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She's perverted enough! She'll have 8!orgasms and still want more
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axe battler
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Gets too much for me! Maybe I could keep up with her!
How does it compare to n-ethylhexedrone (hexen)? Or a-pcyp?
The best is probably a-pvp. N-ethylhexedrone was very strong but the comedown was pretty bad. In fact the comedown required benzos. That's my issue with it.
axe battler
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I can get benzos no probs. What's the closest to MDPV? That you can vape on foil?
LivingOnValium
Bluelighter
A-PVP is, hands down
Next in line would be A-PHP. I've never tried MDPHP though. A-PVP and A-PHP both vape really nicely on foil.
Jabberwocky
Frumious Bandersnatch
A-PhPp, A-PHP and A-PVP. A-PVP is the best.
I would recommend MD-PHP very much, it's much more euphoric than A-PhP and others.
I've done hexen, I think it's more intense - but in a different way.
When I did good shot of A-PhiP I felt like I can't finish sentences when I try to speak. It makes you super focused, but the focus is different. It makes you breath weirdly.
Do you know the feel when you get in a fight and after it you don't feel much like speaking? You're super focused but you are also aware in very weird way, like you're expecting something to happen and you really can't get hold of anything.
Having sex or masturbating is the only activity I enjoy when I do any pyro, anyways. But I'm just a weird perv.
F.U.B.A.R.
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Sounds like my kind of drugs...
axe battler
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It does FUBAR! Been a while since you've had 3fpm?
F.U.B.A.R.
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Yep. I'm eyeing up a few vendors now, but I just dont trust any of them...
Jabberwocky
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I would suggest A-PPP, A-PhPP, MD-PHP.
Those are ones that were reliable to get a while ago, as far as I remember.
A-PVP would be SUPER, but I think it has been banned so largely that finding good stuff would be super hard to get.
MDPV_Psychosis
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Ok, I will be trying this one sometime next week. Receiving a gram but only going to take out 100mg and then I will be physically separated from the other 900mg in such a way that I won't have access to it again for about a week or two.
Once that's accomplished I'll give experimenting a go with the 100mg. Plan is to only eat or snort small amounts but I can almost guarantee I'll start vaping huge amounts once it kicks in. I know myself pretty well, odds of using this one responsibly are pretty low.
If I can manage to use it sensibly then great, otherwise I'll probably split the remaining 900mg into like 3 bags and store it away for another time. I allow myself to go on a short ~24 hr binge once a year or so. So won't go to waste either way but I'd really like to be able to use it functionally
Once that's accomplished I'll give experimenting a go with the 100mg. Plan is to only eat or snort small amounts but I can almost guarantee I'll start vaping huge amounts once it kicks in. I know myself pretty well, odds of using this one responsibly are pretty low.
If I can manage to use it sensibly then great, otherwise I'll probably split the remaining 900mg into like 3 bags and store it away for another time. I allow myself to go on a short ~24 hr binge once a year or so. So won't go to waste either way but I'd really like to be able to use it functionally
Ok, I will be trying this one sometime next week. Receiving a gram but only going to take out 100mg and then I will be physically separated from the other 900mg in such a way that I won't have access to it again for about a week or two.
Once that's accomplished I'll give experimenting a go with the 100mg. Plan is to only eat or snort small amounts but I can almost guarantee I'll start vaping huge amounts once it kicks in. I know myself pretty well, odds of using this one responsibly are pretty low.
If I can manage to use it sensibly then great, otherwise I'll probably split the remaining 900mg into like 3 bags and store it away for another time. I allow myself to go on a short ~24 hr binge once a year or so. So won't go to waste either way but I'd really like to be able to use it functionally
Let us know how it goes.
Myself, i think i have resolved to not purchase some because I know where it goes. Also, I will find it impossible to not attempt to vape some, and im paranoid that vaped a-pcyp has fucked my lungs already.
Plus it will probably keep me up all night, which require me to use benzos, resulting in benzo rebound, etc.
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So is it less potent than other pyros or you just went that fast with it!? Bc for me I'm tweaked the fuck out using 1g of MDPV or a-PVP for like 3-4 days.
Many would say MDPV because it was their first pyro. Personally I found a-PVP to have a bit less side effects and very euphoric. a-PHP was almost indistinguishable from a-PVP other than a slight decrease in potency.
To those of you who have tried a-PHiP, how did it compare to a- PVP/PHP?
I'm thinking about allowing myself a gram of this. I was a PV head from hell but I did allow myself a g each of PVP and PHP when they came out. Didn't regret it. Was like dropping in on an old buddy.
Anyone tried this in an ecig yet? vaping pvp/php in vape pens is about the most hardcore down low way to get your crack fix I know of.
psynce of sound
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I found it nice IV, very similar to aphp etc.
Vaped was nice but edgy and compulsive af.
Snorted it was edgy lite. Strange experience.
Overall one of the more forgiving pyros out there and definitely worth a try imo.
Vaped was nice but edgy and compulsive af.
Snorted it was edgy lite. Strange experience.
Overall one of the more forgiving pyros out there and definitely worth a try imo.
MDPV_Psychosis
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What I received last week is sorta a tanish colored powder, not too unlike some batches of other pyrro compounds I've received over the years. Upon a closer inspection it seems to be tiny pink sand like grainy crystals but from further away it appears tan (almost bordering on an orange or brown color but not quite). Has the consistency of slightly moist clumpy sand.
There is no way in hell I will ever be able to use this one functionally/responsibly but I pretty much knew that already beforehand. Low oral or nasal doses just give me typical uncomfortable stimulant side effects without much of anything positive. So no good for me in small doses cause it just makes me anxious and feel crappy which often my mind thinks the 'solution' to is to take more. In larger doses it activates that certain special kind of hedonism associated with these pyrros, once this level is hit it's 'it's off to the races' where I'll continue until however much I have available is all used up (whether I want to or not, my higher brain functions don't seem to get much say in this decision in the moment)
It's kinda unpleasant to snort at first. Fairly strong burn and not so wonderful cum like taste and aroma that lingers around for quite awhile but I remember from before that after awhile you either just get conditioned/used to it or you actually start to really like it from the powerful association that develops.
I have decent stimulant tolerance (both perma tolerance and also from recent use) so I found this one takes a bit to get going. 30-40mg was, for me, barely just scratching the surface of feeling good. I suspect this would be a solid dose for somebody with stimulant exp but with no tolerance at the time, and maybe even too much for like a noob or someone extra sensitive. I think a solid one time dose of 50mg would probably do it for me but haven't tried it yet that high orally/nasally cause I know once I do I'll just go crazy with it.
I keep it somewhere far from where I live and I tend to go there once or twice a week or sometimes not at all for long stretches. So each time I've wanted to experiment, I would take out exactly how much I plan to use (first day I only took out 50mg for example). Then leave and not use what I took out until the next day when I'm home. There are some additional measures/restrictions in place so that I don't just drive out there and snatch the whole bag but I'd rather not get too detailed about that.
So this week I took out 300mg and set aside 24 hours so I could give this chem a proper run. IMO it's vapes well, seems to do so quickly without much fuss and produces a decent volume of white vapor. Tastes pretty much like other pyrros, I liked the taste when vaped whereas was kinda put off by the taste when snorted. It does require you to use low heat as it doesn't take much to overheat it but it's not as finicky about melting and vaporizing as some of the other more recent pyrros like a-PCYP for example. If done correctly you can vape pretty large amounts very quickly, so getting a powerful rush from this one is not hard to do.
It is hard for me to draw many meaning conclusions about this one since all of these pyrros bring me to the same place when I use them. So this one to me felt quite similar to all the others: Powerful rush, intense compulsion to redose, extreme horniness, etc.
What I liked about this one though is that it seems to have a short duration, at least for it's main effects as there some residual effects that go on for longer like with most stims. This was the only downside for me with MDPV (my favorite) it just lasted way too long which would be great if I dosed just once but terrible when you like to compulsively take redose after redose.
My last dose was a big one, over 100mg (120-150mg maybe?) loaded into an oil burner. I was really trying to see how far I could push this one so I tried to vape as much of it as possible in one go. I didn't get it all on that first try and I also overheated it a bit. The rush from this was very powerful and then I was thrown into pyrro chaos: hallucinations, voices, extreme paranoia, incredibly scatterbrained, etc. During the effects i actually kinda felt like I was on a psychedelic or cannabinoid. There was even some minor visual patterning happening on surfaces. This is not an unusual set of effects for me, it happens on all pyrros I've tried at crazy high doses. Some of these are inherit to its effects but some, like the visual patterning, may result because of some byproduct produced when overheated idk, come to think of it I think people who IV pyrros report similar experiences from large doses. Here I was very grateful for its shorter duration of effects, as this extra large dose started to wear down within an hour or so? Hard to say, time gets distorted for me on these binges.
I started around 4PM and finished the last of it around 7 or 8PM. Was able to sleep about 4-5 hours later but I did use 1mg of Bromazolam a couple hours earlier. Without it I probably would have needed another hour or two before sleeping however somebody new to stimulants would likely not be able to sleep for a long time due to residual stimulation (especially when binged like this)
I liked this one and also hated it, but this is exactly how I felt with all the others. Something I may do occasionally (like once or twice a year). This is decent pyrro in my opinion, just completely useless as a daily functional stimulant.
There is no way in hell I will ever be able to use this one functionally/responsibly but I pretty much knew that already beforehand. Low oral or nasal doses just give me typical uncomfortable stimulant side effects without much of anything positive. So no good for me in small doses cause it just makes me anxious and feel crappy which often my mind thinks the 'solution' to is to take more. In larger doses it activates that certain special kind of hedonism associated with these pyrros, once this level is hit it's 'it's off to the races' where I'll continue until however much I have available is all used up (whether I want to or not, my higher brain functions don't seem to get much say in this decision in the moment)
It's kinda unpleasant to snort at first. Fairly strong burn and not so wonderful cum like taste and aroma that lingers around for quite awhile but I remember from before that after awhile you either just get conditioned/used to it or you actually start to really like it from the powerful association that develops.
I have decent stimulant tolerance (both perma tolerance and also from recent use) so I found this one takes a bit to get going. 30-40mg was, for me, barely just scratching the surface of feeling good. I suspect this would be a solid dose for somebody with stimulant exp but with no tolerance at the time, and maybe even too much for like a noob or someone extra sensitive. I think a solid one time dose of 50mg would probably do it for me but haven't tried it yet that high orally/nasally cause I know once I do I'll just go crazy with it.
I keep it somewhere far from where I live and I tend to go there once or twice a week or sometimes not at all for long stretches. So each time I've wanted to experiment, I would take out exactly how much I plan to use (first day I only took out 50mg for example). Then leave and not use what I took out until the next day when I'm home. There are some additional measures/restrictions in place so that I don't just drive out there and snatch the whole bag but I'd rather not get too detailed about that.
So this week I took out 300mg and set aside 24 hours so I could give this chem a proper run. IMO it's vapes well, seems to do so quickly without much fuss and produces a decent volume of white vapor. Tastes pretty much like other pyrros, I liked the taste when vaped whereas was kinda put off by the taste when snorted. It does require you to use low heat as it doesn't take much to overheat it but it's not as finicky about melting and vaporizing as some of the other more recent pyrros like a-PCYP for example. If done correctly you can vape pretty large amounts very quickly, so getting a powerful rush from this one is not hard to do.
It is hard for me to draw many meaning conclusions about this one since all of these pyrros bring me to the same place when I use them. So this one to me felt quite similar to all the others: Powerful rush, intense compulsion to redose, extreme horniness, etc.
What I liked about this one though is that it seems to have a short duration, at least for it's main effects as there some residual effects that go on for longer like with most stims. This was the only downside for me with MDPV (my favorite) it just lasted way too long which would be great if I dosed just once but terrible when you like to compulsively take redose after redose.
My last dose was a big one, over 100mg (120-150mg maybe?) loaded into an oil burner. I was really trying to see how far I could push this one so I tried to vape as much of it as possible in one go. I didn't get it all on that first try and I also overheated it a bit. The rush from this was very powerful and then I was thrown into pyrro chaos: hallucinations, voices, extreme paranoia, incredibly scatterbrained, etc. During the effects i actually kinda felt like I was on a psychedelic or cannabinoid. There was even some minor visual patterning happening on surfaces. This is not an unusual set of effects for me, it happens on all pyrros I've tried at crazy high doses. Some of these are inherit to its effects but some, like the visual patterning, may result because of some byproduct produced when overheated idk, come to think of it I think people who IV pyrros report similar experiences from large doses. Here I was very grateful for its shorter duration of effects, as this extra large dose started to wear down within an hour or so? Hard to say, time gets distorted for me on these binges.
I started around 4PM and finished the last of it around 7 or 8PM. Was able to sleep about 4-5 hours later but I did use 1mg of Bromazolam a couple hours earlier. Without it I probably would have needed another hour or two before sleeping however somebody new to stimulants would likely not be able to sleep for a long time due to residual stimulation (especially when binged like this)
I liked this one and also hated it, but this is exactly how I felt with all the others. Something I may do occasionally (like once or twice a year). This is decent pyrro in my opinion, just completely useless as a daily functional stimulant.
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MDPV_Psychosis
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Against my better judgement I've been still experimenting with this one here and there over the last week as opposed to just saving what I have left for a planned future binge.
Pyrros for me tend to have heavy side effects vs actual usable stimulation to be worthwhile as functional stimulants (plus they often lead to reckless redosing and porn sessions). This has been true for all the ones I've tried over the years; they can provide pretty strong stimulation but they often do so at the cost of too much anxiety, high bp, sweating, and in too large of doses paranoia. Then the come down is even more uncomfortable sometimes bordering on unbearable. All these symptoms make it undesirable for me to use them functionally.
Anytime I started using these the first day or so is horrible because of these side effects. Once a bit of tolerance and acclimation happens these side effects tend to mellow out and the more positive aspects shine through. MDPV, for example, was usually pretty awful for the first day but days 2-4 were a lot better until things went downhill on days 5+ from lack of enough sleep, nutrition, etc.
a-PHiP seems to work similarly with respect to improving once some tolerance has set. Once I had used a few times over a couple days the effects really started to shine and side effects and any come down faded away. Found I could use small amounts a few times throughout the day while staying busy and actually enjoy it. So I'd like to change my opinion that this one can be used for functional purposes but with the understanding that it's quite likely to go off the rails especially for those prone to abusing stims. As a matter of fact, until one knows how they respond they should just assume that it'll end up being a reckless binge and plan accordingly.
I've even managed to vape small amounts here and there without launching myself into pyrro crazy town. Very smooth to vape, tastes surprisingly smooth and mild which is odd because the powder when tasted directly on the tongue is strong and unpleasant.
Once some tolerance has developed these small doses tend not to last very long. Feels like the majority of the effects wear off after 20-30 minutes. Found I can sleep only a couple hours after the last dose as long as I didn't get reckless with it. For somebody who has no stimulant tolerance: they should expect the effects to last longer as residual stimulation will likely be felt for quite awhile. Once adapted this isn't so much an issue anymore, at least for me. So sleep hasn't been an issue at night and I haven't had too many problems with stopping whenever I've decided to. Which is odd, usually I won't stop until the bag is empty, this one is a bit gentler in that sense.
Pyrros for me tend to have heavy side effects vs actual usable stimulation to be worthwhile as functional stimulants (plus they often lead to reckless redosing and porn sessions). This has been true for all the ones I've tried over the years; they can provide pretty strong stimulation but they often do so at the cost of too much anxiety, high bp, sweating, and in too large of doses paranoia. Then the come down is even more uncomfortable sometimes bordering on unbearable. All these symptoms make it undesirable for me to use them functionally.
Anytime I started using these the first day or so is horrible because of these side effects. Once a bit of tolerance and acclimation happens these side effects tend to mellow out and the more positive aspects shine through. MDPV, for example, was usually pretty awful for the first day but days 2-4 were a lot better until things went downhill on days 5+ from lack of enough sleep, nutrition, etc.
a-PHiP seems to work similarly with respect to improving once some tolerance has set. Once I had used a few times over a couple days the effects really started to shine and side effects and any come down faded away. Found I could use small amounts a few times throughout the day while staying busy and actually enjoy it. So I'd like to change my opinion that this one can be used for functional purposes but with the understanding that it's quite likely to go off the rails especially for those prone to abusing stims. As a matter of fact, until one knows how they respond they should just assume that it'll end up being a reckless binge and plan accordingly.
I've even managed to vape small amounts here and there without launching myself into pyrro crazy town. Very smooth to vape, tastes surprisingly smooth and mild which is odd because the powder when tasted directly on the tongue is strong and unpleasant.
Once some tolerance has developed these small doses tend not to last very long. Feels like the majority of the effects wear off after 20-30 minutes. Found I can sleep only a couple hours after the last dose as long as I didn't get reckless with it. For somebody who has no stimulant tolerance: they should expect the effects to last longer as residual stimulation will likely be felt for quite awhile. Once adapted this isn't so much an issue anymore, at least for me. So sleep hasn't been an issue at night and I haven't had too many problems with stopping whenever I've decided to. Which is odd, usually I won't stop until the bag is empty, this one is a bit gentler in that sense.
How does it compare to hexen?
From what i gather this feels like a true pyrro (unlike like a-pcyp).
I wish i could order like 100mg. Cant be trusted with a gram of something like that.
MDPV_Psychosis
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Havent tried hexen, I was on my stimulant hiatus when it was widely available and popular, since coming back I haven't stumbled across it from anywhere I'd be willing to risk ordering from. I wish I could compare it to a-pcyp, I tried that one but barely only used it in a few small doses then decided to flush it, I didn't get a proper feel for it sadly.
It is very much like a true pyrro to me, maybe just a tad bit... softer? It's been a long time since I've had any of them (MDPV, apvp, aphp etc) but it is for the most part quite similar, just with it's on own unique twist. I can't remember exactly what aphp was like specifically as it was one I have had little exp with but I wanna say it is fairly similar to it or at least close enough to give you a decent approximation (if you've ever had it that is) just mostly noteably weaker mg to mg and perhaps a bit shorter duration as well.
If you found that you weren't able to trust yourself with any of those pyrros then in all likelihood the same will apply here, I'm finding it only marginally more controllable and honestly I'm not sure yet if maybe I'm just deluding myself there. After taking a hit I still struggle with not immediately going in for more but I'm finding it easier to say no then I did with other pyrros if I find something to do for a short while after taking a hit.
However if I go nuts, like taking a massive hit or take too many doses too close together then all bets are off, once I go over a certain threshold I loose the battle completely and I wont, can't and/or don't want to stop until it's gone.
It is very much like a true pyrro to me, maybe just a tad bit... softer? It's been a long time since I've had any of them (MDPV, apvp, aphp etc) but it is for the most part quite similar, just with it's on own unique twist. I can't remember exactly what aphp was like specifically as it was one I have had little exp with but I wanna say it is fairly similar to it or at least close enough to give you a decent approximation (if you've ever had it that is) just mostly noteably weaker mg to mg and perhaps a bit shorter duration as well.
If you found that you weren't able to trust yourself with any of those pyrros then in all likelihood the same will apply here, I'm finding it only marginally more controllable and honestly I'm not sure yet if maybe I'm just deluding myself there. After taking a hit I still struggle with not immediately going in for more but I'm finding it easier to say no then I did with other pyrros if I find something to do for a short while after taking a hit.
However if I go nuts, like taking a massive hit or take too many doses too close together then all bets are off, once I go over a certain threshold I loose the battle completely and I wont, can't and/or don't want to stop until it's gone.
Vagabond696
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I'm getting 100mg this week, since it's been a while. Even bought a fresh pipe to REALLY treat myself and enjoy it.
Looks like my new time lock safe will be put to good usage, haha.
Looks like my new time lock safe will be put to good usage, haha.
MDPV_Psychosis
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Nice, not sure how you managed to only get 100mg unless you're just getting some off a friend or as a small sample sent along with a larger order. As negro and I have already lamented, it's a shame that vendors aren't offering smaller amounts like 250mg. They could charge just a bit less than the price for a full gram so that it would be worthwhile enough for them to send such a small amount and I would be willing to pay it. Sure it's a waste of money but it's much safer then relying on myself to handle a full gram responsibly.
I hope it goes well. A time lock safe would not be sufficient to stop me when on stims if I was determined enough, I wish they made a heavier duty version then the ones I've seen offered. But I think you'll be ok, 100mg should be enough for you to get a good feel for it if vaping but not so much that you can get yourself into too much trouble beyond a sleepless night or two.
I hope it goes well. A time lock safe would not be sufficient to stop me when on stims if I was determined enough, I wish they made a heavier duty version then the ones I've seen offered. But I think you'll be ok, 100mg should be enough for you to get a good feel for it if vaping but not so much that you can get yourself into too much trouble beyond a sleepless night or two.