☮ Social ☮ PD Social Tripping Thread: Tripping Past 2020

[Buzz Lightbeer]

A lot of people actually say that DPT is made for dissos. Ketamine + DPT is considered by many to be one of the "holy grails" of psychedelic experiences.

Maybe, probably in terms of effects.
I found that DPT was all about being reduced to your most pure human form.

Stimulating dissos go against that, but I mean, just my opinion, no judging here. Will probably be great either way :D

 

[Deleted member 521610]

whats the strongest visuals weed can give you people.

I see to be able to achieve nearly into the 150 ug + peak range when smoking now it can get scary if i let it creep up onto me and not focus.

 

[psy997]

My fucking jaw. I don't think I've ever experienced jaw pains like this. At least, not that I can remember. I really haven't taken more than tiny doses of amphetamine, or rolled on good MDMA, for years. Probably six years for amphetamine above 10mg, and I don't remember the last time I had my jaw hurting from empathogens...

Maybe, probably in terms of effects.
I found that DPT was all about being reduced to your most pure human form.

Stimulating dissos go against that, but I mean, just my opinion, no judging here. Will probably be great either way :D

I totally agree about DPT deconstructing down to the most basic of forms. It was not a comfortable experience for me, at all, though. I'm still working through what happened on my DPT trip, actually

 

[Buzz Lightbeer]

My fucking jaw. I don't think I've ever experienced jaw pains like this. At least, not that I can remember. I really haven't taken more than tiny doses of amphetamine, or rolled on good MDMA, for years. Probably six years for amphetamine above 10mg, and I don't remember the last time I had my jaw hurting from empathogens...



I totally agree about DPT deconstructing down to the most basic of forms. It was not a comfortable experience for me, at all, though. I'm still working through what happened on my DPT trip, actually

Weird from such low doses no?
I never have jaw issues, a friend of mine her jaw was absolutely locked once, surprised here teeth survived. What a sight that was :S

Do you have the white 5-MAPB? I have both white and brown, big difference in effects, as well as taste. I like the drug but never really understood peoples love for it.

 

[Xorkoth]

whats the strongest visuals weed can give you people.

I see to be able to achieve nearly into the 150 ug + peak range when smoking now it can get scary if i let it creep up onto me and not focus.

I've never had open eye visuals from weed, really, except for intense visual static. I get CEVs to music, more like I sort of get lost into visionary journeys, not really psychedelic though, more like just random mind wandering stuff. Back in the early days of smoking, it would make everything look different but in a sort of perspective way. It would look the same, but my perception of how it looked changed.

 

[psy997]

Weird from such low doses no?
I never have jaw issues, a friend of mine her jaw was absolutely locked once, surprised here teeth survived. What a sight that was :S

Do you have the white 5-MAPB? I have both white and brown, big difference in effects, as well as taste. I like the drug but never really understood peoples love for it.

Well, 30mg Adderall is a pretty strong dose for me. I usually max out at 7.5-10mg for a day when I take it. And then 15-20mg 5-MAPB on top. I don't know, it makes sense to me, I guess. At least, I'm experiencing it so it makes sense in a felt way

I have the white 5-MAPB, obtained last summer from a pretty highly rated vendor. What's your experience between white and brown?

 

[Deleted member 521610]

I've never had open eye visuals from weed, really, except for intense visual static. I get CEVs to music, more like I sort of get lost into visionary journeys, not really psychedelic though, more like just random mind wandering stuff. Back in the early days of smoking, it would make everything look different but in a sort of perspective way. It would look the same, but my perception of how it looked changed.

i think i have really overdone it then on psychedelics. Every time i smoke i get intense OEV and CEVs that are fully LSD type visuals reality mind bending shapes forming in the mid air everything morphing melting intense awareness. But i dont smoke every day now. And i have noticed after my last binge from dec to feb that did make it stronger.

i need to quit weed again soon i enjoy it but its pretty intense and i feel cooked the next day and the munchies makes me eat so food.

I think im going to close my psychedelic journey this year the side effects are really getting to me now with the intense hppd perma trip fried feeling. I will probably make bicycle day my last acid trip then keep doing some mushrooms.

I think they have put me in a way better spot than before all the trips but the question is how far can we keep pushing these things? or maybe its just the fried weed feeling make me scared of psychedelics and when ill take acid again ill see the light and be in love with it all again.

 

[Buzz Lightbeer]

Never had any visuals whatsoever on cannabis.
@ecstacylover and others talking about 4C-D for so long tickles me in places....... maybe one day I come across it.

I'm hypomanic again, again, hope sleep comes soon cause I gotta be up and kicking early!! I feel like tripping afterwards but that's only gonna send me further.

 

[Buzz Lightbeer]

Well, 30mg Adderall is a pretty strong dose for me. I usually max out at 7.5-10mg for a day when I take it. And then 15-20mg 5-MAPB on top. I don't know, it makes sense to me, I guess. At least, I'm experiencing it so it makes sense in a felt way

I have the white 5-MAPB, obtained last summer from a pretty highly rated vendor. What's your experience between white and brown?

Brown is less potent and effects feel more clouded and less 'emotional', only really did it once, don't know if that perception was due to decreased potency. The color, odor and taste turn me off either way.
Luckily I have 1.5g of white batches. Not that I really need it anyway if I am allowed to bank on finding quality MDMA ever again (which I like much better), but I read of @GChem (what was his name??) combining both with great success.

 

[psy997]

Re: cannabis visuals, I've had them 2-3 times. The most intense was eating a peanut butter cracker edible with 1g of schwag back when I first started smoking, before having tripped also, and laying on my friend's bed, visual field completely full of static and totally different, as you mentioned Xorkoth, but with a video reel going by me, with each frame a different video. I remember thinking that this must be what acid is like with the visuals lol. It was definitely as intense as a moderate psychedelic trip. I couldn't even understand what was going on. Every time by friend's brother walked in - they shared a room, and I was on his bed - it took me 10+ seconds to put together who he was. I was completely bed-locked. It was crazy. I'd fully flip my shit at that kind of dose, now. If say the schwag was 5% THC, that would have been off of only 50mg of THC lol

I'm hypomanic again, again, hope sleep comes soon cause I gotta be up and kicking early!! I feel like tripping afterwards but that's only gonna send me further.

Good luck, buzz! I'm also wondering how I'm going to sleep tonight

 

[Buzz Lightbeer]

Good luck, buzz! I'm also wondering how I'm going to sleep tonight

Still early days for you brother! Benzos are always an option, that's way too late for me, when stimulating drugs are in play I don't feel guilty dosing some etizolam.

Maybe if I stopped hanging around here and stopped binging The Wire for the 4th time......

 

[woundedhealer]

I can definitely empathise with the feeling of remorse abusing LSD, or simply- overusing basically.

i did have a fantastic trip from midnight Saturday, the initial comeup on 1000 ug was insane. Real traces and trails. And strangely it was easier to slide into the trip than it is when I take 50 to 300 ug doses and usually do not like the first several hours of intensity.

The 1000 ug bolted me past that. Plugging 400 ug at 6 am Sunday hit me right back up to the moon.
My heavy trips often take different phases. Like. 3 segments. After 12 hours tripping there’s a middle section where fatigue, just getting my witts together takes over fo a while.

It takes some work but I usually turn it back around again and can access the best part of the trip, like a second wave, the other side of the mid-abyss.

it took a hot shower Sunday afternoon after a friend visited (don’t tell Boris Johnson though, shit’s illegal lol) and I orally reposed the final 200 ug before my shower.

I came up very much on that. It kept me right up in the stratosphere all day and night. Thought loops, everything, but was in a pretty good mood.

Lots of cannabis vaporised and 2 big edible doses, usual kava, successfully ate a proper meal finally.

It is when I first awake after an initial deep post trip sleep, from 3 am to 11 am today, that I really struggle with lately.

I woke this morning feeling well and truly, utterly crazy. Head spinning with thoughts still scarily buzzing on acid, no way to just calm and quieten my mind, no mind over matter option available. Just time to pass, patience and feeble self assurance.

I’ve been there so many times recently. 103 tabs in about 30 days.

They- the 60’s hippies, used to say “acid burns”.

Because it really is playing with fire in a sense. I have gotten a little burnt but am hopeful time will continue to be the great healer it is. I can’t handle that crazy feeling in my head in the immediate waking aftermath anymore.

I think of Syd Barrett and it scares me. Nowhere to turn, nobody to bail me out or lend assurance. Just having to take the hit.

This is where the benzos come in. My trips are as intense and deep as ever, the benzos are not noticeably nullifying anything, just enabling me to not go mental and get calm back. LSD overuse and benzo addiction actually go hand in hand IMO. It becomes a necessary evil.

The initial intense craziness did ease off, I slept until 3 pm but feared getting up to face reality, physical conditions and pain when so nuts still, and the post LSD fatigue has always been a killer for me even in my fit and prime youth, more than any other drug even insane MDMA overuse.

So....on with the show now I guess. I’m going to give myself 7 days now, trusting this time next week I can feel together again.

I felt equally scrambled numerous times last 30 days after silly high doses trips, and I did get it pretty much all back together again.

Hppd has not been troubling me. Sure I’m still tripping now, as I should expect, and if I vaporize or eat weed today I will be uncomfortably sky high again. But that will settle off too over coming days.

What stays with me is my mind frame, consciousness and hyper awareness of everything going on around me.

Talk about a heroic dose! I admire your courage to step into that frame and wear it for 23 hours and the next few days. I was interested that you used a benzo to take the edge off the next day. I can almost feel you getting your calm back.

I'm interested to know if anyone has seen or experienced personality disturbances with overuse of psychedelics and cannabis? She takes a DAILY macrodose of psilocybin (200mg), THC (10 - 25 mg), with frequent ketamine spray, on a daily basis and taking a full dose of MDMA or LSD or mushrooms once a week. My partner has been doing this for several months and I notice that she has become increasingly agitated, negative and fearful. On MDMA she is often in a good place but when she goes back to an agitated state the next day.

She believes she is healing herself and using these substances to grow, and I support her growth, but I worry that she may becoming unhinged. She also says she needs it to manage pain. When I try to talk with her about this she shuts it down and gets angry and defensive. She is a smart, beautiful woman and she often has brilliant insights from her psychedelic use. Taking psychedelics this often can be an escape, not much different than someone who can't get through the day without a crutch. I am noticing that her frame or schema is getting distorted, like everything is filtered through broken glass. Kind of like a mild psychotic state. She also has an active kundalini. The combination of these substances might be the issue or it might just be her.

Please weigh in if you have any thoughts

 

[Deleted member 521610]

just buried these feelings for this girl can see we on diff paths in life and i am be moving away in a year and eventually she will leave nz anyway. So best just to be friends. Story of my life though lol the coolest women i click and meet we all going to be ending up in diff countries. Before we split apart in life though i will spread the knowledge of LSD to every corner of the globe and teach all the newcomers this sacred knowledge.

at that use your partner is abusing these substances and is going to lead to a very bad burn out. the MDMA will make her brain damaged at that rate pretty fast. Tell her to go sober and only take a psychedelic once a month.

 

[woundedhealer]

AMT is a gem for sure. It can be a little rough sometimes but it's massively rolly, slightly psychedelic, lasts forever, and doesn't have a crash, in fact it can have a lingering antidepressant effect. Unless you use it too often, then it exacts a serious toll.

I have never tried AMT and I'm interested. When you say using it too often exacts a serious toll, what is your experience?

 

[Buzz Lightbeer]

I have never tried AMT and I'm interested. When you say using it too often exacts a serious toll, what is your experience?

You're almost 4 months behind man! Welcome :D

As for your girlfriend, yes, she should take a break, definitely with the MDMA. There are loads of people that complain of severe long term adverse effects from abuse. It screws with serotonin levels. Ketamine and everyday shroom dosing should be avoided as well.

As for AMT, I haven't tried it myself but it's described as a slightly trippy, clearheaded and very long MDMA roll. You can find some reports here.

Search Results : Erowid Experience Vaults

Erowid Experience Vaults: An Experience

www.erowid.org

I'm sure many here can give you an extended reply

 

[woundedhealer]

Thank you @Buzz Lightbeer

I'm looking into acquiring some aMT, it looks like an amazing substance!

I agree with you about MDMA use and psilocybin and K. She should take a break.

Cheers

 

[Xorkoth]

Re: cannabis visuals, I've had them 2-3 times. The most intense was eating a peanut butter cracker edible with 1g of schwag back when I first started smoking, before having tripped also, and laying on my friend's bed, visual field completely full of static and totally different, as you mentioned Xorkoth, but with a video reel going by me, with each frame a different video. I remember thinking that this must be what acid is like with the visuals lol. It was definitely as intense as a moderate psychedelic trip. I couldn't even understand what was going on. Every time by friend's brother walked in - they shared a room, and I was on his bed - it took me 10+ seconds to put together who he was. I was completely bed-locked. It was crazy. I'd fully flip my shit at that kind of dose, now. If say the schwag was 5% THC, that would have been off of only 50mg of THC lol



Good luck, buzz! I'm also wondering how I'm going to sleep tonight

Now that I think about it, in my early days of smoking, I used to get a frame visual effect, where my vision lagged in a major way and I saw in a series of frames, instead of a steady, continuous vision. Also, a couple of years back, I took a big old dab of some 95% THC isolate, and my vision went so pixelated that it turned entirely green and I couldn't really see, I got nauseous and felt like I was falling at a million miles an hour, and after like 20 minutes managed to stumble to a reclining chair and closed my eyes and listened to the Dead, and went on some epic inward journeys with abstract visionary CEVs similar to tryptamines but dreamier and less crisp and geometric.

I have never tried AMT and I'm interested. When you say using it too often exacts a serious toll, what is your experience?

Using it too often definitely exacts a price, AMT is a triple releaser (as in, it releases serotonin, dopamine, and norepinephrine), so it will deplete you, particularly your serotonin, similar to how using MDMA too often depletes you, but not as bad, in my experience. Still, overuse of it causes brain zaps, depression, and other symptoms of serotonin depletion. AMT is not like other psychedelics... most psychedelics are just agonists at serotonin receptors (ie, they mimic serotonin), so they do not deplete your serotonin, but AMT is a releaser which means it needs to be used with more caution. It is also an MAOI, so it's important not to mix other serotonin releasers like MDMA with it, or use other stimulants with it. People have died from AMT, and almost always it was combining it with MDMA.

All that said, AMT is indeed an amazing substance, it's my favorite empathogen. it's more like MDMA than it is like traditional psychedelics, but it is a bit psychedelic and very rolly, and just overall lovely and very recreational. It's not really dangerous if you dose wisely, and don't combine it with anything that is a stimulant or serotonin releaser.

Also, hey there, welcome. Nice to see a new poster pop into PD social.

 

[woundedhealer]

I've been on bluelight for years, I created a new account because I lost my old one.

Thanks for this great advice. I'll definitely give it a try. It's probably not too difficult to acquire in Canada. I love that it was developed as anti depressant. Your cannabis experience sounds pretty psychedelic and epic. I tend to use cannabis more as a mood lifter at the end of the day, that is, a pretty light user. I think the weird frame is temporary. When she stops things should go back to normal.

This is a great forum. Lots of good energy and some beautiful people on here! Thanks for your responses

 

[Xorkoth]

Oh word, well then. Thanks, we have a lot of pride in this place, I know I do, anyway. We've worked hard to try to keep the quality of our content up and continue to provide a good environment for people to share their experiences and provide high quality information, in the face of traditional forums dying out and Google's algorithms cutting out anything but reddit and Quora and "recovery industry" companies. It's nice to get some validation for our efforts. (y)

Regular use of cannabis starts to make it lose its more powerful effects and it becomes much lighter and more easygoing, but when you use it occasionally, it really is a pretty powerfully mind altering drug. I started to experience anxiety from it during my opiate addiction phase, and so I stopped using it much (used to be a daily smoker, for years I was a dedicated 24/7 stoner, even), but now I'm glad, because I like it more as a less frequent but more powerful experience. I do wish I could use it to unwind at the end of the day more, though, I kinda miss that. These days I get substantially more anxiety from it than I do from LSD or similar psychedelics, unless I only use it in the right circumstances. If I am anxious about something, it will make me much more anxious, so I have to use it when I don't have things weighing on me, and I'm not in a situation where I am prone to getting anxious.

 

[psy997]

Brown is less potent and effects feel more clouded and less 'emotional', only really did it once, don't know if that perception was due to decreased potency. The color, odor and taste turn me off either way.
Luckily I have 1.5g of white batches. Not that I really need it anyway if I am allowed to bank on finding quality MDMA ever again (which I like much better), but I read of @GChem (what was his name??) combining both with great success.

Ah great, I was hoping you'd say the white is better! I also have about 1.5g left. I do like MDMA better, but considering I haven't been able to find any that is good for years now - with maybe 2 exceptions - it's more than good enough. And yes, GChem really likes combining them by dosing the 5-MAPB first, and then dosing the MDMA I think an hour later?

I had this written 1.5hrs ago and then got distracted, hopefully I didn't get ninja'd by GChem hah...