brooksy2k8
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Based in the UK where apparently its more common, its described as PK Fluffy Cream #3 and is slightly more expensive than another type sold by the same source which is a browner rocky substance. This stuff is really powdery and dry and grinds up easily. It does not fully dissolve without some citric acid. Every other substance by this source is legitimate and relatively good.Skip ahead to the bold text if you dont want to read all the background info, I appreciate not everyone has the time!
First off im new to heroin, usually used to oxycodone 80's which I would primarily enjoy as they lasted pretty much a full day. Ive used 1.5G over the last week with 0.5G remaining, my tolerance was low opiate wise as I hadn't used opiates for a few weeks. It isnt really hitting the spot for me over oxy's and I think I would find it very difficult to overdose, not that I have been trying but I expected to get mild 'opiate sickness' where your feeling very warm and fuzzy yet your physically sick. Maybe im too cautious or just conservative, I just dont feel the need to redose and would probably not feel much more than a very baseline level high if i were to just blow through the small amount I have left.
Now I do feel the 'I can just get one more gram and stop' or 'ill just use it to get through this chore' which we all know is a trap, I don't know how addicted I will be having taken 2g over the space of a week but id rather go through the withdrawals now than further down the line.
ROA's Ive tried
Injecting - So I have sterile clean equipment but have never injected before. I made sure to get fresh supplies and advice from my local needle exchange, it wasn't the nicest experience but I wanted to make sure I did it in the safest way possible. I used about 0.5-1ml leaning towards 1ml which i dont know wether it was too much? Anyway dosage wise I used about 0.05g. It wouldnt mix straight away untill citric acid was added. I didnt burn it with a spoon but I dont know if thats really essential? Anyway time I found a vein straight away and remember feeling very tired and run down initially, I pretty much instantly felt relaxed and was everything appeared brighter for about half an hour, not quite the chilled out feeling of oxy though. Second time I pulled back on the needle and there was no blood so I withdrew the needle, I hit 2 more spots before finding a vein (I know, pretty stupid and I should have thrown it and used new equipment). I have one or two bruises that have pretty much cleared and I cant see any lasting damage although I have no reference. I didnt really feel much from it.
I dont plan to go via this method again I don't think. I wanted to experience it at least once but the dangers really outweigh the high for me. I probably did something wrong somewhere, my very first experience I had no tolerance and had only sniffed a small amount an hour or so beforehand. It was nice, but I got lucky finding a vein straight away unlike the second stab fest where I suspect I still didn't have a good vein as i never felt the full effect. There are almost no signs that I ever injected now, hopefully I havnt done any permanant damage? How long before you in the clear so to speak?
Nasal/Sniffing - If you've read this far you probably think im pretty stupid right about now having had a bad experience with injecting, I have been mainly sniffing it though. I make small lines that have gradually got larger as my tolerance increases, I heavily suspect my nose is clogged up although I can breath through it just fine and do clean it out with saltwater occasionally. Anyway the point of this thread - As it doesn't dissolve in water very well I am wondering if this is being wasteful and there is a more efficient method?
Some people recommend sniffing water afterwards, i find this just goes straight to the back of your throat though bypassing the nasal passages , its difficult to keep it from dripping out of your nose unless your laid down. Perhaps some sort of spray can be made ive read up on people using? Or perhaps, like other methods, the citric acid can be used alongside it somehow?
Plugging - Most Bluelighters I can imagine would find this method disgusting, in my opinion this is a much safer and preferable method to injecting so much that they outweigh injecting by not being nearly as dangerous. I use a sterile spoon, about 0.1g heroin, 5ml of boiled water (I let it cool before plugging but after mixing) and a little bit of citric acid. Everything dissolves and I do get a nice high but it seems to require a fair whack of heroin to be worthwhile compared to sniffing. This doesn;t make alot of sense as it should be a pretty similar ROA but less wasteful.
I am using a 5ml syringe however as deep as it will allow (about 6cm) in either a laid down on my front or side position. I usually leave it for about 10 minutes whilst remianing laid down as the one time i took it straight out I didnt really feel much. Im guessing it may not be deep enough and some of it is being wasted. Even a couple of mls would make a difference to the amount wasted.
Smoking - I have a glass pipe that I have tried this ROA with, i blocked off the bowl and placed the heroin straight in the glass otherwise it would just get stuck/caught in the mesh and probably wasted. Ive heard the smoke can escape very quickly. I had to use about 0.1g and im guessing my method was probably wasteful as it turned into a little liquid ball and very rapidly dissapeared and left a burnt residue - im guessing the glass got too hot but its pretty difficult to keep it at optimal temperature as its so small.
So anyway bit of a long post but I genuinely want to make the most of what I have in the safest way possible. I bet if i were a bit more daring and willing to use major vein sites that are more obvious (like the inner elbow) repeatedly I could make it last waaay more, I just cant justify the danger however.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated, I just have a niggling feeling im not making full use of it and wasting more than necessary. Willing to purchase whatever means are necessary if needs be. Thanks guys
First off im new to heroin, usually used to oxycodone 80's which I would primarily enjoy as they lasted pretty much a full day. Ive used 1.5G over the last week with 0.5G remaining, my tolerance was low opiate wise as I hadn't used opiates for a few weeks. It isnt really hitting the spot for me over oxy's and I think I would find it very difficult to overdose, not that I have been trying but I expected to get mild 'opiate sickness' where your feeling very warm and fuzzy yet your physically sick. Maybe im too cautious or just conservative, I just dont feel the need to redose and would probably not feel much more than a very baseline level high if i were to just blow through the small amount I have left.
Now I do feel the 'I can just get one more gram and stop' or 'ill just use it to get through this chore' which we all know is a trap, I don't know how addicted I will be having taken 2g over the space of a week but id rather go through the withdrawals now than further down the line.
ROA's Ive tried
Injecting - So I have sterile clean equipment but have never injected before. I made sure to get fresh supplies and advice from my local needle exchange, it wasn't the nicest experience but I wanted to make sure I did it in the safest way possible. I used about 0.5-1ml leaning towards 1ml which i dont know wether it was too much? Anyway dosage wise I used about 0.05g. It wouldnt mix straight away untill citric acid was added. I didnt burn it with a spoon but I dont know if thats really essential? Anyway time I found a vein straight away and remember feeling very tired and run down initially, I pretty much instantly felt relaxed and was everything appeared brighter for about half an hour, not quite the chilled out feeling of oxy though. Second time I pulled back on the needle and there was no blood so I withdrew the needle, I hit 2 more spots before finding a vein (I know, pretty stupid and I should have thrown it and used new equipment). I have one or two bruises that have pretty much cleared and I cant see any lasting damage although I have no reference. I didnt really feel much from it.
I dont plan to go via this method again I don't think. I wanted to experience it at least once but the dangers really outweigh the high for me. I probably did something wrong somewhere, my very first experience I had no tolerance and had only sniffed a small amount an hour or so beforehand. It was nice, but I got lucky finding a vein straight away unlike the second stab fest where I suspect I still didn't have a good vein as i never felt the full effect. There are almost no signs that I ever injected now, hopefully I havnt done any permanant damage? How long before you in the clear so to speak?
Nasal/Sniffing - If you've read this far you probably think im pretty stupid right about now having had a bad experience with injecting, I have been mainly sniffing it though. I make small lines that have gradually got larger as my tolerance increases, I heavily suspect my nose is clogged up although I can breath through it just fine and do clean it out with saltwater occasionally. Anyway the point of this thread - As it doesn't dissolve in water very well I am wondering if this is being wasteful and there is a more efficient method?
Some people recommend sniffing water afterwards, i find this just goes straight to the back of your throat though bypassing the nasal passages , its difficult to keep it from dripping out of your nose unless your laid down. Perhaps some sort of spray can be made ive read up on people using? Or perhaps, like other methods, the citric acid can be used alongside it somehow?
Plugging - Most Bluelighters I can imagine would find this method disgusting, in my opinion this is a much safer and preferable method to injecting so much that they outweigh injecting by not being nearly as dangerous. I use a sterile spoon, about 0.1g heroin, 5ml of boiled water (I let it cool before plugging but after mixing) and a little bit of citric acid. Everything dissolves and I do get a nice high but it seems to require a fair whack of heroin to be worthwhile compared to sniffing. This doesn;t make alot of sense as it should be a pretty similar ROA but less wasteful.
I am using a 5ml syringe however as deep as it will allow (about 6cm) in either a laid down on my front or side position. I usually leave it for about 10 minutes whilst remianing laid down as the one time i took it straight out I didnt really feel much. Im guessing it may not be deep enough and some of it is being wasted. Even a couple of mls would make a difference to the amount wasted.
Smoking - I have a glass pipe that I have tried this ROA with, i blocked off the bowl and placed the heroin straight in the glass otherwise it would just get stuck/caught in the mesh and probably wasted. Ive heard the smoke can escape very quickly. I had to use about 0.1g and im guessing my method was probably wasteful as it turned into a little liquid ball and very rapidly dissapeared and left a burnt residue - im guessing the glass got too hot but its pretty difficult to keep it at optimal temperature as its so small.
So anyway bit of a long post but I genuinely want to make the most of what I have in the safest way possible. I bet if i were a bit more daring and willing to use major vein sites that are more obvious (like the inner elbow) repeatedly I could make it last waaay more, I just cant justify the danger however.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated, I just have a niggling feeling im not making full use of it and wasting more than necessary. Willing to purchase whatever means are necessary if needs be. Thanks guys