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Opioids Can i micro-dose meth for opi withdrawal ??

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I need a little help...I apologize in advance if this becomes too long.
Quick history - 5 years opi abuse, then 14 months of bupe, then 2.5 months of methadone, and now almost 2 months of heavy kratom use (i was ignorant to the duration of the methadone withdrawal).
My last 25mg of methadone was August 28th. Started the Kratom on September 7.
Tried to ct it all 3 days ago, but after 40-45 hours the withdrawal hit hard, not methadone hard, but enough to spawn me to action.
A friend told me to try micro-dosing ice for a few days to get past the worst of it all. I tried it tonight. I have felt awesome (duh, I'm high) for the past 5 hours, but it seems i can feel the opi withdrawal underneath it all. Is that possible...??
Is this even a good idea...?? Reviews seem to be mixed.
If this is something I should continue...how often should i bump..??? Should I wait until I've caught some sleep and dopamine restoration before i micro-dose again..???
Any help at all will be greatly appreciated. I am familiar, unfortunately, with opi withdrawal. Both in knowledge and experience.
Thanks...
 
Stimulants do help opioid withdrawal to a certain point, after which they become detrimental.

Id say up to 40-50mg (of pure dextromethamphetamine equivalent) is fine after which you'll see diminishing returns. The truth is anything over 30-40mg may be problematic however.
 
in your experience, what is the time frame on the stims becoming detrimental...???
I am starting to itch for another hit after about 5 hours of no withdrawal...
thanks...!!!
 
phosphorylation is nice said:
in your experience, what is the time frame on the stims becoming detrimental...???
I am starting to itch for another hit after about 5 hours of no withdrawal...
thanks...!!!
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What ROA are you using for the meth? If you're smoking it, stop. Rapid diminishing returns and a stronger compulsion to redose too often will just cancel out any progress you make by microdosing.
Trying eating it, or better yet, snort your dose for a longer duration of effects and much reduced "morish" side effects (fiending).
 
I wouldn't bother microdosing methamphetamine. You might as well take a full dose. I can't tell you what that is but 10mg is a decent starting point

I find methamphetamine therapeutic but that's me. I can't say you won't get addicted to it
 
tweakerguy said:
What ROA are you using for the meth? If you're smoking it, stop. Rapid diminishing returns and a stronger compulsion to redose too often will just cancel out any progress you make by microdosing.
Trying eating it, or better yet, snort your dose for a longer duration of effects and much reduced "morish" side effects (fiending).
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i snorted just the tiniest bit last night...must've gotten rocket fuel...got spun on accident. It's 3:45pm here and sleep is no where in sight...lol
I do think this is going to work though...just gonna have to be uber careful with dose. Too much last night.
 
tweakerguy said:
Meth is no joke, and if you've got no tolerance then a bump the size of a matchhead goes a long way. I remember those days.
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Maybe. I don't think I'd feel that myself. I need about 50mg to get going and that's smoking. Probably closer to 100mg snorting it, which I never measured because I don't like that ROA
 
Negrogesic got to it before me lol.

I'd say, for withdrawal off of straight fent or H, I'd only do so if youre POSITIVE you've got something coming, otherwise your body feels the aches and pains so much worse...
If withdrawal normally is like getting hit by a truck,using ice to stave it off for a few hours and THEN wdIng is like getting hit by a train and then having a train hobo come buttfuck your body...

However idk with weaker opiate like kratom you may be aight
 
I think I've done it once, my opiate habit wasn't huge but I knew I was in for a couple of days of misery and had some meth so thought might as well fly through the next couple days.

Unfortunately I can't remember whether overall it was worth it or not, I'm sure I ended up having to deal with the after effects of meth eventually.
 
Gormur said:
Maybe. I don't think I'd feel that myself. I need about 50mg to get going and that's smoking. Probably closer to 100mg snorting it, which I never measured because I don't like that ROA
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I have a longtime question and you can probably answer it. Never smoked/ vaped it but got one of those glass ball pipes. I dont have any or i'd just try but is the smoke very harsh? I always see people exhale immediately while with crack you keep it in, after all that your money. Or are those just wasting idiots???
 
It shouldn't be harsh at all, its a vapor. Unless you accidentally start burning it, it should feel like 0% nicotine e-juice.
That said, it's not something I feel comfortable holding in, like marijuana, but that's just me. I see lot of people that do hold their hits in though.
 
I hold it in for like 20 seconds, with big hits which is what I prefer. Big infrequent hits. If anything it feels cooling to me.
Don't think menthol but like a cool vapor breeze blowing through you

Weirdly it's nothing like crack/freebase vapor which kind of feels warm, almost hot. Actually if you smoke a lot of it in succession you'll probably start to burn your fingers and mouth around the pipe
 
I would avoid it.

After many years of kicking opiates with other drugs, it never turned out well. I simply added another dependence to my list. I somewhat think that if your brain is healing from opiates and you feed it another drug, that drug kinda bakes into your brain in a strange way.

My most successful opiate withdrawals were done stone cold sober.

Meth would be a tricky one, but cannot see how that would do anything but harm. You need to give your brain vitamins, not poison. You are talking about a 10 year dependence here. Nothing is going to fix your brain aside abstinence.
 
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