many environmental/social factors, many of us would basically already be psychic

 

[Drunk on Kombucha]

Without going into any of my own wacky beliefs I’ll just say that what I experience on strong DMT trips always feels very real.

Also I wouldn't mind hearing some of your wacky beliefs if you care to share

 

[Drunk on Kombucha]

I am entirely with you. But with additional context though. I wouldn't use tip myself.

I'm thinking pivot. And the iceberb, is some thing too! So it needs a solid and dependable pivot not just something which could break off and float away, or melt.

Like if there is some sort of purpose to this life and consciousness in the long run and bigger picture then everything is equally significant in a sense that's what I mean partly.

Because life can feel quite shit empty and meaningless sometimes it's impossible to keep perspective when your chips are really down.

Yes, I mostly just meant the tip as far as what is really out there. Sky is the limit, in other words, I think--to an extent--we are solely limited by our beliefs. Which is included in the social and environmental factors I mentioned. The universe opens up to you only as much as you are open to it. And I'm not saying it is placebo in any form (though in some cases it might be, or, who knows, perhaps our minds literally create reality so whatever we believe and expect is in some form true!) but placebo is a perfect example of how if you think something will have an effect, you feel the effect and your body and mind can manufacture it. But, in the same sense, anything you believe is not possible becomes intrinsically less possible for you or for you to experience.

But yes, life can feel very empty some times. It is all a matter of perspective. Psychedelics, specifically san pedro, have taught me that it is a blessing to be able to experience anything at all. Yet, in the grand scheme of things and the universe and as far as we know, our lives are basically just insignificant specks (though perhaps I see lifetimes and souls as two quite different things). I think the choices we make and the energy we put out do have an impact and effect how everything circles around but, oddly, I find the notion that literally none of this matters very comforting. It may sound nihilistic but I don't mean it like that

 

[Drunk on Kombucha]

Ofc. I understood exactly where you are coming from I wasn't trying to dispute or suggest an alternative really I was just expanding on what you had touched upon philosophically from my own angle.

Once we get there it doesn't matter anyway what we think now and figure I'm a very serious man as a philosopher and more like a comedian I guess which balances it out but I try not to take things overly seriously because we are only mortals and this is only an experience.

If it wasn't such a painful one for me personally I would probably be shouting from the rooftops.

I see. I'm not sure it will help much and it is easier said than done, especially with plant medicine involved, but a realization/re-realization I had not long ago on a mini dose of cactus and mushrooms was... I could feel them coming on and suddenly felt a pain in my head and my instinct was to resist, like gah who wants to be high on psychedelics and have a headache the whole time? That sucks. But I closed my eyes and as I surrendered to let the medicine do its work I realized that pain is always an opportunity and when it comes, rather than run from it we have a chance to embrace it and welcome it with love and then potentially it will be replaced with love. It might just sound hippy dippy but it was a meaningful moment for me and I feel like it applies to all sorts of things in life with how if you just accept them, it becomes much easier to move forward and build off and around these potential obstacles rather than trying to just exist in their presence or avoid them. But I understand pain is a part of life and only so much can be welcome before it all just seems too much

 

[Drunk on Kombucha]

A quote I like says "the cure for the pain is within the pain"

 

[Drunk on Kombucha]

I actually very strongly believe in mind over matter as in the power of true infinite consciousness remaining within a spiritual soul which count to a degree remain relatively immune from the elements of cognitive decline and mortal limitations and sickness and weakness.

And....absurd supposedly anyway, LSD use. The really uncanny thing about the stay however I present here on this forum in real person you would honestly not meet somebody who is more perfectly comfortable and capable at communicating verbally with body language in tune without being inappropriate very sensitive and completely aware with a balance of humour and light but always truth and meaning and interest.

The more extensively I have abused LSD throughout this year the more solidified my personal verbal communication ability has become so natural in a really eyes closed manner and my ability to have genuine fun expressing myself with language in true meaningful fashion very flexibly without any effort has been massively improved which is not something commonly reported with absurdly high LSD intake.

Mental destabilisation and psychosis and emotional breakdown those are different matters as well as nervous physical exhaustion too.



But I do not feel like I have lost my mind or faculries, as such.

It's a toll though. Like 38 mg's in 10 months. Some now 320 Micrograms. Been a crazy week. Maybe, maybe a trip even here can reset.

And I am with you on the whole phenomena of pain itself which really stems from energy of a thought structure ultimately like most things materially within our bodies and is kind of psychosomatic in cases and can literally be rubbed off the map by entering that fluid mindset and letting go within it.

Again lol, Just another little puzzle piece of my bizarre existence!

Yes, I think it all ultimately comes down to mind over matter and then perspective.

I am glad if you have been having positive effects from LSD! If your purposes are rewiring your brain, it may be worthwhile to look into trying/combining other psychedelics. Anyone who has taken mushrooms I think has at least somewhat instinctively known this but the science came out not long ago showing that they block and shut down certain communication in the brain and then, as it is slowly restored, allows the creation of new pathways.

John C Lily apparently would take heroic doses of acid and hop into a sensory deprivation tank in an attempt to reprogram his brain and alleviate his horrible migraines. I think he was onto something there but apparently LSD didn't work as well for his purposes as ketamine did.

Either way, I think psychedelics are great and in some sense essential for self discovery and helping allow us to become who we truly would like to be or feel comfortable being. I owe a lot to them

 

[Drunk on Kombucha]

I know little about your condition (and also wonder how it only came about later in life?) but have you ever tried Quercetin? Perhaps you will be allergic to that too or, if not, it won't be strong enough to make a difference but it is a natural antihistamine found in fruits and such. I just wonder if something like that may help and you can definitely titrate it. Unlike pharmaceutical antihistamines, you don't have to take it every day for it to work.

Peace and luck on your journey and exploring your mind!

 

[Img_9999]

Enjoyed my Halloween with a little bit of 2c-p and some horror movies

That sounds like something that would give me a panic attack lol

 

[Psychestim]

Coming down from my first DOM trip and wow, what a ride that was.

Had a very cathartic and profound experience today. Cried several times and got a deep look into myself. Was honestly surprised of how forceful the DOM pushed me into looking at myself. I had extremely deep conversations with my girlfriend and overall got a lot out of the experience. This was one of the most insightful trips Ive had in a long while.

DOM is an absolutely fantastic substance.

 

[Buzz Lightbeer]

Coming down from my first DOM trip and wow, what a ride that was.

Had a very cathartic and profound experience today. Cried several times and got a deep look into myself. Was honestly surprised of how forceful the DOM pushed me into looking at myself. I had extremely deep conversations with my girlfriend and overall got a lot out of the experience. This was one of the most insightful trips Ive had in a long while.

DOM is an absolutely fantastic substance.

Nice!! What was your dose? Or is it kind of a guess with the underdosed blotters?

 

[Psychestim]

Nice!! What was your dose? Or is it kind of a guess with the underdosed blotters?

Took two lab-tested pellets (2.55mg + 0.54mg) so only 3.1mg according to my testing center, but I’m honestly surprised how powerful that was.

I recently talked to someone who said that 25mg 2C-B was about as strong as 5mg DOM for them. For me those 3.1mg were far stronger than that.

 

[Drunk on Kombucha]

Coming down from my first DOM trip and wow, what a ride that was.

Had a very cathartic and profound experience today. Cried several times and got a deep look into myself. Was honestly surprised of how forceful the DOM pushed me into looking at myself. I had extremely deep conversations with my girlfriend and overall got a lot out of the experience. This was one of the most insightful trips Ive had in a long while.

DOM is an absolutely fantastic substance.

I don't know much about DOM. How would you compare it to LSD?

 

[Drunk on Kombucha]

I ama awate or quercetin. Good stuff by all accoints. I would have definitely tried it years ago except I'm just intolerant to pretty much all supplements out there with only a few exceptions and it cost me money and days of two Mencius suffering to prove this point so I stopped really experimenting many years back.

I did not elaborate before but the Lyme disease actually onset in 2005 and flipped everything upside down from there ever since by dysregulating my immune and nervous system effectively. It's been a road since including a genuine severe case of long Covid for nearly 14 months now nerve based causing severe physical nerve damage massively exacerbating an already existing anxiety disorder.

Add to influenzas six week jobs in 11 months it's certainly been an intense year.

The LSD has hit me quite strongly as well as this Durban poison vaporiser just in the moment.

But I hope it is apparent that sense and reason is not entirely lost in this situation.

That sounds rough. But I understand why you would quit really trying to experiment with anything new.

One thing you can try that is actually free and I'm almost positive cannot hurt you is Wim Hof method. I can't remember if he ever talked about training people with Lyme disease but I'm sure he has. I can rant about Wim and his method forever but all I'll say is the first time I tried it I was on LSD and it was an insanely profound experience