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Television The Simpsons

How would people here periodize the Simpsons? I will posit that it was good, then bad, then good again (and perhaps now bad again, I'm not sure). Someone should fill this in with additional detail.

ebola
 
it'd be great if you got the Bumblebee Man when his house falls down on him and that Chihuahua is left barking on the rubble.

It's a bit odd seeing him without his suit.

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specifically 0:17 to the end.

You got it . . . soon-ish.

How about Homer's mental image while trying to "think unsexy thoughts!"
I believe it was Barney Gumble in a bikini, swaying around and humming a tune, then belching.

Sorry, mate. It's been done. Like Homer's psychedelic trip that I posted earlier, a lot of stuff you can already find through a quick Google image search.

those aren't the vids i'm looking for, and i can't even view that second one :(

It's Conan O'Brien hosting a talk with 4 Simpsons writers from way back when. I love that kinda stuff, personally.

How would people here periodize the Simpsons? I will posit that it was good, then bad, then good again (and perhaps now bad again, I'm not sure). Someone should fill this in with additional detail.

ebola

Okay, you asked for it . . .

The golden years, arguably, were seasons 2-8. You can't find a single bad episode. The first season was decent, but they still were working out character models, along with other animation tweaks, and the voice actors were still evolving their roles. By season three everything really clicked and they were firing on all cylinders.

The Simpsons could probably best be divided into 'showrunner' eras. The first were creators Matt Groening/Sam Simon/James L Brooks who had previous sitcom experience they brought over so it was all very real and avoided being too cartoony, so to speak. When Al Jean & Mike Reiss took over as showrunners during the third & fourth seasons, the show had it's best and classic episodes, imo. It still held that 'real' and grounded feeling where the show relied more on plot and character-driven emotions. David Silverman and the rest of the animation crew hit their stride.

Then Dave Mirkin took over. Some argue this was when the decline began, but I disagree. What did happen was crazy shit started becoming more common, like Homer going into space and other general whacky-ness. The Simpsons had always been slightly whimsical but Mirkin ramped it up. I enjoy the Mirkin seasons, if only because they include his very dark sense of humor as well and I dig it.

Josh Weinstein & Bill Oakley took over, and being huge Simpsons nerds, came in with a game plan from a fan's perspective. They brought back the show to it's emotional roots and along with pushing the show conceptually, they wanted to explore some of Springfield's denizens pasts. Aside from doing episodes like 22 Short Films About Springfield, which no one working on the show before would have done, they did controversial things like break canon by saying Seymour Skinner was actually a fake this whole time. That's another moment people point out as the showing having jumped the shark.

Mike Scully became show runner for the ninth season and I'll just say the show went downhill and the golden era faded away. Homer became incredibly stupid, crafty plotlines were replaced by cheap jokes and cutaway gags, and great episodes became the exception rather than the norm. It's been said his three seasons running the show killed the Simpsons, and while I do think it's a bit harsh and over-generalized, it's hard to defend against. Al Jean has been showrunner since then and I don't know how the show is because I stopped giving a fuck.

/nerd
 
Well done! Someone more masochistic will have to fill in what's been going on with the mid to late period work. . .

Sorry, mate. It's been done.

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ebola
 
excellent write up.

there was some episode during the dark days which were so bad, i theorised at the time they were intentionally so. fox knew it was relying too heavily on the weight of the old show, and were taking active steps to push viewers to their other programs.

they were really painful to watch
 
bump. I tried to make these gifs synch up. They do so perfectly on my computer but it's hit or miss on the interwebs. Oh whale.

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It's probably been mentioned a bazillion times already but season one through like 10 or 11 are a masterpiece of comedy.

The new seasons are--OK. After a certain season the magic was just gone. It's still entertaining but I'm not going to want to own any of the current seasons on DVD and rewatch them a hundred times.
 
New episode on tonight.. Been hearing rumors of krusty dying.. But anything before season 10 my fave to hard to pick one got a million simpson memories in my head. Best show ever!! Even still although its kinda crappy..
 
New episode on tonight.. Been hearing rumors of krusty dying.. But anything before season 10 my fave to hard to pick one got a million simpson memories in my head. Best show ever!! Even still although its kinda crappy..

Hehe yeah I just watched it. Wont spoil for those that haven't seen it. That part at the start was great.

I also saw the Family guy / Simspons episode the other day and thought it was awesome, lots of funny bits.
 
The chicken fight was overcooked - it went for twenty minutes & I fast-forwarded past the first 5 mins
 
Holy shit, this show has gone downhill.

Last 3 episodes:

S32E15 - Homer grows up in the 90s listening to hip-hop. Apparently Homer is Bart now.

S32E16 - Todd Flanders is born. Despite Todd being the same age as Lisa throughout the entire show, apparently she was a toddler when he was a born. Not sure how that works.

S32E17 - Marge and Sarah Wiggum (Ralph's mother) steal a diamond. Sarah bears no resemblance whatsoever to her former self. In this episode, she's a sexy badass that drinks straight liquor. At the end of the episode, Marge pushes a woman down a flight of stairs.

...

After 701 episodes, I think it's time for me to stop watching.
 
Holy shit, this show has gone downhill.

Last 3 episodes:

S32E15 - Homer grows up in the 90s listening to hip-hop. Apparently Homer is Bart now.

S32E16 - Todd Flanders is born. Despite Todd being the same age as Lisa throughout the entire show, apparently she was a toddler when he was a born. Not sure how that works.

S32E17 - Marge and Sarah Wiggum (Ralph's mother) steal a diamond. Sarah bears no resemblance whatsoever to her former self. In this episode, she's a sexy badass that drinks straight liquor. At the end of the episode, Marge pushes a woman down a flight of stairs.

...

After 701 episodes, I think it's time for me to stop watching.
Season 32?!

I didn't know this still existed, it was bad after Season 12.
How the fuck are they still making money?!
 
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