ThePredecessor
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50mg if Hexen plugged with 30mg U4 makes for the most pleasurable RC speedball lol
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RCs hexen (n-ethyl hexedrone)?
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morethrottle
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Noob here and wanted to share first Hexen experience. Experience with other stims(Eph, MPA, MDAI, 3-FPM, and a few oddball RC's) and cleared heads so no interference from other substances. Decided prior to the first test to titrate as usual with new substance. 30 min later and no problems, but less than 3mg weighed for test and it was noticeable in the body. Decided with my lady that we would each plug 25mg dissolved in 2ml warm water. Waited 10 min and then went about our party. Noticed the aforementioned come-up within 15 min. Subtle and nice. Substantial euphoria for me, less for her. But better than MPA or 3-F on that note. About 40 min after the plug we measured another 25mg each and railed it. Definite burn but not insane. Then numb. Rinsed with saline. The comparable rush as noted to coke lasted about an hour. Then followed by 6-7 hours of energetic high just under the Eph range. Not as much body load, but killed my toy just as bad as the worst stims out there. We made the best of it and the party lasted longer than anticipated, with the help of some Acetyldenfil. Hexen is not as short duration as anticipated, but not as long as Eph. She added some MDAI to the last few hours as she gets more out of that mix. I am saving that party for another day. Slightly moorish, but we control that and it is easier since we both hate the backside of these playthings. I was tired and ready for sleep 10 hours after start. She needed Etiz to nod off. All in all an enjoyable, cost-effective and predictable new element. Can see how this could get out of hand. Use this wisely, clean your cavities after use, and play safe.
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....about to order
third_eye_lasik
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I know I am in the extreme minority but I enjoy this one oral at 60-70mg in one dose. Takes around 1 and half hours to kick in and while there isn't a strong rush it feels really euphoric and lasts for 3 hours. I can do it this way where I only redose once(right be sexy time with girl or porn watching). When snorting it feels much better but leaves quickly, causes immense nose pain and it's like pringles....can't stop once I pop. Overall great chem for a partial "perv" without all the extreme sexual quests that the pv's would cause. With a low dose of benzo towords the end you can ride the comedown out with music which is greatly enhanced.
closeyoureyes
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small doses (bump around up to 20mg's)compare to amphetamine
and can even be functional, however duration is short.
bigger doses provide a huge dopamine rush, coke-like, but more scatterbrained, but you also feel calm at the same time. It doesn't make sense but it doesn't bother me.
Its accompanied by this pleasant numbness, huge-confidence boost, and a sincere need to communicate with other human beings.
Thoughts race out of you at the speed of light and you just feel incredible. This is amazing.
The effect is in no way worse than of any other classical stimulant, maybe it's different.
in a way maybe it's even better than any that I know.... and I know a lot.
The darkside of this, however isn't that great.
Cold limbs and stimdik are more prominent than with any other substance.
Body toxicity isn't as bad as with some other stuff, but instant depression is very noticable.
Emptyness inside and anxiety take hold, but they seem to dissappear after some sleep.
Addiction potential is huge.
At one point redosing just stops working. But while it does. It feels so tempting to take one more bump.
And if you do take "just one bump" there sure will be another very soon no matter what you promised yourself before. Very insidiuos.
No other substance made me so irrational with it's usage. Recovery is rather fast with this one, so that's why it's as tempting as before!
Anyways, this is a good RC. Shame it revealed to me that I have much less self control than i previously thought I had.
Can't stop thinking about it. Shit. I don;t want to flush it...
and can even be functional, however duration is short.
bigger doses provide a huge dopamine rush, coke-like, but more scatterbrained, but you also feel calm at the same time. It doesn't make sense but it doesn't bother me.
Its accompanied by this pleasant numbness, huge-confidence boost, and a sincere need to communicate with other human beings.
Thoughts race out of you at the speed of light and you just feel incredible. This is amazing.
The effect is in no way worse than of any other classical stimulant, maybe it's different.
in a way maybe it's even better than any that I know.... and I know a lot.
The darkside of this, however isn't that great.
Cold limbs and stimdik are more prominent than with any other substance.
Body toxicity isn't as bad as with some other stuff, but instant depression is very noticable.
Emptyness inside and anxiety take hold, but they seem to dissappear after some sleep.
Addiction potential is huge.
At one point redosing just stops working. But while it does. It feels so tempting to take one more bump.
And if you do take "just one bump" there sure will be another very soon no matter what you promised yourself before. Very insidiuos.
No other substance made me so irrational with it's usage. Recovery is rather fast with this one, so that's why it's as tempting as before!
Anyways, this is a good RC. Shame it revealed to me that I have much less self control than i previously thought I had.
Can't stop thinking about it. Shit. I don;t want to flush it...
llamer
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Flush it already. this drug is addictive as fuck. smoking it gives a meth rush and a pretty good relaxed tweaked out feeling for hours and hours. In fact this stuff reminded me a lot of tweak, except gave a trippy visual thing on higher doses. the versatility of this is what makes it so alluring - good functional stim to get your ass out of bed and straight to work at 15-25 mg doses, then you start hitting the foil after work and don't stop til sunrise. with a bit of weed in you the feeling of your brain rippling with current across the synapses feels just as good as decent crack. and just like all the familiar street drugs with this it's almost impossible to stop the vaping once you start; you actually have to be so high as to forget about the foil and tube sitting in your hand, then you put it down once you realize you're still holding it. 30 minutes later you do it all over again.
definitely the gnarliest cathinone out there since 4-mmc
definitely the gnarliest cathinone out there since 4-mmc
THEWALL93
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Took about 250mg at once, 50mg nasal and 200mg orally.
Did not took any stims the last 4 days, just my meds Escitalopram 20mg, Trazolan 100mg, Seroquel 100mg.
First off all I felt like I've been woken up big time: started to clean my house like a machine and I did felt pretty good. Then I started to feel like I was far away from reality, for example music did not 'came in' normally. Little bit anxious too. Possibly should have done a lower dose, like 70mg. Would not recommend this stuff at this dosage, because I'm very used to stims and did not had bad experiences for years. Take care with this NDRI y'all and have a nice day
Did not took any stims the last 4 days, just my meds Escitalopram 20mg, Trazolan 100mg, Seroquel 100mg.
First off all I felt like I've been woken up big time: started to clean my house like a machine and I did felt pretty good. Then I started to feel like I was far away from reality, for example music did not 'came in' normally. Little bit anxious too. Possibly should have done a lower dose, like 70mg. Would not recommend this stuff at this dosage, because I'm very used to stims and did not had bad experiences for years. Take care with this NDRI y'all and have a nice day
Limpet_Chicken
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Read the thread on it in EADD, folks. This stuff sounds TERRIBLE. I wouldn't touch it with a twenty foot metal pole carved from plutonium and covered in the putrescent faecal matter of a dog that just squirted out its last liquid, parasite-riddled stream of shit in its death-throes having contracted and died from rabies. Not in a million fucking years of sundays .
Its described in EADD as extremely compulsive, VERY corrosive to the nose, and despite urges to redose, doing so apparently doesn't get you anywhere but feeling like utter crap. Said to have a godawful comedown too.
Generally, from the reports in EADD it sounds like vile trash of a kind that I wouldn't befoul my lab equipment to synthesize. Fuck no. No way in hell made flesh. If I did, I wouldn't be surprised if the flasks and condensers, while in pristine condition beforehand, suddenly disintegrated into a pile of borosilicate shards and dust due to the gross insult I had delivered to my otherwise perfect glassware. And that glassware has had everything by way of godawful nasty ass shit in there, from divalent mercury salts, to iodine monochloride, iodine trichloride, bromine, bromine monochloride, chlorine gas, 98-99% sulfuric acid, white phosphorus and thionyl chloride (no, not all at the same time, I did once test the reactivity of iodine monochloride with (red) phosphorus, at a microscale, a few hundred mg of red phosphorus placed upon the stepping stone of the back garden door, and with a pipette, placed a single drop, perhaps two, of ICl onto the phosphorus. The result was instantaneous, bursting into flames most violently, almost like flashpowder, with, if any, a delay that would be measured in the milliseconds to microseconds. Contact=WOOMF!, leaving phosphenes dancing before my be-goggled eyes from the brilliance of the flash.)
But despite the rather virulent nature of some of the things that have been in those flasks, beakers, condensers, vacuum distillation adapters etc., I would not think to disgrace the pride and joy, the lab, which is my life's work, starting when I was a pre-teen, and still going, albeit with far greater sophisticated equipment now that I am of course, old enough to have an internet connection, a bank card and an income with which to purchase a large selection of reagents and lab glass, electrical equipment etc. such as vacuum pumps, rotavap, power supplies and the like, rather than having to rely on a pittance of pocket money and whatever I could make by selling scrap lead and copper, stuffed with cement, rocks, dirt, and whatever else heavy I could get my hands on, to scrap metal merchants, selling flowers picked from roadside cherry trees, and any other endeavours that my childhood self could make money on, even if it did mean spending most of the day after coming back from school climbing trees and grabbing the flowers to sell door to door, to buy OTC concentrated sulfuric acid, potassium permanganate, HCl, NaOH, ammonia and anything else by way of reagents, spare blowtorch gas canisters and fresh cartridges for my gas mask.
I'd never befoul my beloved lab gear with such irredeemable filth. I'd about as soon lavish praises upon a fucking pig officer as either take, or make this garbage, after what I've read about it.
Its described in EADD as extremely compulsive, VERY corrosive to the nose, and despite urges to redose, doing so apparently doesn't get you anywhere but feeling like utter crap. Said to have a godawful comedown too.
Generally, from the reports in EADD it sounds like vile trash of a kind that I wouldn't befoul my lab equipment to synthesize. Fuck no. No way in hell made flesh. If I did, I wouldn't be surprised if the flasks and condensers, while in pristine condition beforehand, suddenly disintegrated into a pile of borosilicate shards and dust due to the gross insult I had delivered to my otherwise perfect glassware. And that glassware has had everything by way of godawful nasty ass shit in there, from divalent mercury salts, to iodine monochloride, iodine trichloride, bromine, bromine monochloride, chlorine gas, 98-99% sulfuric acid, white phosphorus and thionyl chloride (no, not all at the same time, I did once test the reactivity of iodine monochloride with (red) phosphorus, at a microscale, a few hundred mg of red phosphorus placed upon the stepping stone of the back garden door, and with a pipette, placed a single drop, perhaps two, of ICl onto the phosphorus. The result was instantaneous, bursting into flames most violently, almost like flashpowder, with, if any, a delay that would be measured in the milliseconds to microseconds. Contact=WOOMF!, leaving phosphenes dancing before my be-goggled eyes from the brilliance of the flash.)
But despite the rather virulent nature of some of the things that have been in those flasks, beakers, condensers, vacuum distillation adapters etc., I would not think to disgrace the pride and joy, the lab, which is my life's work, starting when I was a pre-teen, and still going, albeit with far greater sophisticated equipment now that I am of course, old enough to have an internet connection, a bank card and an income with which to purchase a large selection of reagents and lab glass, electrical equipment etc. such as vacuum pumps, rotavap, power supplies and the like, rather than having to rely on a pittance of pocket money and whatever I could make by selling scrap lead and copper, stuffed with cement, rocks, dirt, and whatever else heavy I could get my hands on, to scrap metal merchants, selling flowers picked from roadside cherry trees, and any other endeavours that my childhood self could make money on, even if it did mean spending most of the day after coming back from school climbing trees and grabbing the flowers to sell door to door, to buy OTC concentrated sulfuric acid, potassium permanganate, HCl, NaOH, ammonia and anything else by way of reagents, spare blowtorch gas canisters and fresh cartridges for my gas mask.
I'd never befoul my beloved lab gear with such irredeemable filth. I'd about as soon lavish praises upon a fucking pig officer as either take, or make this garbage, after what I've read about it.
shamantube
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Hexen experiments : Is it as bad or as good as ppl say ? Let us find out togetjer
I wish I could tell you were to find the good batches but not being completely understanding on the sourcing rules I must unfortunately bite my own tongue. One thing I have found is that you can basify this by mixing it with ammonia or baking soda just like cocaine and rock it up into solid milky white rocks like when you make high quality crack you want to use flavored vodka same rule applies here.. The best I have found to do it with is blueberry flavored absolut. If you do not do it right it wont work as good but still will be functional in your lab for study. I for sure think this is the closest RC to cocaine that is for sure both in its HCL & free base form. A few practice runs and you will be an expert at it. As someone who has made a lot of crack upwards of a QP at once I can say the reactions are VERY similar when making it. I am not a HUGE stimulant fan, I will maybe take a couple hits of rock then that is it if I am in the mood to do it. I am lucky to be more of a downer fella. I also would add in procaine when making my batches during the dissolving period in the flavored vodka before adding the ammonia.
Not only will it make it an easier smoke on your throat by numbing it and your entire face, It can add some legitimate weight to the batch that actually has benefits because the caine analogue causes the basification to " Rock up " A lot harder and more complete than only using hexen.
I hope this helps someone out there that is all I am looking to do is help. If someone wants to PM me more details on the sourcing rules, I would be i deubted to you.
-ShamClam
I wish I could tell you were to find the good batches but not being completely understanding on the sourcing rules I must unfortunately bite my own tongue. One thing I have found is that you can basify this by mixing it with ammonia or baking soda just like cocaine and rock it up into solid milky white rocks like when you make high quality crack you want to use flavored vodka same rule applies here.. The best I have found to do it with is blueberry flavored absolut. If you do not do it right it wont work as good but still will be functional in your lab for study. I for sure think this is the closest RC to cocaine that is for sure both in its HCL & free base form. A few practice runs and you will be an expert at it. As someone who has made a lot of crack upwards of a QP at once I can say the reactions are VERY similar when making it. I am not a HUGE stimulant fan, I will maybe take a couple hits of rock then that is it if I am in the mood to do it. I am lucky to be more of a downer fella. I also would add in procaine when making my batches during the dissolving period in the flavored vodka before adding the ammonia.
Not only will it make it an easier smoke on your throat by numbing it and your entire face, It can add some legitimate weight to the batch that actually has benefits because the caine analogue causes the basification to " Rock up " A lot harder and more complete than only using hexen.
I hope this helps someone out there that is all I am looking to do is help. If someone wants to PM me more details on the sourcing rules, I would be i deubted to you.
-ShamClam
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hydroazuanacaine
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this the hexen mega thread? it has the most post and authors outside a region specific thread. want to see something crazy ...
hexen straight out of baggie from reputable vendor.
after iso wash. about 80m dissolved in 10ml of 91%, run through a presoaked chemex paper that i folded to be two-ply and fit into a v60, dried under bonsai lamp. yield was about 50 percent.
after wheel filter. about 100mgs dissolved in about 10ml of bacteriostatic water, pushed through a .22um, 25mm, PES wheel filter that had pre-flushed bacteriostatic water to minimize retention and because i hear that cleans the filter (which makes no sense to me), dried under lamp. yield was about 20 percent. keep in mind, a PES wheel is designed to retain 90 something percent of the good stuff and at .22mm filters particles as small as bacteria. 25mm is a appropriate size for for 10ml.
to be clear, each filtered or washed sample only went through one of the processes. which a new piece of the vendors material, from the same batch and baggie. neither was cleaned one way and then the next
images can be click for full size.
PSA not only about hexen but vendors in general, no matter how big and reputable they are.
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sorry, filter is pes not nylon. both materials are leaders among allowing desired ingredient to pass though ...
The percentage of active ingredients after filtration using different membrane filters (n = 3). For all ingredients, the amount before filtration was normalised to 100%
i do not understand how ptfe and nylon exceed 100 percent. maybe they count liquid the filter was pre-flushed with that ends up in the final product.
and 25mm retains ...
Values will vary depending on manufacturer and filter material. * hold-up volume is measured after air-purge.
i usually use 13mm filters for 1ml shots, but i've used 25mm for 1ml and lose so little volume i can hardly notice. nothing to brag about; saying my technique is not flawed to the point of impacting results. i don't think i "air purge" though; when the shot is in the new needle i stop. not trying to rupture the filter or push anything nasty through for a nominal amount of drug.
hexen straight out of baggie from reputable vendor.
after iso wash. about 80m dissolved in 10ml of 91%, run through a presoaked chemex paper that i folded to be two-ply and fit into a v60, dried under bonsai lamp. yield was about 50 percent.
after wheel filter. about 100mgs dissolved in about 10ml of bacteriostatic water, pushed through a .22um, 25mm, PES wheel filter that had pre-flushed bacteriostatic water to minimize retention and because i hear that cleans the filter (which makes no sense to me), dried under lamp. yield was about 20 percent. keep in mind, a PES wheel is designed to retain 90 something percent of the good stuff and at .22mm filters particles as small as bacteria. 25mm is a appropriate size for for 10ml.
to be clear, each filtered or washed sample only went through one of the processes. which a new piece of the vendors material, from the same batch and baggie. neither was cleaned one way and then the next
images can be click for full size.
PSA not only about hexen but vendors in general, no matter how big and reputable they are.
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sorry, filter is pes not nylon. both materials are leaders among allowing desired ingredient to pass though ...
The percentage of active ingredients after filtration using different membrane filters (n = 3). For all ingredients, the amount before filtration was normalised to 100%
i do not understand how ptfe and nylon exceed 100 percent. maybe they count liquid the filter was pre-flushed with that ends up in the final product.
and 25mm retains ...
Values will vary depending on manufacturer and filter material. * hold-up volume is measured after air-purge.
i usually use 13mm filters for 1ml shots, but i've used 25mm for 1ml and lose so little volume i can hardly notice. nothing to brag about; saying my technique is not flawed to the point of impacting results. i don't think i "air purge" though; when the shot is in the new needle i stop. not trying to rupture the filter or push anything nasty through for a nominal amount of drug.
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Working_Class
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Negrogesic told me to try vaping it, so I decided to bump anout 20 mg insulated with a few mg of etizolam to enjoy some Oblivion and test the waters again before taking the vaping plunge on a seperat occasion. But after reading the purification method above, I may just take my meager stash and try running it through a few steps to get it as nice and clean as possible before giving that a go.
20 mg insufflated is nice, easy to handle, not very caustic compared go 3-FPM, and I recently had an experience with 3-FPM that caused me to flush the rest of my stash. It was very forgiving at first but as days went on systemic inflammation got pretty insane. Bp went up and up, chest pain started and the bad decisions were coming out in a bad way. So down the drain she went.
This stuff isn't my favorite by any means so the compulsion to redose is zero. Purification pre vaporizing might be quite a nice ride though.
Are you planning on slamming that, hydroazuanacaine? Because that is an impressive step by step. Hats off to you.
20 mg insufflated is nice, easy to handle, not very caustic compared go 3-FPM, and I recently had an experience with 3-FPM that caused me to flush the rest of my stash. It was very forgiving at first but as days went on systemic inflammation got pretty insane. Bp went up and up, chest pain started and the bad decisions were coming out in a bad way. So down the drain she went.
This stuff isn't my favorite by any means so the compulsion to redose is zero. Purification pre vaporizing might be quite a nice ride though.
Are you planning on slamming that, hydroazuanacaine? Because that is an impressive step by step. Hats off to you.
hydroazuanacaine
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hexen is a a flush drug. if you're going to use it, clean it first. either way, it's not healthy. it's some weird form of crack. it instantly makes you paranoid.
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Beside the fact that you state it instantly makes you paranoid, which isn't at all how I remember it, what was your experience like? Did you use it IV?this the hexen mega thread? it has the most post and authors outside a region specific thread. want to see something crazy ...
hexen straight out of baggie from reputable vendor.
after iso wash. about 80m dissolved in 10ml of 91%, run through a presoaked chemex paper that i folded to be two-ply and fit into a v60, dried under bonsai lamp. yield was about 50 percent.
after wheel filter. about 100mgs dissolved in about 10ml of bacteriostatic water, pushed through a .22um, 25mm, PES wheel filter that had pre-flushed bacteriostatic water to minimize retention and because i hear that cleans the filter (which makes no sense to me), dried under lamp. yield was about 20 percent. keep in mind, a PES wheel is designed to retain 90 something percent of the good stuff and at .22mm filters particles as small as bacteria. 25mm is a appropriate size for for 10ml.
to be clear, each filtered or washed sample only went through one of the processes. which a new piece of the vendors material, from the same batch and baggie. neither was cleaned one way and then the next
images can be click for full size.
PSA not only about hexen but vendors in general, no matter how big and reputable they are.
edit:
sorry, filter is pes not nylon. both materials are leaders among allowing desired ingredient to pass though ...
The percentage of active ingredients after filtration using different membrane filters (n = 3). For all ingredients, the amount before filtration was normalised to 100%
i do not understand how ptfe and nylon exceed 100 percent. maybe they count liquid the filter was pre-flushed with that ends up in the final product.
and 25mm retains ...
Values will vary depending on manufacturer and filter material. * hold-up volume is measured after air-purge.
i usually use 13mm filters for 1ml shots, but i've used 25mm for 1ml and lose so little volume i can hardly notice. nothing to brag about; saying my technique is not flawed to the point of impacting results. i don't think i "air purge" though; when the shot is in the new needle i stop. not trying to rupture the filter or push anything nasty through for a nominal amount of drug.
Wiserthanearlier
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My experiences were aligned to what i read. Seems great initially, but quickly after couple of days produces paranoia and cold extremities without much positive effects occuring. I experi,ented with couple of grams over seversl months.
You do get very good cathinone results initally but they also didnt reset with moderate breaks.
Seems like a great stim, but only good first few goes. This was all insuffulation
You do get very good cathinone results initally but they also didnt reset with moderate breaks.
Seems like a great stim, but only good first few goes. This was all insuffulation
hydroazuanacaine
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it was like crack with legs but the rush wasn't nearly as good. i mostly smoked it out of an oil burner or whatever you call those bulb meth pipes. don't iv it. even after cleaning it with the method i posted above it still feels pretty harsh like coke. i remember if the smoke got it your eyes if you waited too long for for the pipe to fill before inhaling, it would irritate them. only the first couple hits felt really good, like crack. then it was chasing that initial feeling. i only went through a gram of it, which after my above method was 200mg. which again, was almost but not quite 5x as potent as the uncleaned stuff. so some of whatever came out during the cleaning produced some sort of high, but not the good part of the high.
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hydroazuanacaine
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it was really fluffy after the wheel filter and scrape so it was hard to tell. probably 5mg per hit. that stuff in the pic is 20mg made from 100mg, and i used that 20mg all day. i had to wash more of it the next day. before i did the wheel filter, i could probably put 35mg in at once but the smoke would have me choking it was so harsh. after cleaning with the filter it wasn't so bad, but the high still didn't stay good. it only felt good for the first few hits. if you waited a day, the first hit of the day would feel decent. but then just like crack it would quickly stop feeling good again.
you didn't have to redose very often, but i would because there was a rush to it.
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the dose is hard to remember because i was using lots of benzos with it.
you didn't have to redose very often, but i would because there was a rush to it.
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the dose is hard to remember because i was using lots of benzos with it.
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Tryptamite
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I'm afraid he is dead. And generally right about everything drugs related I don agree with him on this matter. Sorry limp