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Overrated and underrated drugs

Nightraver said:
Being British and from a certain generation I’m going to say liquid gel temazepam aka jellies are the most underrated drug ever created. Holy shit those gel filled caps were the breakfast cereal of the gods .
I’m actually glad they banned them in Great Britain 🇬🇧 or else the prisons would still be filled with violent offenders with no recollection of there crimes. My god the things almost made you indestructible lol at the time anyway
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We called them footsies bcoz they resemble footballs
 
draculic acid69 said:
They banned them bcoz ppl kept injecting the liquid and clogging veins with waxy liquid temazepam.i heard it led to a few amputations.
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Also because the sun newspaper had a campaign because people were using it as a glitch to get out of a prison sentence
 
I would definitely say DXM..

Pure powder on the internet means no goup from sucrets or Cough Syrup.. or even Coricidin which can have a valid dose itself..

But with pure powder you can have an exceptional trip..

Doing DXM is like psychotherapy for the body and soul.. Perfect objectivity and very nice euphoria.. all boundaries dissolved..
 
Brendan12 said:
Pure powder on the internet means no goup from sucrets or Cough Syrup.. or even Coricidin which can have a valid dose itself..
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Coricidin is the worst possible source of DXM because it contains not only acetaminophen, which damages your liver at the dosages required to trip, it also contains chlorpheniramine maleate, an old-school antihistamine that, among other things, most importantly acts as a serotonin reuptake inhibitor, which is extremely dangerous to combine with DXM. I knew two kids who died from coricidin in my high school. I have done it about 10 times, before I ever even knew what DXM was, I just knew about Coricidin. You'd be far better off taking syrup without other active ingredients than you would Coricidin. Coricidin is not DXM, it's a combination with a strong antihistamine and serotonin reuptake inhibitor.

But yeah, the pure powder is far better than either.
 
Yeah I do two boxes of Coricidin in one sitting once per week...

And I am on powder (DXM) every other day... about 250-350 during the day..and then ad that same amount at night..

Also smoke weed and hash etc... Sometimes drink as well...not to the overdose limit or anything..but enough to get a buzz..
 
Most overrated: Crack, by far.
I love all kinds of drugs and I've used & abused many over the last 50 years. I always enjoyed powder cocaine and had a brief but devastating IV coke habit in 1987.
I've smoked crack 6 or 7 times ('80s, '90s, & 2010) and every time the people I was with (crack enthusiasts) assured me it was good stuff.
I don't get it. I do not find the high particularly euphoric and it only lasts a few minutes. Plus, it tastes nasty. At this point I would turn down FREE crack.
I'd rather have a cup of coffee.
 
I’ve noticed that several people have said gabapentin...I’m curious as to what the best way to “get something” out of this substance is? I’ve taken a gram+ dose before but haven’t felt anything, but then I was reading that you’re supposed to dose every 45 mins and combine with a high-fat meal or something? Also, is it good in combination with other things like opioids or cannabis?

Basically I have a large bottle of the stuff that’s been kicking around forever which I pretty much wrote off, but maybe someone just needs to point me in the right direction
 
Take it 300mg at a time, separated by 45 minutes each. Take it on a full stomach, after eating fatty foods. Pre-load with NSAIDs. The reason these all work is because gabapentin is a strange drug, in that it is absorbed via an amino acid transporter in the small intestine. So its absorption rate is limited to ~300-400mg per 30-45 minutes. NSAIDs increase gut permeability so they help. And having food digesting along with it makes your guts work better.

II get good effect by about the time I've taken the 4th dose, so 1200mg. The effects are both subtle and powerful.

Cannabis is a great combo with it. Opiates are also good although some people say that they can't feel opioids on it. But many find they potentiate each other.
 
Of course each person is vastly different but for me and my experience

Overrated:
  • Crack
  • LSD
  • Xanax
  • Most types of amphetamines
  • Oxycodone - solely because after like the first two times doing it I had to double my dose and just started chasing the dragon - never meeting him again

Underrated:
  • DMT - I don't even like tripping but this was the wildest 10 minutes of my life.
  • MDA - No comedown at all for me, felt great after. Had it in London 2014 if it was really MDA or not I don't know but was short lasting with clear MDMA like effects.
  • Brand name Adderall XR 30s - only because all other Adderall or "amphetamine salts" suck.
  • Dilaudid - did it once in 2009 and I think I dropped all 20 cigs from my pack out the window from nodding. Felt great though
 
Xanax and codeine in the form of lean take the grand prize for most overrated drugs. Every time I hear the word "lean" I cringe. Codeine, at least to me, is pretty shit in general, even when I had no tolerance I never enjoyed it.

I think mushrooms are pretty underrated in the sense that people don't realize the full potential of them and just want to see crazy things and giggle their asses off. Psilocybin mushrooms are the most beneficial drug I have taken as far as improving my mental health.
 
Alprazolam is the king of benzos in my mind so I can't say it's overrated. I've tried maybe 30 different benzos and i like alprazolam the most. There is this nice mania to it that I like. Also the most dangerous for me in terms of disinhibited behavior, but this is what makes it so much fun.

Most overrated is perhaps alcohol or cigarettes. Or maybe marijuana.

Underrated, probably nitrous oxide. Now that is a euphoric drug, and that is coming from a former 💉 user. It is very hard to use though relatively speaking. It can take 30 minutes of continuous inhalation to get there. Intensely psychedelic but in a dark, weird dissociative way. The psychedelic effects are almost an unwanted side-effect. They can sort of bring down the experience or make it weird. I like it mostly for its gabaergic and opioid like effect. It acts at the BZD site of the GABA-A from what I recall. Only fell into it during benzo withdrawal, which it temporarily alleviates in full, essentially.
 
Xorkoth said:
Take it 300mg at a time, separated by 45 minutes each. Take it on a full stomach, after eating fatty foods. Pre-load with NSAIDs. The reason these all work is because gabapentin is a strange drug, in that it is absorbed via an amino acid transporter in the small intestine. So its absorption rate is limited to ~300-400mg per 30-45 minutes. NSAIDs increase gut permeability so they help. And having food digesting along with it makes your guts work better.

II get good effect by about the time I've taken the 4th dose, so 1200mg. The effects are both subtle and powerful.

Cannabis is a great combo with it. Opiates are also good although some people say that they can't feel opioids on it. But many find they potentiate each other.
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Thanks a lot! I'll give that method a try

negrogesic said:
Alprazolam is the king of benzos in my mind so I can't say it's overrated. I've tried maybe 30 different benzos and i like alprazolam the most. There is this nice mania to it that I like. Also the most dangerous for me in terms of disinhibited behavior, but this is what makes it so much fun.
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IMO it depends...I actually think that it's a strong drug but I don't find it particularly enjoyable (BZDs are a very subjective class of drug though and some people like em, just not my cup o tea) and it does get referenced way too much in pop culture, in the same way that codeine syrup did as others have mentioned. So in that sense I do agree that it's probably overrated, in that sense that people will try some thinking "oh I've heard so much about this stuff, it's gotta be great!", and then they take a bunch and just end up blacking out and doing something totally moronic lol
 
Weed=overrated. Fun like a few times when you're 15. Not worth it when you're an actual adult. Messes with clarity of mind, even if you don't have a mental illness. Paranoia otherwise. What a big mess. More people wanting to make it legal, even as THC content goes through the roof and more literature surfaces all the time about how it causes mental illness. smh.

Benzos=overrated. Doesn't matter if you have a script or not. Will proceed to hold in what needs to be expressed, and hardly be therapeutic.

Kava=overrated. Okay if you're healthy I guess? Not very powerful. Weird mechanisms.

Sub=underrated. Complex, but actually quite useful script wise. Best parts of opioids, few of the downfalls.

SSRIs=underrated. What can I say, I'm a MH geezer.

3rd-gen antipsychotics=the same. I'm a MH geezer.

Pharm amphetamine=both. Can't well-explain this one atm.
 
SSRIs do help some people but placebo controlled studies find them only 10% more effective against depression than a sugar pill. And they have some truly concerning side effects. Not to mention that they often cause an increase in depression and can cause suicidal and homocidal thoughts. I was turned off of SSRIs forever when my ex's cousin was prescribed Paxil at age 13 because her parents caught her doing drugs and her psychiatrist decided she MUST be depressed to be using drugs. She went from a normal kid experimenting with drugs into a withdrawn recluse. She began having intrusive thoughts about killing her family and herself. She was mature enough to come to her parents with this disturbing side effect and they were smart enough to discontinue her use despite the psychiatrist insisting that she needed to stay on them longer for them to work (she was on it for about 6 months, pretty sure the psychiatrist was just getting kickbacks from the pharma company considering the office was full of Paxil paraphernalia). Within a short time coming off it she went back to normal and considers the whole thing a terrible dreamlike time. Some years after that they started adding the disclaimer "may cause suicidal thoughts in children". Some time after that they expanded that to "and young adults".

Sketchy, sketchy drugs. Though I am aware they do help some people. I have met few who they really helped much, though.

Agree kava is overrated. Some people seem to react well to it but I have had very good kava and a few times it's produced a euphoric rush that was very pleasurable, followed 20 minutes later by a crash. Most of the time it's so subtle it could almost be placebo. People who love it really seem to love it though. Wish I got more from it, I want to love it, but it just doesn't do it for me.
 
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