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Conspiracies The Covid Narrative

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you have that:

www.bbc.com

Lisa Shaw death: Husband calls for vaccine choice

Lisa Shaw's widower wants people to have the choice of which Covid-19 vaccine they get.
www.bbc.com

then you have this:


www.bbc.com

HMS Queen Elizabeth: Covid outbreak on Navy flagship

There have been around 100 cases on HMS Queen Elizabeth, the BBC has been told.
www.bbc.com


these are the articles they like to bury because "we gotta fight back against misinformation and vaccine hesitancy!"


Data released today show that between Dec. 14, 2020 and July 9, 2021, a total of 463,457 total adverse events were reported to VAERS, including 10,991 deaths — an increase of 1,943 over the previous week. There were 48,385 serious injuries reported during the same time period — up 7,370 compared with the previous week.


those are big numbers....it's something to consider
 
Mr. Krinkle said:
you have that:

www.bbc.com

Lisa Shaw death: Husband calls for vaccine choice

Lisa Shaw's widower wants people to have the choice of which Covid-19 vaccine they get.
www.bbc.com

then you have this:


www.bbc.com

HMS Queen Elizabeth: Covid outbreak on Navy flagship

There have been around 100 cases on HMS Queen Elizabeth, the BBC has been told.
www.bbc.com


these are the articles they like to bury because "we gotta fight back against misinformation and vaccine hesitancy!"


Data released today show that between Dec. 14, 2020 and July 9, 2021, a total of 463,457 total adverse events were reported to VAERS, including 10,991 deaths — an increase of 1,943 over the previous week. There were 48,385 serious injuries reported during the same time period — up 7,370 compared with the previous week.


those are big numbers....it's something to consider
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Those articles are not buried mate - they're on the bbc ffs!

So what if sailors on a ship who were vaccinated caught covid? I don't understand? It's clear that a fair few vaccinated people catch covid - it's also clear that vaccination lessens effects/deaths in affected people. We already know that?
 
ageingpartyfiend said:
Those articles are not buried mate - they're on the bbc ffs!

So what if sailors on a ship who were vaccinated caught covid? I don't understand? It's clear that a fair few vaccinated people catch covid - it's also clear that vaccination lessens effects/deaths in affected people. We already know that?
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well with those kinds of numbers, how can you say that they wouldn't have had the same results, vaccinated or not?
 
Mr. Krinkle said:
well with those kinds of numbers, how can you say that they wouldn't have had the same results, vaccinated or not?
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I cannot, same as you

I can saying with authority however that those articles you deemed 'buried; are on the fukkin BBC - ie the opposite of buried, very much exposed in fact (I know fact's 'aint your thing :)

Locally, over the last month I have heard of a mid 50's apparently super-healthy woman falling downstairs with 2 bloodclots 12 hours after taking the AZ jab (she lived and is apparently 100% recovered now) I have also personally heard of dozens people being double-vaxxed with almost zero side effects bar feeling slightly rough for a couple of days

Have also personally heard of a devastated teenager giving covid to her anti-vax grandfather who ended up in ICU. He also recovered so I hear, good job too or his granddaughter's life likely ruined eh)
 
ageingpartyfiend said:
I cannot, same as you

I can saying with authority however that those articles you deemed 'buried; are on the fukkin BBC - ie the opposite of buried, very much exposed in fact (I know fact's 'aint your thing :)

Locally, over the last month I have heard of a mid 50's apparently super-healthy woman falling downstairs with 2 bloodclots 12 hours after taking the AZ jab (she lived and is apparently 100% recovered now) I have also personally heard of dozens people being double-vaxxed with almost zero side effects bar feeling slightly rough for a couple of days

Have also personally heard of a devastated teenager giving covid to her anti-vax grandfather who ended up in ICU. He also recovered so I hear, good job too or his granddaughter's life likely ruined eh)
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oh sorry

when i said they're buried, they're buried from here, not there....

yea man shits going down regardless


i still say to stay from all these shots and wait on the novavax if you're still holding out undecided

no shots for anybody who's healthy under 30 and maybe even under 50 if you think you're in good shape

that's what the recommendations should be

i think Italy is saying nobody under 60 really needs it - something like that anyway
 
We have some legit ivermectin, massively oppressed thus far, en route from India.

Hydroxychloriquine (not the patented synthetic pharmaceutical version which is what can cause side effects but the natural homemade version) may be fairly obsolete for purposes specifically of treating Covid if Ivermectin is used, as the Hydroxy works primarily to get zinc into the cells, which does prevent viral replication.

I do feel pretty crap, but a (this) viral liver infection would surely cause hangover feelings and really hamper detoxification too. I’m going to electrify my liver.

I cleared viral heart infections identically in past, very quickly, no side effects or lasting damage from the infection.

@F.U.B.A.R. hope you’re good man. I have actually been (very mistakenly as common with the full range of bizarre and extreme seemingly unconnected abnormalities with Lyme), been labelled as a hypochondriac.

When I’m actually pretty damn “hard-core” as we say lol, usually in reference to stacks of every available hallucinogen wages could buy.

So I’m privileged in my mind. Sure, long Covid is a nasty bitch, but it’s heading out, no indication of permanent harm, and I’m making real time first hand specific observations of it’s movements and patterns.

We can read articles, stats, etc. This is another way of learning. I will be seeing how it is possible to better manage and clear, intent to prevent further Covid infections.

It is what it is. I don’t think I’ve slightly whinged about having Covid, (not that anybody suggested so), at least I can keep monitor, observation and learn from and about it.

At least there is zero Covid in my lungs. Which are now steadily max 15% or less level of respiratory infection, last Saturday and Sunday it was 95%. Not Covid though, Adenovirus and two overlapping Coxsackies.

My mum and I, this will alarm many, and my sanity may be finally officially questioned but I’ll never shy, would die before being jabbed.

That, is how strongly we feel. We just want to get well (enough). It’s unlikely, if we make no reference to Covid here for argument’s sake, take it out the loop, that the jab would increase my or mum’s prospects of that, again, Covid aside.

So protection (?????) against Covid and therefore not a danger (????) to those (very possibly including ME in reference to this line of argument and duty, self sacrifice) for whom the vaccine doesn’t offer (complete?????) protection, without any guarantees, and again, a real possibility of adverse reaction, to me is very counter-intuitive to what I sweat blood and tears for.
 
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PattiSmythe said:
Caught covid, was mildly unwell. Not taking the vaccine, not ever
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Yeh, I caught it and was mildly unwell for a week, until it hit me like train and I couldn't move for four days. Took another week to recover. I'll be honest, I've had worse doses of influenza, but this is a fuckin weird disease that lasts much longer than your average dose of flu.

I just don't understand why anyone would refuse to take the vaccine..?
 
F.U.B.A.R. said:
Yeh, I caught it and was mildly unwell for a week, until it hit me like train and I couldn't move for four days. Took another week to recover. I'll be honest, I've had worse doses of influenza, but this is a fuckin weird disease that lasts much longer than your average dose of flu.

I just don't understand why anyone would refuse to take the vaccine..?
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Was it a respiratory infection? I don’t like Long Covid but it’s only about on par with viruses I already contract 7 or 8 times a year and last just as long.

But Covid in the lungs is pie of piss lol, with the RIGHT treatment applied in time.

The Vaccine is simply not guaranteed to protect me against Covid. There are more and more and more breakthrough cases as we go along. Each is dismissed as an isolated misrepresentational occurrence,

Safety, is NOT ensured. Covid will very very unlikely kill me by way or respiratory infection. Ivermectin, we’ll see, may be enough to clear the long Covid fully.

I MAY not acquire it again this year, I may, it’s to be seen,

I’m beating Covid. It’s only actually contagious for 5 days fuck what Fuaci Dauci & Co claim.

I will see if I can avoid it, or gradually acquire immunity, this has been suggested to me as a possibility.

I don’t believe my government and their paid lying scientists and plainly Satanic media.

I genuinely see myself being jabbed as a huge threat to my hopes of restoring order to a massively disordered immune system already, with experimental gene therapy, non approved only authorised on grounds of an emergency, which Lockdowns are the definitionary green light, human TRIALS not complete for over 12 months and cunningly not actually devised to measure actual safety.

This is not even conspiracy shit. This is rationality. A lot of non conspiracy type people at all are exercising the very same logic and outlook.
 
AutoTripper said:
Was it a respiratory infection? I don’t like Long Covid but it’s only about on par with viruses I already contract 7 or 8 times a year and last just as long.

But Covid in the lungs is pie of piss lol, with the RIGHT treatment applied in time.

The Vaccine is simply not guaranteed to protect me against Covid. There are more and more and more breakthrough cases as we go along. Each is dismissed as an isolated misrepresentational occurrence,

Safety, is NOT ensured. Covid will very very unlikely kill me by way or respiratory infection. Ivermectin, we’ll see, may be enough to clear the long Covid fully.

I MAY not acquire it again this year, I may, it’s to be seen,

I’m beating Covid. It’s only actually contagious for 5 days fuck what Fuaci Dauci & Co claim.

I will see if I can avoid it, or gradually acquire immunity, this has been suggested to me as a possibility.

I don’t believe my government and their paid lying scientists and plainly Satanic media.

I genuinely see myself being jabbed as a huge threat to my hopes of restoring order to a massively disordered immune system already, with experimental gene therapy, non approved only authorised on grounds of an emergency, which Lockdowns are the definitionary green light, human TRIALS not complete for over 12 months and cunningly not actually devised to measure actual safety.

This is not even conspiracy shit. This is rationality. A lot of non conspiracy type people at all are exercising the very same logic and outlook.
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I think you have valid reasons for not taking it mate. I'm aware of the nightmare you've had with Lyme's disease. But there is no excuse for otherwise healthy people not to take it. You may argue that "if I'm otherwise healthy, then why bother as it isn't going to affect me that much?"

I consider myself 'otherwise healthy' - even though I smoke like a chimney and drink like a fish. Luckily, I didn't have respiratory problems, but it was still very scary. But the major point is that taking the vaccine can minimise transmission to other people. So even if you are 'otherwise healthy', taking the shots can help save someone else's life.
 
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PattiSmythe said:
Caught covid, was mildly unwell. Not taking the vaccine, not ever
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Other than variants (which we do not see too many mono, small pox, polio, and other viruses) I think a person that has had the virus and beat it already did what they needed to get past it, for themselves and spreading it. From what we know of viruses it is a one and out shot. I have had shingles and mono an my doctor does not recommend vaccines simply because I have had those. I do not think there is any danger with getting a vaccine after the actual illness but we need to be clear on how and why. Right now I see a lot of hysteria. It could be possible that covid will be a mutated virus and reinfect people. But we don't see that with other viruses too often. And if it mutates and keeps spreading to people that already had it we better come up with a better word than virus. We may just need to call it a disease.

I feel like I had covid in Dec of 2019. I had a strange cough and fever for a week after coming back from Canada and I never get sick. But I slept that week. Two weeks later all I hear is covid but now the timeline of when it came the US does not match. Yet why do I feel if I had a covid test at that time it would have came up positive? (being a speculative ass :) )

There are a lot of things we can't know. They are still arguing of the origin.

Any blaming of who gave who covid could destroy us as a planet. We can't do that to each other. We can't know who gave who what. But I agree on being careful out of principle.

With clubs and sporting events opening we'll get more info in the coming days. I really hope it does not spread again but if it does add it to a reason to get the vaccine.
 
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well where are all of the big outbreaks we were supposed to have in large gatherings like sporting events?

how come the grocery stores were packed to the gills and it didn't seem like that set off much?

what happened to the 1918 Flu w/o vaccines?

why should i take a risk with a shot that's a risk to take when i don't feel at risk to begin with?

and why do i gotta sign a waiver if it's so safe? im on my own after the shot? sweet deal
 
birdup.snaildown said:
Realistically, the world isn't going to change course. This is the shit pile we live in thanks to COVID. You can either accept it or deny it. I'm having a lot of trouble accepting it, myself, at the moment. It's fucked. The lack of transparency is fucked. The blatant lies. Why do they pretend to know what's going on when clearly they have no idea?

Our longest lockdown was 112 days. We are now in lockdown number 5. There were 19 cases today. That's not a typo. Nineteen.

Some fucker who works in a local bottle shop had a go at me today for not wearing a mask. Fuck him. When I had my vaccination, I assumed things would be different once I got the jab. Then, I realized, I have to wait for other people to have it... and I accepted that, because it isn't my nature to beat myself up about shit I can't change. But, how long do I have to wait?

Has this little cunt that lectured me today had a jab yet?
I seriously fucking doubt it.

Australia has fucked itself by containing the virus so well to begin with. Nobody in this country really witnessed the threat, so we aren't motivated to get the vaccination. Maybe the US wins in the end, because they failed so much to begin with.

Thanks Trump?

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Australia has it a lot worse with draconian measures THAN the US . I would be upset and feel how you do if that’s how it was here. For us, fully vaccinated means no mask necessary. Some choose to still wear one, I do not. But it’s left up to choice. Australia is way overdoing it, IMO. Glad I live in America right now for sure
 
F.U.B.A.R. said:
there is no excuse for otherwise healthy people not to take it.
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That's not true.

I know a perfectly healthy guy in his 40s who had his first AstraZeneca jab and then ended up in ICU in the hospital with the blood clotting disorder. He almost died. He has numerous dependents. There is basically no virus in the country.

Let's be honest.
 
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