What typically is in bad cocaine

[AutoTripper]

That's a very dumb answer. If it Is "good" cocaine, shouldnt it be a subjectively good experience? By this i mean, good high, smooth comedown, doesn't burn the nose, oily substance, etc. Why would rat Poison be included in a supposedly good experience? Good cocaine is just that, cocaine hydrochloride. Could be stepped with some additives that dont fk up the experience to increase bulk,risk overdose AND ultimately the dealers pockets. But should be just that, cocaine.

You are right. I don't ever take cocaine, I can't due to exreme allergies and sensitivities from Lyme Disease. I took coke at least 100 times minimum, up until 2005.

But regardless...i was hammered last night very dreamily on kava, acid, cannabus and etizolam.

I saw a crappy documentary on UK tv a good while ago where they revealed how a very common ingredient in cocaine, which is regarded as being good product by users and even still fairly high percentage wise.....

Is some type of worming pill, horses I think. The scientists claimed it enhances effects. But with prolongued use, it had nasty consequences, like the visible, facial wasting and rotting side effects of smoking Ice.

I got muddled last night. I didn't mean rat poison. I meant worming pills.

Somehow my subconscious acquainted them.

 

[F.U.B.A.R.]

You are right. I don't ever take cocaine, I can't due to exreme allergies and sensitivities from Lyme Disease. I took coke at least 100 times minimum, up until 2005.

But regardless...i was hammered last night very dreamily on kava, acid, cannabus and etizolam.

I saw a crappy documentary on UK tv a good while ago where they revealed how a very common ingredient in cocaine, which is regarded as being good product by users and even still fairly high percentage wise.....

Is some type of worming pill, horses I think. The scientists claimed it enhances effects. But with prolongued use, it had nasty consequences, like the visible, facial wasting and rotting side effects of smoking Ice.

I got muddled last night. I didn't mean rat poison. I meant worming pills.

Somehow my subconscious acquainted them.

That will be Levamisole...

Levamisole - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[nznity]

You are right. I don't ever take cocaine, I can't due to exreme allergies and sensitivities from Lyme Disease. I took coke at least 100 times minimum, up until 2005.

But regardless...i was hammered last night very dreamily on kava, acid, cannabus and etizolam.

I saw a crappy documentary on UK tv a good while ago where they revealed how a very common ingredient in cocaine, which is regarded as being good product by users and even still fairly high percentage wise.....

Is some type of worming pill, horses I think. The scientists claimed it enhances effects. But with prolongued use, it had nasty consequences, like the visible, facial wasting and rotting side effects of smoking Ice.

I got muddled last night. I didn't mean rat poison. I meant worming pills.

Somehow my subconscious acquainted them.

levamisole, thank god they stomp the coke with that shit after it leaves my country(Perú). The best cocaine here, has no smell(that gasoline smell everyone talks about thati s acetone), it's purified with ether and you end up with a very fine, crystalline clean product. Even HERE that kind of product is expensive as fuck, but the experience is so much different than doing regular blow. 1 GRAM of true COCAINE HYDROCHLORIDE should be enough for you to party an entire night.

 

[AutoTripper]

levamisole, thank god they stomp the coke with that shit after it leaves my country(Perú). The best cocaine here, has no smell(that gasoline smell everyone talks about thati s acetone), it's purified with ether and you end up with a very fine, crystalline clean product. Even HERE that kind of product is expensive as fuck, but the experience is so much different than doing regular blow. 1 GRAM of true COCAINE HYDROCHLORIDE should be enough for you to party an entire night.

I agree with that. And that would be in reference to very heavy users with a high tolerance and requirement.

Ecstasy and Lsd were my own drugs of choice. Plus shrooms, and eventually Ketamine, but the ketamine was largely due to me so regularly taking the psychedelic compounds it was more of a compliment and assistance with come down and midweek blues etc it would always bring me back up on my trips from several days beforehand as well.

I had several friends who were really into cocaine and crack a little but much more so before they started spending time with me I was never into crack although I did absolutely love the effects of course just not the company and the effect it had on other people and even my own self and personality at the time of using.

So the main reason I took cocaine whenever I did was simply part of the whole social set up at the time, instigated with indescribable excitement by good close friends who I trusted and felt really comfortable to be with in any situation.

Back in 2000 to 2003, we were paying £50 for 0.8 of shaveable Peruvian flake rock cocaine and it was surprising three of us long-term drug users for any tire night comfortably and easily and we were still headshot the whole of the next day.

No idea what the purity percentage of that stuff was back then but even one third of a gram of some really good quality stuff was enough for my friend who had been a long-term heavy user and myself who was a cocaine lightweight admittedly.

One whole gram of pure coke, in a single night, should be more than enough to satisfy all but the most hardcore cocaine abusers and addicts, IMO.

 

[nznity]

I agree with that. And that would be in reference to very heavy users with a high tolerance and requirement.

Ecstasy and Lsd were my own drugs of choice. Plus shrooms, and eventually Ketamine, but the ketamine was largely due to me so regularly taking the psychedelic compounds it was more of a compliment and assistance with come down and midweek blues etc it would always bring me back up on my trips from several days beforehand as well.

I had several friends who were really into cocaine and crack a little but much more so before they started spending time with me I was never into crack although I did absolutely love the effects of course just not the company and the effect it had on other people and even my own self and personality at the time of using.

So the main reason I took cocaine whenever I did was simply part of the whole social set up at the time, instigated with indescribable excitement by good close friends who I trusted and felt really comfortable to be with in any situation.

Back in 2000 to 2003, we were paying £50 for 0.8 of shaveable Peruvian flake rock cocaine and it was surprising three of us long-term drug users for any tire night comfortably and easily and we were still headshot the whole of the next day.

No idea what the purity percentage of that stuff was back then but even one third of a gram of some really good quality stuff was enough for my friend who had been a long-term heavy user and myself who was a cocaine lightweight admittedly.

One whole gram of pure coke, in a single night, should be more than enough to satisfy all but the most hardcore cocaine abusers and addicts, IMO.

I was on the Verge to od one night i snorted 2g of high quality powder by myself.

 

[AutoTripper]

I was on the Verge to od one night i snorted 2g of high quality powder by myself.

That doesn't surprise me the slightest.

Cocaine is a strong drug. Underestimated at times, even by experienced users.

Crack cocaine even more so.

I guess we all have our own fortes huh? Like, 1 to 1.4 grams pure MDMA was just a normal night to me, lots ketamine and weed to accompany.

With Cocaine, I was always much more sensitive to it. I didn't need nearly as much as hard core coke heads, no way.

 

[nznity]

That doesn't surprise me the slightest.

Cocaine is a strong drug. Underestimated at times, even by experienced users.

Crack cocaine even more so.

I guess we all have our own fortes huh? Like, 1 to 1.4 grams pure MDMA was just a normal night to me, lots ketamine and weed to accompany.

With Cocaine, I was always much more sensitive to it. I didn't need nearly as much as hard core coke heads, no way.

Ppl are used to getting shit cocaine, the few times I've encountered REAL coke and that's even rare here in Perú. Trust me a 150mg line has u on top of the World for 45min-1hr at least.

 

[Gormur]

I thought levamisole was added before distribution. Maybe it depends on which country it's coming from

This makes me glad the first gram I ever had was magical. That lasted me a week. The bleeding put me off a bit towards the end. It was my first inhaled drug, so I left the remainder in ammonia to turn into freebase crystal, simply amazing

After some research though the levamisole scared me. I've still done a bit here and there since 2008, when I started with it. Like I said I prefer to not inhale the hcl though

 

[LandsUnknown]

Sometimes, it could be just baking sod, caffeine, or some other harmless adulterant that makes it less potent but not really harmful per say. Though, levisamole is quite common and also potentially quite harmful, as it can cause brain damage over time.

The worst case scenario would be some sort of RCs, which would essentially mean you're taking a completely different drug than you intended to. This is a potential risk with any sort of drug in powdered form or non pharmaceutical pills.

The only way to know what's in it is to test it, which is definitely the safest way to use this sort of drug. You can get test kits from lots of different places easily. The side effects you've had could be from an adulterant or the coke itself. It's hard to say.

 

[Deru]

The problem with the reagent tests available is they are severely limited, and will barely tell you even close to what's in the product in totality. The smartest way seems to be sending it to that lab to get tested, but it's like 100 dollars per sample to be tested I believe (for the US). Either that, or just doing an acid/base extraction would probably yield the safest alternative. Levamisole is such a horrible chemical they use to cut it with. It can also cause horrible, painful ulcers as well.

 

[PGking]

The only way to tell how pure is to wash it up. But cheap cuts like caffeine sometimes amphetamines and diet pills. Mainly nova or lyza

 

[crazyhairman]

Idk what they cut it with nowadays but they might've cut it with ephedrine or pseudoephedrine for that effect. But I've also seen baby laxative, BC headache powder, vitamin c, random pills, Tylenol, dry wall , baking soda.

Really shitty coke dealers might step on it 15 times before it gets to the end user in some instances. Typical industry standard is a 8% cut at the kilo trafficing level as soon as it enters the country. That would be a lidocaine, benzocaine, something of that nature.
Depends on the geographic location and wholesaler or organization that supplies it down the chain.

I only knew local dealers in a smaller market. By the time they got it it was cut once or 4 times depending on the vendor. Some say cutting it is part of the game , others say no way .

We had a guy who's stuff was so bad the joke was you just ad water and it rocked itself up. Another guy never cut his but sometimes it was short.

Worst I ever had was baby laxative, I passed out for 15 minutes woke up and shit my brains out. Everyone in the apartment laughed at me. Happy 18th birthday courtesy of a guy called bird.

 

[chippermonk]

Last time I did some, it numbed me ok and tasted in the nose like coke. It gave me a big rush, but there was zero euphoria, just a feeling of being too amped up. Short lasting. It just didn't feel right so I threw the rest out. No idea what it was but coke is supposed to feel better than that.

 

[BWG707]

Back in the late ‘70’s through the ‘80’s most people used mannitol (baby laxative). Sometimes people would use vitamin B12, which was very nasty and extremely noticeable.

 

[emkee_reinvented]

The product 30 years ago was always top quality, besides the residual leftovers of what they use. Especially that Kerosine like odour is very paticular. Never heard of acetone washes or cleaning a product up, no i-net yet.

But this was stuff from Jamaicans or Marrocans. Some other dealers I knew, MDMA and Speed. Where when sitting there for a moment. Basickly waiting to buy MDMA and leave, why are some dealers so annoyingly slow? Right before my eyes they are cutting Coke, with Inositol from a banded jar in a mixing device. Now is Inositol not even that bad, maybe it is snorted?

But as they also sold so i bought it once. Why dont know, as the good shit was sold 200 meters further.
But my experience with their Coke, the watered down version. It just didt do it.
So maybe they got meh-Coke as start material,. As doing more compensating the cut, never gave the numbing euphoric effects of Coke. Felt only a bit like it, waste of money.

Their MDMA sucked to about 1:1, so 50% chance, so dismissed them. Their Speed was consistently good, 'dat dan weer wel'. Probably their DOC. But as the saying goes 'dont get high on your own supply'
And in reality that seemed true as all my sober dealers had great product, some that sold MDMA even had it tested before selling it. Quality control.

But buying good Coke from a white guy never happened to me. They all had cut in it, unlike the Jamaican/ Marrocan stuff.

 

[MedicinalUser247]

Baby laxative

Funny thing is that cocaine makes you take a shit in the first place due to the stimulation. And to just double that effect ? That's just wrong. Anyway, I don't think such a small amount of baby laxative would have any effect on you in the first place.

 

[kreativsniks]

I've done reagent testing for both - cocaine concentration and additives (fillers) and the results have been all over the place. Most of all coke that scored high on concentration test also contained some sort of filler (+inactive 'bulk' filler often too), it could be stuff like ephedrine (rare tho), caffeine, levasimole and I'm sure (although I didn't have test for it) plenty of times some stimulant (and even downers too) RC.

I don't really like/enjoy like I used to. Now I see it only worthwhile (and still it's debatable) for certain scenarios - going on a date, spending quality time with girl, but even after doing so called good coke it's very tiring for my body, I hate the dopamine crash which is both - immediately and on the next couple of days.

What baffles me is this. In Eastern Europe where I hail from, now days the market is full of shitty coke and just so awfully many people use it and from what I've noticed, there are a lot of people who don't even care about quality, they just want to snort/experience some kind of rush, it's horrible, because of how much harm this chemical frankenstein is doing to peoples bodies..

Sorry for the long rant.

 

[chippermonk]

I've done reagent testing for both - cocaine concentration and additives (fillers) and the results have been all over the place. Most of all coke that scored high on concentration test also contained some sort of filler (+inactive 'bulk' filler often too), it could be stuff like ephedrine (rare tho), caffeine, levasimole and I'm sure (although I didn't have test for it) plenty of times some stimulant (and even downers too) RC.

I don't really like/enjoy like I used to. Now I see it only worthwhile (and still it's debatable) for certain scenarios - going on a date, spending quality time with girl, but even after doing so called good coke it's very tiring for my body, I hate the dopamine crash which is both - immediately and on the next couple of days.

What baffles me is this. In Eastern Europe where I hail from, now days the market is full of shitty coke and just so awfully many people use it and from what I've noticed, there are a lot of people who don't even care about quality, they just want to snort/experience some kind of rush, it's horrible, because of how much harm this chemical frankenstein is doing to peoples bodies..

Sorry for the long rant.

I suspect a lot of people just take it because of the image and reputation. It's like how people buy expensive name brand consumer goods: like who gives a fuck about Gucci except for the name? And I admit that in my mind coke seems like a better quality idea, even if the reality is shitty. All I know, that last batch I did needed to be thrown away: Big rush but no good

 

[3DQSAR]

I've been told that the reason the coca plants used to make cocaine are grown at high altitudes (and other specific conditions) is to avoid the plant producing other alkaloids.

Poor quality production can also result in other unwanted tropane impurities.

That's BEFORE anyone dilutes the stuff.

 

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