⫸STICKY⫷ Why you shouldn't abuse Ketamine (nsfw photos)

[hydroazuanacaine]

I stay away from those. Last time i even had mxe i was on the roof in my boxers in the middle of a storm broad daylight

if your genitals are covered by an appropriate garment in the midst of an arylcyclohexylamine freak out, you're doing relatively well.

Until you're convinced your cell phone is relaying every thing to the world police and you bury it in a hole...

gotta know when the phone the info provides you is no longer worth the info it provides them.

 

[Bella Figura]

Fair enough - I just avoid pcp and co like the plague after losing my mind and it taking months to return back to normal. I'd rather damage my bladder in moderation than lose my mind again..

 

[jhjhsdi]

if your genitals are covered by an appropriate garment in the midst of an arylcyclohexylamine freak out, you're doing relatively well.


gotta know when the phone the info provides you is no longer worth the info it provides them.

A bollock could easily have been hanging out, i was squatting when i came round and the roof was slanted

Fair enough - I just avoid pcp and co like the plague after losing my mind and it taking months to return back to normal. I'd rather damage my bladder in moderation than lose my mind again..

I feel the same lol ive got some mad horror storys from the mxe/mxp days

 

[Drag2019]

Be aware OP that the massive dose and frequency of your use would cause inevitable damage to anyone's kidneys and bladder and you're bladder and kidney function is severely impaired err... damaged.

The frequency of your usage and equally important the dose you use to get effects will cause you to sooner rather than later have your bladder removed and the same problems you had before reoccur again. Luckily for you, it's not too late for you to change and prevent the worse outcome from happening if you are determined enough to accomplish what is clearly very difficult for you.

I truly wish the best for you and hope you can manage to use ketamine less excessively than you are. I just really thought this needed to be said for harm reduction's sake and as my way of personally thanking you for making this post to warn others of the potential dangers of ketamine abuse.


Merry Christmas to anyone reading this currently today btw.

 

[cdin]

This response is for OP. I was in your state/condition for many years. Continued on with the k and drinking, got burned in a fire, had to spend a lot more time on opes and k --- let me give you a heads up -- the bladder stuff sucks, but there's a much more insidious problem lurking beneath the surface -- if you're urine is that limited/you have this many problems with scarring in the bladder etc -- guess where that urine/buildup is backing up to? kidneys. After "mostly quitting" in similar fashion to you, i thought i was clear because bladder was OK until..... I stopped being able to take basically any renally processed med. this includes morphine, which i need for pain management. I get all the symptoms of toxic buildup from the kidney mediated metabolite. it's pretty awful. A n y t h i n g that is at ALL hard on my kidneys can send me into shakes/semi-paralysis. I now have to control my BP w meds. In 100% honesty, it's the most terrifying thing I've ever experienced and has scared me off entirely. dont get there.

 

[jhjhsdi]

guess where that urine/buildup is backing up to? kidneys.

Yes this is what i am becoming afraid of. How long were you on K;
1: before you had the problems i had in 2016
2: after they went, until the new problems started?
Also how were you taking it? And how much? Before and after. Sorry its quite a few questions but not many people have been in this predicament so I'd love to hear from you.

A n y t h i n g that is at ALL hard on my kidneys can send me into shakes/semi-paralysis.

Alcohol? Certain foods? Or just medications?

Thank you for responding

 

[Higherfocus420]

I sniffed a half gram line on a binge once blacked out and came to passed out at the bottom of the stairs my sister round me passed out I came to with cracked ribs and a broken left arm I was still ketty so didnt didn't realise until it wore off and I couldn't open my hand at the hospital they broke my arm back into place and then next day did opeoperation where they put a metal plate in my arm so be careful if ur dosing high on your own as I could have broke my neck

 

[jhjhsdi]

I sniffed a half gram line on a binge once blacked out and came to passed out at the bottom of the stairs my sister round me passed out I came to with cracked ribs and a broken left arm I was still ketty so didnt didn't realise until it wore off and I couldn't open my hand at the hospital they broke my arm back into place and then next day did opeoperation where they put a metal plate in my arm so be careful if ur dosing high on your own as I could have broke my neck

I've broken my ribs too doing it alone and broke my nose at least a couple times. Came round with all sorts of injuries especially IVing.
The trick is be sat down on the floor with pillows around you.
Or wear a helmet. Or be in a padded cell

But no, jokes aside it can be extremely dangerous, you easily could have broken your neck and been dead or paralyzed.

K really is an 'at home, in your fucking chair/safe place' drug. When you dont respect it as one, it can and will kick your ass into doing so!

 

[Higherfocus420]

I've broken my ribs too doing it alone and broke my nose at least a couple times. Came round with all sorts of injuries especially IVing.
The trick is be sat down on the floor with pillows around you.
Or wear a helmet. Or be in a padded cell

But no, jokes aside it can be extremely dangerous, you easily could have broken your neck and been dead or paralyzed.

K really is an 'at home, in your fucking chair/safe place' drug. When you dont respect it as one, it can and will kick your ass into doing so!

yea man it's fucking intense it's good after party or with some close mates at home I've literally seen people khole on the dance floor haha

 

[ChemicallyEnhanced]

Holy shit, I'd say you're REALLY fucking lucky you didn't become permanently incontinent. And yes, that's literal pieces of your bladder you were pissing out. I'm glad you seem to be recovering now!

 

[ChemicallyEnhanced]

Holy shit, I'd say you're REALLY fucking lucky you didn't become permanently incontinent. And yes, that's literal pieces of your bladder you were pissing out. I'm glad you seem to be recovering now!

 

[jhjhsdi]

Holy shit, I'd say you're REALLY fucking lucky you didn't become permanently incontinent. And yes, that's literal pieces of your bladder you were pissing out. I'm glad you seem to be recovering now!

Thanks pal and yes I was extremely lucky to stop that lifestyle when I did. I'm sure the specialists were right when they said I had 2 weeks to a month tops of going on like that before it was bladder removal time.

I'm so happy this thread has got so much attention, and warned/taught people, each of the pictures are on around 1600 views now!

 

[cdin]

Yes this is what i am becoming afraid of. How long were you on K;
1: before you had the problems i had in 2016
2: after they went, until the new problems started?
Also how were you taking it? And how much? Before and after. Sorry its quite a few questions but not many people have been in this predicament so I'd love to hear from you.

Alcohol? Certain foods? Or just medications?

Thank you for responding

Oh shit, first use ... 13 yrs. every chance i could get... i would say there has been over 15 years of heavy abuse in the realm of what you have discussed. I personally never had those exact problems/never scarred my bladder as badly as you. plenty of times I was wracked with pains/low volume and after many years and a bout of PTSD I had to be put on alpha blockers to make it through the night sleeping. At that point, it was 50 - 100ml volume, that was twoish years ago, when I stopped doing it heavily. The bladder volume has improved greatly. What has not, however, are the kidney issues. I'm sure my case is complicated -- lot of other things that are rough on kidneys, booze, yay, opioids (they make you retain urine and over time do damage), alcohol -- so there was a lot, and it all came to a tipping point after poisoning myself well good and proper with a fleet sodium enema due to ope constipation issues. That was the first time i experienced the heavy kidney issues. Muscles locking up (back of thies especially), visual hallucinations, loss of mental control, violent shaking(so bad i can't use a doorknob or a pill bottle), out of control heart rate/BP fluctuating all over the place, massive sweats, dehydration, total fuckery of thought processes. It took me a long time to figure out what was what. I would clean up, things would go away then I would edge back into partying. Things seem ok for a minute then get awful.

I really began to put it all together when I realized I was getting awful problems from morphine. Upon looking it up -- the 6-gluco metabolite is nuerotoxic, and causes a lot of these ^ symptoms (though some more specific, which I also experienced -- increased pain and skin sensitivity being two unpleasant ones). It also specifically accumulates in renally compromised people and causes all this type of bs. So that was a clue. My levels have been ok, but they have not pulled them during a specific "attack" ANYthing hard on/requiring renal metabolism brings these symptoms back. I have had to drop a lot of meds that were helpful to me, morphine, baclofen to name a few. Any dabbling brings it all back immediately, irrespective of drug class, so I know it's not a WD thing.

I am looking for the reference, but I found some documentation of k case studies where they specifically stated that the damage did not show up in level tests, but required an invasive biopsy. I have requested several, but no one is willing to do it. I have also not been honest w my providers about the extent of all this for pretty obvious reasons.

tl;dr -- 40mg of k sniffed throws me into a violent renal reaction w all the hallmarks of really serious kidney problems. This goes away if i stick to food, water and nothing that aggravates kidneys. liver processed items do not present the same symptoms.
I have had to completely shift my life/lifestyle etc -- but this should tell anyone who has been in the shit what im talking about -- the feeling is SO BAD, that I willingly cold turkeyed morphine because I just had to get it out of my system. It made ope WD look dumb. It was absolutely terrifying. never been more sure I wasn't gonna make it. This has been an ongoing situation since the enema poisoning, with crests every time i let myself get stressed and party, I've been cleaning myself up progressively and things have finally evened out and I feel mostly normal. it was truly hell getting back to this spot.

Do Not. Do this. To Yourself. limit your k intake to a couple times a month at the most. drink lots of water. don't exceed 1g in a night.

 

[jhjhsdi]

@cdin
Thank you for the reply.
Sounds like hell. Glad you have managed to get back to mostly normal.
I have a few questions/comments.
Was the ptsd related to the k abuse or something else?
It definitely sounds like the opes have not helped. I'd wager the mixture is what really got you. Also wtf is fleet sodium?
I think you should be honest with your providers (do you mean doctors etc?) it wasn't until I was that they took me seriously.

The worst kidney pains I ever had was when I was drinking every day for months then had to go into hospital for an operation on a dodgy filing id got that became infected and had to be on anti biotics for nearly 3 weeks so obviously i couldn't drink. I had been doing oramorph, tramadol and codeine in hospital for 4 days then prescribed codeine for a further 14 days @ 60mg x 3 a day. I also didnt stop doing K, but i didnt have it every day.

The day i had my first drink after stopping the ABs, POW, after just a few mouthfuls of strong cider, literally within minutes, it was like someone had hit me with a hammer in both kidneys. It almost floored me i thought i was going to need to go back to hospital.
Only doing K made the pain go away. And I carried on drinking and powered through. For the sake of the party, right?

Since then, when I drink heavily (say 70cl of rum) alongside more than a few g of K i OCCASIONALLY get little aches in them for a few hours the next day, so i just hammer loads of water and they stop hurting.

I think I'm going to start taking a kidney protection supplement

 

[cdin]

@cdin
Thank you for the reply.
Sounds like hell. Glad you have managed to get back to mostly normal.
I have a few questions/comments.
Was the ptsd related to the k abuse or something else?
It definitely sounds like the opes have not helped. I'd wager the mixture is what really got you. Also wtf is fleet sodium?
I think you should be honest with your providers (do you mean doctors etc?) it wasn't until I was that they took me seriously.

The worst kidney pains I ever had was when I was drinking every day for months then had to go into hospital for an operation on a dodgy filing id got that became infected and had to be on anti biotics for nearly 3 weeks so obviously i couldn't drink. I had been doing oramorph, tramadol and codeine in hospital for 4 days then prescribed codeine for a further 14 days @ 60mg x 3 a day. I also didnt stop doing K, but i didnt have it every day.

The day i had my first drink after stopping the ABs, POW, after just a few mouthfuls of strong cider, literally within minutes, it was like someone had hit me with a hammer in both kidneys. It almost floored me i thought i was going to need to go back to hospital.
Only doing K made the pain go away. And I carried on drinking and powered through. For the sake of the party, right?

Since then, when I drink heavily (say 70cl of rum) alongside more than a few g of K i OCCASIONALLY get little aches in them for a few hours the next day, so i just hammer loads of water and they stop hurting.

I think I'm going to start taking a kidney protection supplement

Ptsd is from burn injuries originally but has blossomed into proper complex ptsd w severe anxiety. Crippling.
Fleet sodium is a sodium enema. It was a last resort for severe constipation. I was so weakened from weeks of not eating it just overwhelmed my system.

I would love to be honest w m providers. Today is my first day where I’ve managed to completely titrate off opes - I have a very shitty hmo that hates drug users and any mention of this shit without being able to piss clean for opes means I’d be given the option of cutting off my insurance or attending inpatient rehab w major ptsd in a pandemic.

I think I’ll stay home and ride it out, thanks. But I will tell them more once I can piss clean.

 

[jhjhsdi]

@cdin ah sorry to hear. Burn injuries are savage. I expect k was one of the only things that really helped with the pain hey. I've always found it way more effective than opes.
Congrats on the titration btw

Good luck for when you do tell them
And thanks again for answering my queries.
Btw, were you only sniffing the k or did you IM/IV?

 

[cdin]

I was the king of the double pumper --- my preferred method was 100mg IM, 100mg IV ;D . cuz im savage like that. Lol, really kinda glad all this shit is behind me. honestly, i don't regret the time I had with it, but it was a serious drag on my life and here's what really got me. I was at the world iboga conference in Mexico a few years back with a friends wife. said friend abuses all sorts of weird out of the way dissocs despite having a good job w state of CA. he makes his own, sometimes is effed up for days afterwards. it impacts his life/relationship. She looked me dead on in the eye and asked "What is it you guys SEE/get out of this stuff?" I thought really hard... and I shit you not all I could think of is "Well, it feels weird, and I enjoy it".. When i place that "pro" against the "cons" of all these serious complications... seems kinda stupid lol. in conclusion, much like the nitrous zone - there are no answers at the bottom of the hole. Just bodily/relationship damage.

 

[cdin]

oh, and brain damage as well. With. Out. Question. I am much slower on the uptake than i used to be, verbal accuity slipping some etc. --- I am much wiser, and honestly I will take the trade of short stop intellect for long view understanding, but it is a trade off and people should be aware of that as well. I am also fairly certain it has altered my GABA/glutamate axis from messing with the regulation of the NMDA system.

 

[jhjhsdi]

@cdin haha I've done the double pump before me and one friend have done lots of weird 'games' like that. Most are too irresponsible for me to even post here considering this is supposed to be harm reduction lol.
"feels weird, and i enjoy it" too true lol.
What do you mean your friend makes his own? Own dissos? Full synth or like mixed up combinations of ore existing ones? Interesting.
I also feel the same about the n2o zone, and about that type of brain damage - my memory of the past is pretty shot, especially short term, and i find it harder to actually remember/learn things, like if i have to read something and memorize it, i used to be able to scan over it and repeat it days later. Now I'll really concentrate on reading it and try to recall it hours later and be stumped....not good!

 

[cdin]

and it doesn't improve with time and more abuse. You really have to just stop, in my experience and the fog starts to lift verrrrry slowly, i think as NMDA receptors get back to normal shape. yeah, synths his own completely novel compounds then tests them. sometimes he'll be effed
up for days and showing up improperly at work etc.