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Police Brutality Thread

^ yeah it seems like BS

PriestTheyCalledHim said:
The jury members were basically all doxxxed and identified by the US media and twitter/social media, and other people were doxxxed and threatened as well.

www.twincities.com

Former California home of Derek Chauvin trial witness vandalized with pig’s head, blood

“It appears the suspects in this vandalism were targeting Mr. Brodd for his testimony,” the Santa Rosa Police Department said.
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If that were true I'd be able to get some sort of an idea who they were by searching for just a few key words. When in reality all that does is bring up a bunch of hits from sites like AP, NPR, NY Post etc that recounts some vague stats regarding the jurors gender, race etc. (Good luck finding out who "multi/mixed race woman 40s" is). After adding "dox" in with the other keywords, I got some links to political websites which all seem to be drawing people's attention to one CBS clip in particular...which contains absolutely nothing useful, outside of tidbits like "one of the jurors used to live in Brooklyn!" Seems like a far cry from "doxxing"

And then we have a case of witness getting a pig's head delivered to his home in California except...he didn't live there anymore?
 
birdup.snaildown said:
@Atelier3

Are there legal cases that are so huge they eclipse themselves and (potentially) influence jurors?
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Sure: but I was simply addressing the lying/hyperbole/exageration/misunderstanding evinced by @PriestTheyCalledHim about jurors being doxxed. Which one it is depends on how charitable you feel. I’m actually inclined towards wilfully and knowingly spreading misinformation - but I’m a hard judge and may be wrong.

Ideally jurors would be sequestered very early. In fact they used to be before a 24/7 newscycle became a thing and made ignorance impossible.

That said, there should be a supposition that jurors are reasonably capable of being rational and following both argument and evidence as well as judicial instructions. Although many studies show jurors still have different kinds of bias, Chauvin’s team had the chance to try and get ones who’s biases would support their case.

At the end of the day I’m a proponent of demonstrative justice (assuming guilt). The idea that 12 reasonable people can decide certain behaviour is guilty is not a problem for me. In fact ‘reasonable’ is baked into the system.
 
dalpat077 said:
Oh wow. Hot off the press!

Talk about bad timing though.





www.dallasnews.com

Former Dallas cop Amber Guyger asking appellate court to toss murder conviction for killing Botham Jean

Lawyers for former Dallas police officer Amber Guyger will make their case Tuesday before a panel of appellate justices to toss her murder conviction for...
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I remember this case. She went into someone’s home and killed them. Someone like that shouldn’t have a firearm in the first place. I hope she doesn’t get a reduced sentence, but it is Texas.
 
That Amber Guyger case was insane. She went into someone else's home and shot them dead. Then claimed she thought it was her home. Even if she really did think it was her home, that's 100% on her and she should face consequences. Just because she's a cop has no bearing on her breaking into someone's home and killing them, whether intentional or not.
 
Xorkoth said:
That Amber Guyger case was insane. She went into someone else's home and shot them dead. Then claimed she thought it was her home. Even if she really did think it was her home, that's 100% on her and she should face consequences. Just because she's a cop has no bearing on her breaking into someone's home and killing them, whether intentional or not.
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It really was. At least there was something done in that case and she didn't totally get away with it. Really hope her appeal is unsuccessful.

It's like some people believe there are different laws for police and for regular people 🧐
 
This maybe needs its own thread, as it won't just apply to police brutality protests, so if it derails maybe we can split off. But after seeing journalists arrested on live TV, anonymous federal mercenary contractors deployed to brutalized protesters, legislation like this passed worldwide (think, greece), and these sorts of things especially legalized murder, I think we are headed into/being prepared for total fascism https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/04/26/opinions/laws-target-peaceful-protesters-eidelman/index.html
 
I was gonna ask what some of the right leaning people think about some of the new state laws regarding right to assembly. Specifically, some laws passed that make it punishable by up to 5 years for participating (even peacefully) in demonstrations that they decide are being done by the wrong groups, and the law where people who hit other people with their cars during protests will not be legally or civilly responsible if it was "an accident". To me it's a direct assault on the bill of rights and an attempt to squash protesting.
 
PriestTheyCalledHim said:
It is super easy for anyone to blend in and avoid police in NYC even during the peak of stop and frisk. If you are not dressed like a thug, or do not look as though you stick out or are drawing attention to yourself, are not in slums or places people go only to buy hard drugs-or are not dressed like you sell dope and crack on a streetcorner, you will be fine.
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So your advice is: don't be black, don't wear what black people wear, don't live where black people live.
 
Xorkoth said:
I was gonna ask what some of the right leaning people think about some of the new state laws regarding right to assembly. Specifically, some laws passed that make it punishable by up to 5 years for participating (even peacefully) in demonstrations that they decide are being done by the wrong groups, and the law where people who hit other people with their cars during protests will not be legally or civilly responsible if it was "an accident". To me it's a direct assault on the bill of rights and an attempt to squash protesting.
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I think it's a great pity (the new state laws to which you refer) as it pertains to the USA.
 
So much for Guyger's Mia Culpa following her conviction when she embraced the brother of Mr Jean who was unbelievably wonderful and forgiving. Now that little performance has been forgotten along with her hateful and racist social media history she is back to playing the victim? I am sorry but the insincerity of many of the actors involved in both these crimes and the subsequent discussions are making me sick at this point.
 
Burnt Offerings said:
If that were true
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i'd say you are wasting your time here @Burnt Offerings ...

read back through the thread. the same poster knows more about floyd's cause of death than two doctors who performed autopsies on the body, one of whom was the county medical examiner.

he's also intimate with the routes of administration george floyd used for various drugs and seems curiously obsessed with the idea that floyd administered a cocktail of drugs anally.

and he knows more about the state of mind and motivation of the jury - who heard all the evidence and returned the guilty verdicts - than the jury members themselves.

you're dealing with some KIND of omniscient expert i fear...

:)

alasdair
 
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mal3volent said:
So your advice is: don't be black, don't wear what black people wear, don't live where black people live.
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It has to do with looking like you have drugs, sell drugs, etc.

Dominicans with their incorrect pidgen Spanish and doo-rags are also included.

I have met East Asians who had cornrows, wore FUBU, and basically were thugs saying things like 'Yo n_____a what up? Yoou got no game dawg!'

Now picture the opposite, a preppie East Asian guy on his way to work, or university classes. Who is more likely to get stopped and frisked by police?
 
PriestTheyCalledHim said:
It has to do with looking like you have drugs, sell drugs, etc.

Dominicans with their incorrect pidgen Spanish and doo-rags are also included.

I have met East Asians who had cornrows, wore FUBU, and basically were thugs saying things like 'Yo n_____a what up? Yoou got no game dawg!'

Now picture the opposite, a preppie East Asian guy on his way to work, or university classes. Who is more likely to get stopped and frisked by police?
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That’s a problem with the cops, not with the people getting stopped. You just endorsed racial profiling. Which by definition is racist.
 
Atelier3 said:
That’s a problem with the cops, not with the people getting stopped. You just endorsed racial profiling. Which by definition is racist.
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It is not racial profiling, it is true that this happens based on how people are dressed, carry themselves, etc. that are not necessarily about race but are about class maybe, I suppose? Or maybe it is police in a large city and quotas for arrests or searches?

If you stick out or are dressed like you would be on a corner selling drugs, or if you are in a neighborhood or section of a city where people go just to buy, sell, or openly use hard drugs do not be surprised when you attract the attention of police.

Do not carry drugs, or if you do this, carry small amounts you can hide or throw away if you have to. ;)
 
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Hey look. An anonymous juror in Officer Chauvin's trial! 🤣

That didn't last long now did it. And I doubt very much that he contacted all of the networks offering up his insights. You bet your ass they looked him up to ask him if he'd be prepared to go on camera and be interviewed.

Now I'm sorry I didn't post here i.e. probably typed and then deleted no less than ten posts on a whole bunch of shit here since my last post. One point that I made, and am now finally making, is that anybody that thought for one minute that the identities of the jurors would remain a state secret is using some bad shit and way too much of it to too. You think the jurors didn't know that they'd eventually be identified no matter what? And, well, here we are. In the flesh. And 11 to go.

Conversely of course: had they found Officer Chauvin not guilty on any single one of the charges (let alone acquitted him): they'd not have been able to find this dude for dust nor for love nor money.


 
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While I'm here!

Damn. This dude can take punishment! No less than 10 shots some headlines say! Damn. Of course: that's not true.


News:




Body cam (although as somebody pointed out: where's the usual timestamp and/or timecode on these particular body cam videos):




But wait there's more i.e. actual 911 call:

 
dalpat077 said:
Hey look. An anonymous juror in Officer Chauvin's trial! 🤣

That didn't last long now did it. And I doubt very much that he contacted all of the networks offering up his insights. You bet your ass they looked him up to ask him if he'd be prepared to go on camera and be interviewed.

Now I'm sorry I didn't post here i.e. probably typed and then deleted no less than ten posts on a whole bunch of shit here since my last post. One point that I made, and am now finally making, is that anybody that thought for one minute that the identities of the jurors would remain a state secret is using some bad shit and way too much of it to too. You think the jurors didn't know that they'd eventually be identified no matter what? And, well, here we are. In the flesh. And 11 to go.

Conversely of course: had they found Officer Chauvin not guilty on any single one of the charges (let alone acquitted him): they'd not have been able to find this dude for dust nor for love nor money.


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I don't see what's wrong with this, since the trial is over. Though if I were that guy I wouldn't want to show my face, given how intense the whole thing is. I imagine he will get death threats/harrassment from some types.
 
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