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Yeah I thought for a long time that it could be lethal but I think that’s mostly reserved for GABA drugs.

it’s definitely a common thing you hear that it’s “deadly”. Not downplaying how shitty it must be but at least you won’t have a seizure and die like benzos might
 
I don't get most of any of it.

Poppers? Fuck's the point?
Opiates? Sleep's more fun.
Injecting? Way too much work required.
Benzos? Negronis taste better.
Weed? Sleep's more fun and less anxiogenic.
Deleriants? I mean, I guess I do dumb shit as well so I shouldn't comment, but....
Stimulants? My libido's fine, thanks.
N-bombs and etc? Why am I doing the dangerous version of perfectly safe drugs?
Cathinones? something, something, Florida

Yeah, I know I'm boring.
 
At least with stimulants, you can enter some really unique conversation headspaces. MDMA obv being the prime example but even regular ol Amphetamine has done it for me quite reliably

all about intent ;)
 
thegreenhand said:
At least with stimulants, you can enter some really unique conversation headspaces. MDMA obv being the prime example but even regular ol Amphetamine has done it for me quite reliably

all about intent ;)
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Hold up, I love MDMA and don't class it with stimulants. Don't get it twisted.

Fully "get" M.

"Unique conversation headspaces"? Do you know how many times I've wanted to knock the fuck out of a cokehead going on about some complete bollocks? Lost count years ago. ;)
 
SunriseChampion said:
I don't get most of any of it.

Poppers? Fuck's the point?
Opiates? Sleep's more fun.
Injecting? Way too much work required.
Benzos? Negronis taste better.
Weed? Sleep's more fun and less anxiogenic.
Deleriants? I mean, I guess I do dumb shit as well so I shouldn't comment, but....
Stimulants? My libido's fine, thanks.
N-bombs and etc? Why am I doing the dangerous version of perfectly safe drugs?
Cathinones? something, something, Florida

Yeah, I know I'm boring.
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What about booze? 😜
 
thegreenhand said:
At least with stimulants, you can enter some really unique conversation headspaces. MDMA obv being the prime example but even regular ol Amphetamine has done it for me quite reliably

all about intent ;)
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I spent about 5 hours yesterday having an out loud stimulant conversation with myself which was highly enlightening and definitely a unique headspace. MDMA conversations less interesting after the 2 minutes it takes to express my deepest innermost feelings and then devote myself fully to encouraging companion to get naked so we feel closer.
 
Atelier3 said:
I spent about 5 hours yesterday having an out loud stimulant conversation with myself which was highly enlightening and definitely a unique headspace. MDMA conversations less interesting after the 2 minutes it takes to express my deepest innermost feelings and then devote myself fully to encouraging companion to get naked so we feel closer.
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Lmao I feel that

this Saturday my buddy and did a few bumps of adderall before a 3 hr drive and we had an absolutely incredible conversation. We had taken mdma the night before and it was interesting to see the similarities but also that amph allowed one to stay “intellectual” versus the love orgasm that mdma is
 
Atelier3 said:
I spent about 5 hours yesterday having an out loud stimulant conversation with myself which was highly enlightening and definitely a unique headspace. MDMA conversations less interesting after the 2 minutes it takes to express my deepest innermost feelings and then devote myself fully to encouraging companion to get naked so we feel closer.
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How would you compare these stimulant convo headspaces with psychedelic-induced ones?
 
thegreenhand said:
Lmao I feel that

this Saturday my buddy and did a few bumps of adderall before a 3 hr drive and we had an absolutely incredible conversation. We had taken mdma the night before and it was interesting to see the similarities but also that amph allowed one to stay “intellectual” versus the love orgasm that mdma is
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Lucky it was just Adderall. While beaming on amphetamine sulphate once I borrowed my flatmate’s car to nick down to the shops and accidentally drove from Sydney to Canberra. I would probably have way less amphetamine adventures if I had someone to talk to rather than just going with the moment.
 
SunriseChampion said:
How would you compare these stimulant convo headspaces with psychedelic-induced ones?
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So far my stim conversations with myself play out like regular me is consulting someone knowledgeable about what should be done next and how it should be done. Then wise and venerable amped me gives firm and clear directions about how to proceed and what the risks might be. Even the simplest things like hanging out the washing seem to require specialised guidance during these sessions.

My LSD conversations with myself are like a cliche from the 60s. It’s basically ‘O wow! Look deep into that carpet man. It’s fucking cosmic’
 
SunriseChampion said:
How would you compare these stimulant convo headspaces with psychedelic-induced ones?
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For me,

the sense of self doesn’t change like it does on psychs and it’s easier to stay “grounded”. All my rational/intellectual capacities stay intact which is nice too lol

on psychs the insights come from the whole ~lived experience~ whereas the stimulant insights are much more based on language and thoughts
 
Atelier3 said:
Lucky it was just Adderall. While beaming on amphetamine sulphate once I borrowed my flatmate’s car to nick down to the shops and accidentally drove from Sydney to Canberra. I would probably have way less amphetamine adventures if I had someone to talk to rather than just going with the moment.
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Yeah the US doesn’t have any Amphetamine sulfate as far as I know. But plenty of adderall to go around (especially for college students)

i don’t think I would want to take it alone. Idk what I’d do with myself lol. When i took it to write an essay (my one and only functional use of it) I did the work but it wasnt particularly worthwhile and it felt like a wasted opportunity

infrequent use as an entheogen is where I’m gonna try to stay...
 
thegreenhand said:
For me,

the sense of self doesn’t change like it does on psychs and it’s easier to stay “grounded”. All my rational/intellectual capacities stay intact which is nice too lol

on psychs the insights come from the whole ~lived experience~ whereas the stimulant insights are much more based on language and thoughts
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Ah. I know what you mean. It’s a bit like the difference between science and art. Both are ways to convey meaning but one is built on structure, logic and reason and the other an expression of sentiment, feeling, and self.
 
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