mal3volent
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I think most people would do it voluntarily rather than infect their loved ones.
Covid-19 Outbreak of new SARS-like coronavirus (Covid-19)
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I think most people would do it voluntarily rather than infect their loved ones.
JessFR
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The logic seems to go something like this.
Models aren't 100% accurate, therefore they're useless and shouldn't be used whatsoever.
F.U.B.A.R.
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Dr Fauci hoping we don't have so many infected that we actually have herd immunity
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Dr Fauci hoping we don't have so many infected that we actual have herd immunitywww.c-span.org
Well done everyone. Your compliance has been so successful, the virus is off the streets. However, this means it's being spread behind closed doors. So the WHO now wants sick family members removed and quarantined. Just remember, Big Brother Loves You! https://t.co/Wo57wCWrjb
The whole point of staying indoors is to prevent the spread of infection. So what exactly are you trying to say?
Captain.Heroin
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In the event of a viral outbreak, it makes sense to prevent it becoming totally pandemic.
There was no stopping this, however, literally there was no way it could have been done.
Attaining herd immunity may prevent endless mutations/recurrences of this virus. Or not, what do I know... I don't have a horse in this race as I've already been sick as shit and there's no going back.
I have tomorrow off as well. I feel you
Its also kind of scary to see how management is pretty oblivious to what in the fuck is actually happening. Upper management.. Ill tell you what.. Why don't you come run my route with me. Don't worry I only come in contact with 1000's of people daily. I'm an upbeat positive person, but I'm writing a will tomorrow as I will certainly be exposed to this fuckikng virus.I'm also starting my route at midnight so I can do all my work when the stores are closed.
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next time you drive your car, assuming you are capable of driving and are not uber gretan, do you use a model to steer or do you look out the windshield?
Now try driving your car with the windshield painted out, just the rear view mirror and a cretin like Neil Ferguson who can't drive himself telling you which way to turn and whether to speed up or brake, where do you think your car will end up?
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JGrimez
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A pandemic is like the royal flush of the global control game.
No wonder they've been so obsessed with it.
-Restricts the ability to gather in groups (no more protests)
-Restricts movement of people
-Conditions us to those restrictions
-Suspends democracy under a state of emergency with no clear end in sight
-Increases dependence on unelected ‘experts’ and ‘advisors’ for decision-making
-Limits human contact and physical affection
-Creates suspicion of each other
-Encourages snitching and calling out those who ‘disobey’ the rules
-Creates a state of fear and anxiety
-Makes us more dependent on technology
-Disconnects us from nature
-Destroys the global economic system
-Puts governments into debt
-Wipes out millions of jobs
-Cripples small businesses
-Makes us dependent on the state
-Disrupts supply chains
-Creates justification for further censorship (stop the spread of disinformation)
No wonder they've been so obsessed with it.
-Restricts the ability to gather in groups (no more protests)
-Restricts movement of people
-Conditions us to those restrictions
-Suspends democracy under a state of emergency with no clear end in sight
-Increases dependence on unelected ‘experts’ and ‘advisors’ for decision-making
-Limits human contact and physical affection
-Creates suspicion of each other
-Encourages snitching and calling out those who ‘disobey’ the rules
-Creates a state of fear and anxiety
-Makes us more dependent on technology
-Disconnects us from nature
-Destroys the global economic system
-Puts governments into debt
-Wipes out millions of jobs
-Cripples small businesses
-Makes us dependent on the state
-Disrupts supply chains
-Creates justification for further censorship (stop the spread of disinformation)
Xorkoth
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So in a pandemic governments should do nothing then?
I agree these things could be done, maybe some of them are in some places. But also, pandemics happen and governments have a moral obligation to minimize harm.
But it's lose-lose for governments in the eyes of those who believe this is a conspiracy, because when damage is minimized, it was proof it was staged. And if 20 million people end up dying because they did nothing, then they should have done something.
Why would governments want to wipe out millions of jobs, disrupt supply chains, and cause a global recession? Governments want us to be productive. Those in charge want their grunt workers to make them money.
I agree these things could be done, maybe some of them are in some places. But also, pandemics happen and governments have a moral obligation to minimize harm.
But it's lose-lose for governments in the eyes of those who believe this is a conspiracy, because when damage is minimized, it was proof it was staged. And if 20 million people end up dying because they did nothing, then they should have done something.
Why would governments want to wipe out millions of jobs, disrupt supply chains, and cause a global recession? Governments want us to be productive. Those in charge want their grunt workers to make them money.
mal3volent
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im not sure why he's laughing...but I'm laughing because jgrimez supports Trump (the most powerful individual person on Earth) , yet he still wants to imagine this world where the "Powers that be" are conspiring against his interests. TRUMP and HIS administration, appointees, judiciary, Senate...they ARE the powers that be.
This whole thing would make much more sense if Obama or Hillary were president. But they aren't. Trump has been the leader of the free world since January 2017. It's now April 2020. if there's a conspiracy going on, it more than likely involves HIM.
Good Lord mal.. I trust in you.. the rest of that I can make neither heads, nor tails of .. So here we go...…..
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I might suggest to stop laughing as the page number is now more than 55
JessFR
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That's the thing about extremists. Their loyalty to the underlying position is immovable. It doesn't matter what happens, they find some way to get it to still make sense to them.
It doesn't matter how many times they're wrong, how many times their predictions fail, their world view retroactively adjusts to maintain the underlying premise.
Which is why increasingly I make no real attempt to argue it. It's a complete waste of time. Increasingly I find I just avoid ceps all together for this reason.
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just what i need
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So those testimonies contradict what citizen journalists on the ground are filming and what we can verify. I like how there was a DRAWING of a hospital at the beginning. A lot of the testimonies are based on "what might happen" not what is actually happening.
Good question and investigating that further will lead to answers regarding this totalitarian takeover. The financial collapse was going to happen anyway and when it did then the governments would be to blame and citizens would calling for their heads for allowing that to happen. Now with this virus scare they can absolve themselves of blame while also directing the collapse into the new system that they're planning. Which is about total control and dependence on the state. Notice the anti-government sentiments and protests which were happening globally? Now that's all been quashed and instead of fighting against corrupt governments, people are demanding that those corrupt governments not only save them but also keep them locked inside their homes. Quite the turnaround!
No, world leaders more or less answer to the Powers That Be and the real controllers are in the shadows. Politicians are mostly useful idiots that are there to take the blame while executing the orders that they're given. There are a few leaders atm who are resisting these globalist demands but the vast majority of countries are simply doing what they're told (in a remarkably coordinated effort).
That's the thing about sheep. They'll find justifications for any creeping authoritarianism and rat out their neighbours like little Nazis as they've been brainwashed into fearing for the lives.
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When people get scared of reality and their previously-cherished belief systems come crashing down, all they can do is laugh and ridicule the people showing them what's happening.
It's a coping mechanism but unfortunately it's a denial of the reality that they're experiencing.
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"I've said it before, and I'll say it again, because it's 100% true as evidenced by CDC guidelines (which are replicated in other countries) as to how to fill out death certificates during the BULLSHIT pandemic in order to ARTIFICIALLY and VASTLY INFLATE the mortality rate from covid-19.
"IT IS IMPORTANT TO EMPHASIZE Covid-19 should be reported on the death certificate for all decedents where the disease caused or IS ASSUMED TO HAVE CAUSED OR CONTRIBUTED to death.
IF THE DECEDENT HAD OTHER CHRONIC CONDITIONS such as COPD or Asthma that may have also contributed, these conditions can be reported in part II."
Part II of a death certificate does not record the cause of death, that's done in part 1, where anyone who can be "assumed" to have died to covid-19 will have covid-19 registered as the "underlying cause of death" when the ACTUAL cause of death will be effectively an addendum in part II.
In 2018, 655,000 Americans were officially recorded (on their death certificates) as having died from "diseases of the heart".
That's a monthly average of 54,583.
If we assume that average applies also to this year (the trend over the last 5 years is upwards) it means that, this month, doctors in the USA can assign every single one of those 54,583 deaths from diseases of the heart" to "codiv-19".
There are also 13,000 monthly deaths from "chronic lower respiratory diseases", 7 thousand deaths from "diabetes", 6,000 deaths from "influenza and pneumonia" that are up for grabs.
Overall, there are more than 80,000 deaths per month in the USA that last year (and every year before) were attributed to the above mentioned chronic diseases, that this month (and next month and the month after) can and very likely WILL be attributed to covid-19.
It is important to note that in filling out death certificates, doctors are specifically told that the cause of death "should be YOUR best medical opinion".
Given the outlines given by the CDC, and the hysteria that has been spread by governments and the media around covid-19, what do you think most doctors would include as the cause of death in a patient who died from any kind of chronic respiratory disease?
Et voila. There's your "pandemic numbers".
"IT IS IMPORTANT TO EMPHASIZE Covid-19 should be reported on the death certificate for all decedents where the disease caused or IS ASSUMED TO HAVE CAUSED OR CONTRIBUTED to death.
IF THE DECEDENT HAD OTHER CHRONIC CONDITIONS such as COPD or Asthma that may have also contributed, these conditions can be reported in part II."
Part II of a death certificate does not record the cause of death, that's done in part 1, where anyone who can be "assumed" to have died to covid-19 will have covid-19 registered as the "underlying cause of death" when the ACTUAL cause of death will be effectively an addendum in part II.
In 2018, 655,000 Americans were officially recorded (on their death certificates) as having died from "diseases of the heart".
That's a monthly average of 54,583.
If we assume that average applies also to this year (the trend over the last 5 years is upwards) it means that, this month, doctors in the USA can assign every single one of those 54,583 deaths from diseases of the heart" to "codiv-19".
There are also 13,000 monthly deaths from "chronic lower respiratory diseases", 7 thousand deaths from "diabetes", 6,000 deaths from "influenza and pneumonia" that are up for grabs.
Overall, there are more than 80,000 deaths per month in the USA that last year (and every year before) were attributed to the above mentioned chronic diseases, that this month (and next month and the month after) can and very likely WILL be attributed to covid-19.
It is important to note that in filling out death certificates, doctors are specifically told that the cause of death "should be YOUR best medical opinion".
Given the outlines given by the CDC, and the hysteria that has been spread by governments and the media around covid-19, what do you think most doctors would include as the cause of death in a patient who died from any kind of chronic respiratory disease?
Et voila. There's your "pandemic numbers".
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Don't Believe Everything You Read About Flu Deaths (Huffpost - 2014)
Montana physician Dr. Annie Bukacek discusses how COVID 19 death certificates are being manipulated
As I've been saying, repeatedly: doctors who fill out death certificates traditionally DO NOT KNOW the exact cause of death and essentially give their best educated GUESS. There is a very good reason for this: the exact cause of death in most cases is very difficult to determine.
NOW, however, the WHO and CDC have given complete clarity to doctors around the world by telling them that they SHOULD use the code for Covid-19 when any person under their care dies with symptoms that could be construed as 'covid-19'. This is DESPITE the fact that the vast majority of people dying "with covid-19" have SERIOUS UNDERLYING CHRONIC CONDITIONS THAT ARE THE OBVIOUS AND REAL CAUSE OF DEATH.
In such cases, a flu-like illnesses never has, and never should, be recorded as the official cause of death.
Again. This is the reason for the "pandemic numbers". There is the reason for the lock downs. That is to say, a BOGUS reason.
Montana physician Dr. Annie Bukacek discusses how COVID 19 death certificates are being manipulated
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As I've been saying, repeatedly: doctors who fill out death certificates traditionally DO NOT KNOW the exact cause of death and essentially give their best educated GUESS. There is a very good reason for this: the exact cause of death in most cases is very difficult to determine.
NOW, however, the WHO and CDC have given complete clarity to doctors around the world by telling them that they SHOULD use the code for Covid-19 when any person under their care dies with symptoms that could be construed as 'covid-19'. This is DESPITE the fact that the vast majority of people dying "with covid-19" have SERIOUS UNDERLYING CHRONIC CONDITIONS THAT ARE THE OBVIOUS AND REAL CAUSE OF DEATH.
In such cases, a flu-like illnesses never has, and never should, be recorded as the official cause of death.
Again. This is the reason for the "pandemic numbers". There is the reason for the lock downs. That is to say, a BOGUS reason.
Blowmonkey
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Apparently domestic violence is up during all this lockdown/martial law stuff, but this takes it to a whole other level.
www.nbcnews.com
They didn't even have it, damn.
Overhere there's talks about a government corona app which tracks you 24/7, just to see if you potentially come or have come into contact with a rona victim. Places where it's been rolled out voluntarily people apparently don't use it enough to be statistically significant, so they're thinking about making it mandatory.
9/11 repurcussions were pretty nasty, but this is some 1984 shit. Not that we had much privacy left anyways, but c'mon, makes me wanna hammer my phone.
Illinois man who feared girlfriend had COVID-19 fatally shoots her, himself
The sheriff's office said that during the COVID-19 pandemic, the vast majority of service calls involve domestic disputes and crisis intervention.
www.nbcnews.com
They didn't even have it, damn.
Overhere there's talks about a government corona app which tracks you 24/7, just to see if you potentially come or have come into contact with a rona victim. Places where it's been rolled out voluntarily people apparently don't use it enough to be statistically significant, so they're thinking about making it mandatory.
9/11 repurcussions were pretty nasty, but this is some 1984 shit. Not that we had much privacy left anyways, but c'mon, makes me wanna hammer my phone.
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