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Le Junk said:
Quick question without having to search. Where did the “magic” sample come from? And how was it verified to be an actual “magic” sample?
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Magic sample came from a burning man connect. She only has fire product and EVERYONE AGREES its the tits NMR matches mdma... i wont touch any MDMA except hers now ;) well except that dirty sample we cleaned up
 
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Le Junk said:
Quick question without having to search. Where did the “magic” sample come from? And how was it verified to be an actual “magic” sample?
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Where did the “magic” sample come from

Burning man connections. Non darknet.

And how was it verified to be an actual “magic” sample

Multiple OG people 30-40YO buy her product and say it's the tits. Like its the old school mdma.. nmr seems to match magic sample vs meh samples.
 
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@indigoaura @G_Chem @majk13 @ThreePointCircle and a few others have been asking for a bitcoin and monero donation address. We have been making progress with these NMR tests etc. and these tests/solvents aren't necessarily free. We hope to have the containment report sometime soon when my friend has some free time. But his life takes precedence over this project.

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Don't know if this is exactly the place for this, but I guess it is semi-relevant.

I've done "MDMA" twice before yesterday. First time was in 2012-ish and it was X. Pretty sure it was bunk. None of us that did felt anything more than a mild buzz. Second time was about 2 years ago. Feel comfortable saying that it was either full on Meth, or heavily cut with Meth. I've since done Meth, and the feeling was remarkably similar.

I finally put my big boy pants on and got some from the source a couple weeks back. Unfortunately, i didn't have a scale on me. But I had weighed out about 110mg's the day before, so I tried my best to replicate what that looked like and eyeballed. My guess is I did no less than 80mg and no more than 150mg. But who really knows? Anyway, I put it in some sprite and for some god damn reason, I didn't crush the crystals up before dropping in the sprite. So, they just stayed whole. Obviously. So I had to do it the hardway and swallow those things whole. I read that they are tasteless. These were not. They tasted bad. I started to feel about 30 minutes later, and it wasn't really big on the feeling. I'm not huge on feeling "fucked up", as in, stoned. And I felt kind of stoned. I didn't want to stand up or sit up, I was just slouched on the couch, thinking that if this gets any stronger, it really ain't gonna be my cup. And then, at the snap of a finger, all that went away. It was fucking crazy. I head felt lighter (in a good way), I felt fresher, I felt clean, I just felt good as hell. A good way to describe it would be "airy". I was definitely speedy, but not a meth speedy. I didn't have waves of meth electricity rushing through my body like the other "molly" I did a couple years back and the meth I've done a couple times since then. I just felt enhanced. Like how I'd imagine you'd feel in Heaven. But I was definitely high. It didn't feel like a nootropic. I would not have wanted to be in church, or talk to a cop. I was way under the influence. And I felt like that for about 6-ish hours (really, more like 5). I redosed probably (remember, no scale) 40-70mg's 2 hours in and then (wastefully) probably around 80mg's about 6 hours in. That was a real waste, because i was already coming down super hard, and I fell asleep about an hour after that 2nd redose. Shame.

This morning i feel pretty good. I felt like I did drugs yesterday, but i don't feel depressed and i don't have a headache. I feel solid. I've read lots of trip reports on molly, but it's insane how much they really vary. Does it sound like I got some quality product? If this isn't the right thread for this post, feel free to move or remove it, mods.

Cheers, gang.
 
Did some very shitty MDMA (pill) some time ago.

Very heavy body feel, kinda sedating, not euphoric in any way, mongy and you'd just like to close your eyes, not emotional or empathogenic at all, fucking hated it.
I have found that there are 'grades' in shittyness, I've had crystal that came up very hard and fast and went like nowhere, and pills like above.
 
PsychedelicSummer said:
Sounds like the real deal! Did you have extreme mydriasis, tactile & music enhancement?
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Didn't check my eyes, so I don't know about that. But, yeah, stuff felt nice. Puling on the skin on my arm and face felt cool as hell and i sadly didn't listen to any music on the peak. At least not good music. We we're just hanging out, talking our asses off. Great time, though.

That's great to hear that I got some good stuff. It was great, definitely among my favorite drugs i've ever done. I'd say it felt like Meth if Meth felt clean and pure and not like, well, meth. Euphoria through the roof.
 
More MehDMA last night in Central America. Was assured it had been personally tested and magic. In fact, the source seemed to be enjoying himself, though no-one else that took it was loved up and as they should be, despite most of them saying they felt good. Once again, I am reminded that I can trust no-one regarding MDMA unless they are aware of the differences between MehDMA and MagicDMA, eg. what's actually good product.

I'm really starting to think people just don't fucking know? I don't see how it's possible, but, eh, people live in delusion and lies.

Ugh. So fucking frustrating.

EDIT: My buddy just got home, who'd just done acid, we talked about how the night went, and he said it was obvious to him that something with the MDMA was off considering how most people were doing more and more all night and no-one was loved up and ecstatic. He's never heard of MehDMA before. Ah, and I had done a quarter tab of acid about 3-4 hours before dosing the MDMA, and felt 100x better on just the acid than after the MDMA hit, eg. more loving, more energetic, more subtle energy attuned, actually wanting to dance, talk, etc.
 
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Ah, and I had done a quarter tab of acid about 3-4 hours before dosing the MDMA, and felt 100x better on just the acid than after the MDMA hit, eg. more loving, more energetic, more subtle energy attuned, actually wanting to dance, talk, etc.
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That has happened to me. You are feeling great on LSD or 2CB or whatever, and then the mehDMA comes in and just ruins it.
 
majk13 said:
Which of these addresses is for normal bitcoin?
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Sry haven't used bitcoin since the whole segwit debate so im not familiar with BUTTCOIN XD. As we say SHUM. Should have used monero
 
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@vash445 Crypto Currency is new to me. I usually have other people assist with DW stuff. As soon as I figure out how, I will be making a donation. Reading about monero now.
 
indigoaura said:
@vash445 Crypto Currency is new to me. I usually have other people assist with DW stuff. As soon as I figure out how, I will be making a donation. Reading about monero now.
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No worries if you have any questions feel free to ask. Monero is the most private. And you usually have to buy Bitcoin to get monero. Thou there are other ways
 
vash445 said:
The file ending ...207.pdf is confirmed magic, and the file ending ...579.pdf is confirmed meh.


On page 37 onwards there are reference 1H NMR plots.

The magic sample (...207.pdf) seems to match the reference MDMA HCL in D2O (page 45)
The meh sample ( ...579.pdf) appears be closest to MMDA base in CDCl3 (page 44). Not a super close match but I think its the best on my initial look
The other meh sample (...312.png) perhaps is also closest to MMDA but even less good a fit

So the big differences in the <7ppm range are: magic - peak around 4.87 (missing integration value?) that is not present in the meh sample. meh - big peak around 3.70 that is missing from the magic sample.
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Can you clarify what NMR solvents were used? It appears that the "magic" sample was run in MeOH-d4, but the solvent used for the "meh" sample isn't clear due to overlaps. Is it DMSO-d6?

The peak at 4.87 in 207.pdf is water, showing up where it characteristically does in MeOH-d4. I have an idea that the peak at 3.70 in 579.pdf is also just water (in combination with the exchangeable protons on the nitrogen) but that would be clearer if I knew the solvent it was run in. My apologies if this was posted earlier in the thread.

In any case they appear to be the same compound, with 207.pdf looking a little more pure.

A head-to-head comparison would be much easier if they were thoroughly dried and run in the same NMR solvent.

Also, if whoever you got this from has the FID files, those could be helpful, or the full data .zip files in Bruker or Varian format.
 
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Le Junk said:
Let me first give you a little background. I'm 51 years old and started doing ecstasy the last year it was legal in 1985. Needless to say the legal ecstasy from the so called "Dallas Group" was nothing short of spectacular. In 1988 I made a connection with someone from the San Francisco area who was in the production field of making MDMA. I have maintained that friendship and connection ever since with only small periods of downtime. The MDMA I get from him is an extremely fine bleach white crystalline powder that is fluffy and lays just like snow. The high from this MDMA takes about 10-15 minutes to take effect and the high is always the same. An extremely smooth come up followed by excessive love and empathy. You will literally melt into the person you're with and sex is out of this world. Touch and feel is heavenly. All you want to do is touch and feel on the person youre with and tell them how beautiful they are and how much you love them etc. There are massive eye wiggles and conversation flows like new born buddas. The come down is just as smooth as the come up. It drops you off just like a feather and sleep comes like a baby. The next day is nothing short of spectacular. You wake up feeling anti-depressed and chatty. You'll want to talk on the phone, visit friends or just drive around and enjoy the day with the top down. It's all I've ever known as an MDMA experience.

Now that brings me to modern day MDMA. There was a period back in the early 2000's when my connection was down and I scored pills from a local guy. They were great and with some very small exceptions, nearly as good as my crystalline powder. But once again I've been forced to score something locally and the stuff is just plain crap. And I mean crap. I've done both the orange Tesla's and the red Supremes. Absolutely awful, but from reading the trip reports on Pillreports, you would have thought they were the best ever. They're actually anything but. I had both of these pills tested on ecstasydata and both came back as pure MDMA.

Both of them took about 30-40 minutes to kick in and when they did, there was a slight feeling of euphoria and empathy that quickly faded and from there on out it was just a fucked up buzz. There were eye wiggles, but I wasn't feeling good when they were happening. I became extremely tired and kind of gacked out. The high from these pills seemed to last forever, maybe just because they sucked so much. I felt like a crackhead on the comedown and the next day felt like a bad MDA hangover. There was no next day afterglow at all. Just a different kind of fucked up than the night before. And that lasted the entire next day. There is a HUGE giveaway that youre doing todays crappy MDMA. Your pupils will not dialate all the way to the very edge like old school ecstasy. With old school ecstasy your pupils consume literally all of the color in your eye with only a microscopic sliver of color left around the outer edge. With modern day ecstasy your pupils will only dialate to slightly beyond normal if at all. Thats a big giveaway youre doing new school MDMA junk.

Before you jump to the assumption that this Le Junk guy is just old, hes done way to much ecstasy over the course of his lifetime and this is just a matter of tolerance, please re-read my post stating that I still have access to old school MDMA that Ive had since the 1980s. So in one hand I have modern day lab tested MDMA crap and in the other hand, old school MDMA heaven. So tolerance is out the window. Moving forward...

My question is this. Is this the best there is out there today? And since both pills tested on ecstasydata as pure MDMA, what is wrong with MDMA production nowdays? Does anyone else feel what I'm talking about here? My setting is pretty much always the same so that's not it. I always hear people talk about the setting as if that's an issue. With the crystalline powder, it doesn't matter where I am, it's always great. But with these Supremes and Teslas, it's just a sub-par, little euphoria, no real love or empathy, fucked up kinda buzz. Let me put it this way, if this was all that was available to me, I'd quit taking MDMA altogether. Terrible!
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I'm so jealous of your connection.... Sounds awesome. Deffo gonna be looking for some white fluffy MD. I've never come across any like that, but completely agree about the pills.
 
I dont suppose anyone saved my old photos I put up back when I was active in this thread? Host has removed/expired. I also lost all my photos recently after my phone broke :/ - not just crystal photos but everything I've ever taken a photo of via that phone - now have a better camera etc but could do with the photos back for keep sake.
 
S.J.B. said:
Can you clarify what NMR solvents were used? It appears that the "magic" sample was run in MeOH-d3, but the solvent used for the "meh" sample isn't clear due to overlaps. Is it DMSO-d6?

The peak at 4.87 in 207.pdf is water, showing up where it characteristically does in MeOH-d3. I have an idea that the peak at 3.70 in 579.pdf is also just water (in combination with the exchangeable protons on the nitrogen) but that would be clearer if I knew the solvent it was run in. My apologies if this was posted earlier in the thread.

In any case they appear to be the same compound, with 207.pdf looking a little more pure.

A head-to-head comparison would be much easier if they were thoroughly dried and run in the same NMR solvent.

Also, if whoever you got this from has the .fid files, those could be helpful, or the full data .zip files in Bruker or Varian format.
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Ive asked.. until then maybe @ThreePointCircle or @vecktor can help in the mean time with that question
 
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