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Police Brutality Thread

LordOfThisWorld said:
Go try starting shit with someone else.

That's what Obama stands for:

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Big
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LordOfThisWorld said:
Go try starting shit with someone else.

That's what Obama stands for:

One
Big
Ass
Mistake
America
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Im not trying to start shit with you or anyone else. I guess you cant refute anything I said. Lmfao. Obama stands for One Big Ass Mistake America...lmao do Trump now.
 
Atelier3 said:
When American conservatives or libertarians label Democrat policy proposals ‘communist’ or describe administrative approaches as ‘Marxist’ - you can guarantee that it’s something Australia already does. Usually very well and to a greater extent than the US policy proposal in question suggests anyway. So don’t leave us out.
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I wish America would be like Australia. Its funny bc the conservatives here try to call politicians like Bernie Sanders or Alexandria Ocasio Cortez "radical leftists" and socialists/communists. In reality, on the global political spectrum they are damn near center, like a smidge left of center. Conservatives who drank the Trump koolaid call Biden socialist and radical left", on the global political spectrum he would be RIGHT of center.
 
lol I know right? Someone on here said (I am probably paraphrasing slightly) that "Biden is the most communist president this country will ever see" when he got elected. Umm... no. We've just shifted so far right that we actually have people thinking Biden is even left at all. Let alone socialist or communist. Aside from his official stance on some modern hot-button Democrat social issues, Biden looks like an old-school conservative.
 
PriestTheyCalledHim said:
The Netherlands, Belgium, Luxembourg, Sweden, Denmark, Norway, Iceland, and Finland are not socialist, Marxist, or Communist at all. They are all very Capitalist. Switzerland is not Socialist, communist, or Marxist either.

reason.com

Sweden Isn't Socialist

In international economic-freedom comparisons, Sweden often earns a higher ranking than the U.S.
reason.com reason.com
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And literally NO Americans are advocating to become Socialist. They are advocating for the implementation of democratic socialist programs, which is exactly what all those countries I listed have!!! Not one single American politician is advocating for the end of capitalism or the free market. They are advocating for social safety nets.

en.m.wikipedia.org

Nordic model - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org en.m.wikipedia.org

This is what so-called Socialists in American are advocating for. Unfortunately conservatives keep voting for our own worst interest. Unless you are wealthy, conservative policies wont benefit you. An ever widening wealth gap and shrinking middle class!
 
LordOfThisWorld said:
Because he was Black if he were White, I’d call him the White Giant, no racism just calling it what it is, don’t call me a racist, cause I’m not, you’re just trying to label me for others to look at me that way, which is bullshit, you’re taking the easy way out.
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I seriously doubt if he was white you would have said "he had to restrain a giant white guy!", even if Chauvin had been black.
 
PriestTheyCalledHim said:
I was in NYC both long before and during the peak of stop and frisk. It never happened to me or any of my friends, associates, co-workers, etc. not even when we would walk around the city all fucked up day and night.
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So what? What happened to you or your friends has no bearing on how the policy was carried out or the scope of the policy, which are matters of public record
 
Burnt Offerings said:
So what? What happened to you or your friends has no bearing on how the policy was carried out or the scope of the policy, which are matters of public record
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Officer Chauvin did everything within his Police rights and tactics when a criminal resists arrest the defense lawyer showed that. The way this case was handled and the showing of the jurors names and races, was completely uncalled for I believe they even showed their faces, how do you think they’re going to vote, not guilty?

Let’s get serious.
 
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LordOfThisWorld said:
Officer Chauvin did everything within his Police rights and tactics when a criminal resists arrest the defense lawyer showed that. The way this case was handled and the showing of the jurors names and races, was completely uncalled for I believe they even showed there faces, how do you think they’re going to vote, not guilty?

Let’s get serious.
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How many cops does it take to change a lightbulb? None, they just beat the room for being black.
 
You say he did nothing wrong, a jury thought otherwise.

You seem to be implying that this jury was somehow intimidated or threatened, but I haven't seen any convincing evidence of that...if you have some feel free to present it. So far the interpretations regarding the decision seem to be that either 1) the twelve jurors were swayed by propaganda against the police and the state installed twelve anti-cop ideologues in there to judge poor Derek Chauvin, or 2) they knew that if they didn't convict the mob was going to show up on their doorstep with pitchforks and torches while burning down all of Minneapolis.

Were the political circumstances relevant. Uh, yeah, obviously, I don't know how someone could've experienced the last year and looked at a case this high-profile and determine that there wasn't a strong political element involved, I mentioned that in my very first post in this thread in fact. But I haven't seen any proof that anyone's vote in the jury box was coerced...and I know that it threatens the preferred narrative of poor Chauvin being victimized by this mean jury, despite having done nothing wrong (put him back on the force garshdarnit!), but maybe people should respect the ability of people to come to a conclusion (based upon the evidence we all saw during this televised trial) and possess agency beyond what they'd have after being indoctrinated or threatened? :)
 
Burnt Offerings said:
You say he did nothing wrong, a jury thought otherwise.

You seem to be implying that this jury was somehow intimidated or threatened, but I haven't seen any convincing evidence of that...if you have some feel free to present it. So far the interpretations regarding the decision seem to be that either 1) the twelve jurors were swayed by propaganda against the police and the state installed twelve anti-cop ideologues in there to judge poor Derek Chauvin, or 2) they knew that if they didn't convict the mob was going to show up on their doorstep with pitchforks and torches while burning down all of Minneapolis.

Were the political circumstances relevant. Uh, yeah, obviously, I don't know how someone could've experienced the last year and looked at a case this high-profile and determine that there wasn't a strong political element involved, I mentioned that in my very first post in this thread in fact. But I haven't seen any proof that anyone's vote in the jury box was coerced...and I know that it threatens the preferred narrative of poor Chauvin being victimized by this mean jury, despite having done nothing wrong (put him back on the force garshdarnit!), but maybe people should respect the ability of people to come to a conclusion (based upon the evidence we all saw during this televised trial) and possess agency beyond what they'd have after being indoctrinated or threatened? :)
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The jury members were basically all doxxxed and identified by the US media and twitter/social media, and other people were doxxxed and threatened as well.

www.twincities.com

Former California home of Derek Chauvin trial witness vandalized with pig’s head, blood

“It appears the suspects in this vandalism were targeting Mr. Brodd for his testimony,” the Santa Rosa Police Department said.
www.twincities.com www.twincities.com
 
Burnt Offerings said:
So what? What happened to you or your friends has no bearing on how the policy was carried out or the scope of the policy, which are matters of public record
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It is super easy for anyone to blend in and avoid police in NYC even during the peak of stop and frisk. If you are not dressed like a thug, or do not look as though you stick out or are drawing attention to yourself, are not in slums or places people go only to buy hard drugs-or are not dressed like you sell dope and crack on a streetcorner, you will be fine.
 
birdup.snaildown said:
1. No, I didn't read it as racist.
2. All right wing people aren't racist. That's crazy.

Men are more likely to attack me than women. As a result, I perceive the potential threat of men/women differently. I also perceive the potential threat of domestic cats differently to dogs.

Perhaps that is racist.

I find a lot of the anti-Chauvin stuff (from the left) on here racist. The assumption that he is racist - because he's a white cop - is racist. Now, I'm not saying that most contributors on the left are guilty of this. Just a few... But nobody is willing to engage in an honest deconstruction of this situation.

The logic presented is that black people are being shot disproportionately. I have mentioned at least three times now the fact that men are shot disproportionately. Perhaps you guys are avoiding this argument because you're afraid of engaging with racism... but, again, that is racist because (at the end of the day) white people end up being falsely accused of racism.

Priest wasn't being very sensitive with his Fentanyl Floyd comments, but I don't recall them being inherently racist. I'd have to look again. Same thing applies to dalpat's angel comments.

Men commit crimes disproportionately to women. Men are shot by police disproportionately. So is there systemic sexism? If not, why not?

George Floyd was a piece of shit. He was a thug and a terrible father. People defend him in the name of substance abuse, but that is no excuse when you have kids. The world is better off without him. There's nothing racist about any of that. If he was white, I'd feel exactly the same way.
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Exactly.
 
denver.cbslocal.com

'Did You Hear That Pop?': New Jailhouse Video Allegedly Records Loveland Officer Recounting Forceful Arrest Of 73-Year-Old With Dementia

Newly released jail security footage obtained by CBS4 allegedly shows a Loveland police officer recounting the moment he felt a 73-year-old's shoulder "pop" during an arrest.
denver.cbslocal.com denver.cbslocal.com

Cop breaks and dislocates a 73 year old woman with dementia's shoulder less than a minute after getting out of his car. Handcuffs and binds her legs. Fails to obtain medical treatment. Later admits on video he knew he'd injured her and that he suspected she had dementia. Laughs about injuring her with a group of other officers. Admits on video that he loved re-watching the incident. Thinks it was a great arrest. Dismisses the concerns of the assisting officer. Handcuffs her to a bench for six hours. All over $14 worth of shoplifting at Walmart, charges which had to be dropped because it was a symptom of her dementia.

Clearly this officer was genuinely afraid of the threat posed by the tiny 73 year old woman and this use of force was entirely appropriate.

#Supporttheblueline
 
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