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Am researchng for an essay on porn and am wondering how some stuff on pornohub is even legal????

MrsGamp said:
My cuz hated working too. She almost cried with gratitude once cos I gave her some cash so she wouldn't have to go out that night. It was awful.
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yeah its horrible. but in a way i was actually glad i'd been abused to the point that i was prepared to do stuff i could get a lot of money for just cos of how much crack i got to smoke as a result. i'm not now. when i knew i was headed to rehab, i didn't wanna give up the drugs but i did wanna give up the sex work.

@F.U.B.A.R. i'm glad you can't understand, and sorry your mrs can. i don't really understand it either, and people react differently. until i got into recovery, i didn't reaalise that sex work was, in my case at least, really a continuation of sexual abuse. i still can't really work it out. i certainly wouldn't do it in any form clean, fuck i can barely even have super vanilla sex.
 
F.U.B.A.R. said:
Fuckin hell. You need to move to civilisation where booze is available 24/7 MrsGamp...
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aye. when I was in the UK years ago it sort of blew my mind that you could get booze round the clock. And it sort of spoiled my trip too. Cos I was always hungover...shit I need to stop drinking. It's 4 am now and I've done nothing constructive for hours. Days. Years.
 
Morals generally have little to do with legality. I mean oftentimes some of the most astonishingly horrific acts committed by humans have occurred in a completely legal context at the time of their doing.

Pornography being as popular and addictive and gluttonously consumed as it is at the moment, is more a symptom of the crippling disconnection, isolation and loneliness eating away at the common person nowadays.

Unfulfillment romantically, platonically and even with family is the norm for many of us nowadays and it's not surprising that we seek the cheap, easy replacement of prerecorded intimacy, in the form of pornography as well as less sexually via sitcoms, reality shows and other "low brow" television and film.

Not to mention televised mega churches and down home cooking shows.

And the people who make a living streaming video games, providing maintenance doses of synthetic friendship to shut ins and the overworked.

We want friends. We want lovers.

We want to be more than our career and our
worries and our base survival needs.

But often that is a complicated and confusing dance to pull off as we create a more dense, daunting, technologically and financially dominated world for human beings in our current system.
 
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chinup said:
yeah its horrible. but in a way i was actually glad i'd been abused to the point that i was prepared to do stuff i could get a lot of money for just cos of how much crack i got to smoke as a result. i'm not now. when i knew i was headed to rehab, i didn't wanna give up the drugs but i did wanna give up the sex work.

@F.U.B.A.R. i'm glad you can't understand, and sorry your mrs can. i don't really understand it either, and people react differently. until i got into recovery, i didn't reaalise that sex work was, in my case at least, really a continuation of sexual abuse. i still can't really work it out. i certainly wouldn't do it in any form clean, fuck i can barely even have super vanilla sex.
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Maybe this is a question I should ask in a PM, but am wondering if you feel
like sex work is inherently toxic for all sex workers on some level?
 
Audiobook said:
The companies get away with making that content bc they use a 18 year old girl that looks very young, so it’s technically legal.

These 18 year old girls do it because they think porn is a great career choice where you can make tons of money.

And that can be true for a small amount of women (even 18 yr old girls) who also know (or can learn) how to manage a career like that and are able to.

For the most part, it does not work out for them tho.

I used to be a camgirl (yes even tho I am a virgin) did not work out for me like it does not work out for most, it’s not easy to have a actual career in the sex industry.

It’s not “easy money”, and for stuff like camming, you have to be very self motivated and very street wise bc there are men that will try and scam you. You also have to be wise with how you spend the money you make.

At the end of the day it’s a business. A lot of people do not understand this at all.

I suspect the reason it remains on porn hub even if it is questionable is that a lot of people probably don’t report it, or maybe it’s known somehow that the girl is from a video where they have records that she is overage.

However I do believe there are videos that are child porn on there, and maybe they get reported and deleted, maybe not.

As long as there is a market for this type of content, they will find a way to produce it.

Also, maybe not for this particular fetish, but for some BDSM fetishes out there, they may seem degrading to women, however even that porn has a market for women, because some women are into that type of sex.

I don’t think for “xtra small teen porn” this plays out a ton, but in some cases it might and that’s why I mention it.

Do I personally like that this porn (with teen girls who look 12) exists, no. Do I personally think PornHub should be promoting it like they do? No.

However at the end of the day if the actress is 18, and they don’t represent her outright as under 18 (tho it’s heavily implied in a lot of cases) it’s not something that much can be done about.
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FuckinAcidMan said:
Morals generally have little to do with legality. I mean oftentimes some of the most astonishingly horrific acts committed by humans have occurred in a completely legal context at the time of their doing.

Pornography being as popular and addictive and gluttonously consumed as it is at the moment, is more a symptom of the crippling disconnection, isolation and loneliness eating away at the common person nowadays.

Unfulfillment romantically, platonically and even with family is the norm for many of us nowadays and it's not surprising that we seek the cheap, easy replacement of prerecorded intimacy, in the form of pornography as well as less sexually via sitcoms, reality shows and other "low brow" television and film.

Not to mention televised mega churches and down home cooking shows.

And the people who make a living streaming video games, providing maintenance doses of synthetic friendship to shut ins and the overworked.

We want friends. We want lovers.

We want to be more than our career and our
worries and our base survival needs.

But often that is a complicated and confusing dance to pull of as we create a more dense, daunting, technologically and financially dominated world for human beings in our current system.
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FuckinAcidMan said:
Morals generally have little to do with legality. I mean oftentimes some of the most astonishingly horrific acts committed by humans have occurred in a completely legal context at the time of their doing.

Pornography being as popular and addictive and gluttonously consumed as it is at the moment, is more a symptom of the crippling disconnection, isolation and loneliness eating away at the common person nowadays.

Unfulfillment romantically, platonically and even with family is the norm for many of us nowadays and it's not surprising that we seek the cheap, easy replacement of prerecorded intimacy, in the form of pornography as well as less sexually via sitcoms, reality shows and other "low brow" television and film.

Not to mention televised mega churches and down home cooking shows.

And the people who make a living streaming video games, providing maintenance doses of synthetic friendship to shut ins and the overworked.

We want friends. We want lovers.

We want to be more than our career and our
worries and our base survival needs.

But often that is a complicated and confusing dance to pull of as we create a more dense, daunting, technologically and financially dominated world for human beings in our current system.
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Great post.
 
MrsGamp said:
Maybe this is a question I should ask in a PM, but am wondering if you feel
like sex work is inherently toxic for all sex workers on some level?
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I hate to speak for other people, but for what it's worth I found it extremely toxic. And for me it was only kind of a backup job to get enough money for my drugs. I can't imagine doing sex work as an every day job.

Even then it was probably a big contributor to what got me fed up enough to leave and get on methadone. It wasn't the only reason but it was one of the larger ones.

Still, it seems hard to believe that there's no women out there who like their job as sex workers and are doing it under no duress.
 
I think you see this mistake in yourself and you throw it over human race, you don't have a question other than a simply Elizabeth's Queen march, that's what you do here. No sense whatsoever. First sentence that's ur question, below rite so below that's what you went over board with -- and you over-think generic affirmations. Why there's such a big marker for this type of pornography? because $. I don't know how other thread contributors bare with this thread, this is my first posts here and I will not continue. Peace, gg
 
real inecst porn?

it's all over the world. Depends, it may be linked to loneliness -- it's a social condition not a mental ilness, not a mental ilness if we talk about a sane individual who has a curiosity. As long as you don't get her pregnant should be beyond fine but there's some over-thinkin statements to be said forward as who reads this ''Well ok, so far so good but what if there's no respect between X and Y'' then yeah there's the problem but as long as both individuals have social life it's fine. I have friends who fucked their sisters and didn't end up in asylums and they see big buildings every day.
 
MrsGamp said:
Maybe this is a question I should ask in a PM, but am wondering if you feel
like sex work is inherently toxic for all sex workers on some level?
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i'm happy to talk about it openly, its actually quite theraputic.

i think that its possible for some women to be doing sex work without it having negative effects on them. if they have not been sexually abused, and are doing it for their own enjoyment, rather than desperation for money for drugs. i think that it may even feel empowering to have such complete ownership over your body. but for such a woman there is always a risk that a punter will cross a line that will tarnish it forever.

for me, according to both a therapist who specialises in sexual abuse and my normal addiction therapist, there was such a clear cause and effect between my sexual abuse and sex work that it was essentially a continuation of the abuse. to survive the abuse, because it went on about a year, i had to become completely numb to what happened to my body to survive, even though i was still obsessed with murdering the perpetrator and still fantasise about it to this day. obviously there are vast differences between abuse and prostitution, but they are inextricably linked. when i stopped using heroin to blot everything out, i was just as haunted, if not more, by the sex work i had done than by the earlier abuse situation i'd been in.
 
My gut feeling, though based on many conversations with female sex workers, is that just about nobody feels enthusiastic about sex work as a career. In a general sense, pretty much everybody doing it wishes they had made different choices (or not suffered the things that led them to it). However, that does not mean that every day is an exercise in degradation and misery. A large proportion of clients are disgusting and regrettable but a small minority are not and spending time with them is not a particular burden and may actually be enjoyable for a lot of working women. That is to say, they’d rather not have to engage in a sexual transaction with that particular man but the experience of doing so itself was not otherwise miserable or degrading. They’d still prefer to be somewhere else doing something else though.

Obviously I am a man and have no insight into the minds or real thoughts and feelings of the women who have said things along these lines to me. Most such conversations came about through just hanging out and smoking ice.
 
Atelier3 said:
A large proportion of clients are disgusting and regrettable but a small minority are not and spending time with them is not a particular burden and may actually be enjoyable for a lot of working women. That is to say, they’d rather not have to engage in a sexual transaction with that particular man but the experience of doing so itself was not otherwise miserable or degrading.
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oh yeah for sure. and tbh there were some guys, close in age to me, who i would totally have fucked anyway and enjoyed it with. one i had such an instant rapport with that i gave him a discount. i did actually have some good sexual expriences. and even those who i wouldn't have slept with anyway and didn't enjoy the actual sex with, i had a regular who actually seemed interested in me as a person and could have a laugh with. being treated like a human being when you're in such a low place is incredibly powerful.

but for the most part it was fat older men trying to get out of using condoms (i did actually go through a phase of charging extra to not use protection then took a long hard look at myself and stopped) and a small minority of complete sickos who i hated with a passion but could charge so much for their requests that it felt worth it.
 
Shady's Fox said:
real inecst porn?

it's all over the world. Depends, it may be linked to loneliness -- it's a social condition not a mental ilness, not a mental ilness if we talk about a sane individual who has a curiosity. As long as you don't get her pregnant should be beyond fine but there's some over-thinkin statements to be said forward as who reads this ''Well ok, so far so good but what if there's no respect between X and Y'' then yeah there's the problem but as long as both individuals have social life it's fine. I have friends who fucked their sisters and didn't end up in asylums and they see big buildings every day.
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So you think incest is ok, as long as it’s consensual? You know of multiple people who have done this?
 
LordOfThisWorld said:
So you think incest is ok, as long as it’s consensual? You know of multiple people who have done this?
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To me, incest is just as abhorrent as paedophilia and the two are often intertwined. Finding a close family member sexually attractive is a sure sign of mental illness - as is finding children sexually attractive.
 
Shady's Fox said:
real inecst porn?

. I have friends who fucked their sisters and didn't end up in asylums and they see big buildings every day.
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you have friends (plural) who have fucked their sisters? - it's difficult to believe but why lie?

fascinating - are you still friends? comfy with them?

really genuinely interested
 
F.U.B.A.R. said:
Could be a SWIM thing going on here... ;)
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I'd imagine it's rare to have a mate who's fucked their sister, and incredibly improbable to know more than one, and even more unlikely to be aware of it

I mean who would advertise that?

Can you imagine, Shady just chillin with his crew and then, after the after-dinner mints, one of them casually refers to fucking their sister? And on more than one occasion?

And I thought some of my friends were freaks - Shady mixing in some very strange circles to say the least
 
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