Cream Gravy?
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^The whole Pickard/Skinner bust/lab situation was so fucked in so many ways. LSD is still struggling to escape its MK-ULTRA past
There's a major difference between having consensual sex with a partner(s) while all people are intoxicated but can give consent, and sexually assaulting, raping, and/or drugging someone or getting them so high on LSD or MDMA/MDA or other drugs that they cannot consent and the person gives the drugs to someone to force or coerce them into having sex, or rape them.Defining rape and consent in these situations would be the first hurdle to solving these issues.
But sex and drugs go hand in hand. A conservative minded individual might peg the downfall of society in the mid to late 60s because civil rights, sexual liberty, and drug experimentation became common; someone like myself might say that was the start of the age of Aquarius and that it was about damn time people started taking drugs and having orgies and giving rights to all human beings.
Unfortunately, sex and drugs aren't all flowers and roses right? What can you do about that? Everyone is a perv, deep down inside, somewhere. I get horny when I see women in canvass sneakers. Some people actually like feet which I find weird. Some people like people of the same sex and some people like fat people and some people are keen on youth or thinness.
My point is, it was inevitable that sex and drug experimentation were going to end up tethered to one another, they are of the same kind of nature: exploratory.
Don't get me wrong, I agree. Honestly I wonder why alcohol is legal because every rape I've heard about or bore witness to the lead up to IRL involved heavy amounts of liquor. One of my good friends thought she had been slipped MDMA when something was done to her... upon talking it over with her (because she came to me asking what she might have been drugged with) I found out she had been consuming everclear. It was then easy to deduce she hadn't been drugged at all, or rather, she had been, with everclear.There's a major difference between having consensual sex with a partner(s) while all people are intoxicated but can give consent, and sexually assaulting, raping, and/or drugging someone or getting them so high on LSD or MDMA/MDA or other drugs that they cannot consent and the person gives the drugs to someone to force or coerce them into having sex, or rape them.
There was one male and one female therapist in the scenario described in the Quartz article that led to the alleged sexual assault.She reminded me that they would often have both a male and female therapist/guide/facilitator to help give the participants a sense of comfort especially if there is past trauma with one gender or the other.
That said I understand how it may be more difficult to open up to two individuals instead of one, but with MDMA hopefully that doesn’t matter so much.
Either way I think it’s a point worth mentioning, maybe MAPS should consider a two therapist approach with both genders present to keep a sense of safety while also accountability.
Also I’d say the participant has past trauma with one gender, having the other gender there helps again make them feel safe and they may be able to finally address the issues.