☮ Social ☮ PD Social Distancing Talk Thread: Swirly Congregation That's 100% Pandemic-Proof

[xammy]

I fucking hate this climate change shit discourse that media is spamming now. Our government is also making up all kind of taxes to gasoline, flying tickets, meat, forcing vegan food and whatnot. Even if our whole country committed suicide it wouldn't make a difference for global scale of things. Theyre saying we should be an example etc but China doesn't give a fuck about our examples. These people are creating hysteria and some not so smart people are actually suffering from "climate anxiety" I think it's about to be on ICD list, lol. These goverment faggots are talking about how bad is it now to warm your house with wood when they sold our electricity infra to foreign investors and we pay astronomical bills for it and they keep rising the bills every year. They can suck my dick.

And honestly, I don't even care. I'm that selfish. Some men just want to see the world burn.

 

[Deleted member 521610]

So our best univerisity is going to give 40 people LSD microdosing in their study the only thing i have is that their so called microdose 10-20 ug is not a microdose and will have those guys who get into the trial feeling trippy for a few hours lol.

Stuff

www.newshub.co.nz

 

[xammy]

My dream is to visit New Zealand one day. How is life there TripSitter?

Cheapest tickets seems to cost around 800 euros with 1 or 2 stopovers and it would take 35 hours to get there. :D there are no direct flights available

 

[Cheshire_Kat]

Not nearly as many as you lost by using the phrase "woke points." Better get to work, you're gonna have to take out at least a couple boards worth to get back to even.

LOL, no problemo, bruh...

Just remember I didn't emulate the WWII Nazis by proposing that we execute our political or social opponents, you literally did.

 

[Deleted member 521610]

My dream is to visit New Zealand one day. How is life there TripSitter?

Cheapest tickets seems to cost around 800 euros with 1 or 2 stopovers and it would take 35 hours to get there. :D there are no direct flights available

Its very chill and plenty of nature to trip balls in . The one downside is that NZ has always been mega expensive for everything food gas etc houseprices are beyond fucked now.

 

[Vastness]

I fucking hate this climate change shit discourse that media is spamming now. Our government is also making up all kind of taxes to gasoline, flying tickets, meat, forcing vegan food and whatnot. Even if our whole country committed suicide it wouldn't make a difference for global scale of things. Theyre saying we should be an example etc but China doesn't give a fuck about our examples. These people are creating hysteria and some not so smart people are actually suffering from "climate anxiety" I think it's about to be on ICD list, lol. These goverment faggots are talking about how bad is it now to warm your house with wood when they sold our electricity infra to foreign investors and we pay astronomical bills for it and they keep rising the bills every year. They can suck my dick.

And honestly, I don't even care. I'm that selfish. Some men just want to see the world burn.

Without commenting on the other stuff since there's already an "Antropogenic Climate Change" thread which I personally just completely avoid - man, I just can't understand people who think it's funny to mock Greta Thunberg. You gotta respect the bravery of someone her age to stand up so strongly for such an important cause - or even if you don't think it's an important cause yourself, a cause that she believes in, and to have been able to make such an impact as to become an internationally recognised icon for said cause. So many people at that age can't even think about their own future while they grapple with the immense weight of just being alive - I know I didn't, and couldn't. To be thinking about the world our children will inherit takes a foresight and strength of character which is very rare even in adults, but for sure is always admirable no matter what cause such people choose to get behind.

 

[Bagseed]

to be honest, this whole "our country is so small why should we bother to change shit" attitude is a cheap cop out to keep on living a lazy polluting ecology wrecking lifestyle.

reality is that if we don't strive to become a somewhat ecologically sustainable society as a whole, humanity is certainly doomed.

 

[Pfafffed]

Its very chill and plenty of nature to trip balls in . The one downside is that NZ has always been mega expensive for everything food gas etc houseprices are beyond fucked now.

House prices were bad before, then National opened the floodgates for intl. real estate speculation for a decade. Now it's bonkers. The damage is done, though, unfortunately—you can't put the cat back in the bag. :-/

 

[Cream Gravy?]

Without commenting on the other stuff since there's already an "Antropogenic Climate Change" thread which I personally just completely avoid - man, I just can't understand people who think it's funny to mock Greta Thunberg. You gotta respect the bravery of someone her age to stand up so strongly for such an important cause - or even if you don't think it's an important cause yourself, a cause that she believes in, and to have been able to make such an impact as to become an internationally recognised icon for said cause. So many people at that age can't even think about their own future while they grapple with the immense weight of just being alive - I know I didn't, and couldn't. To be thinking about the world our children will inherit takes a foresight and strength of character which is very rare even in adults, but for sure is always admirable no matter what cause such people choose to get behind.

Is it ephebophilia to say Greta is kinda cute?

 

[perpetualdawn]

I fucking hate this climate change shit discourse that media is spamming now. Our government is also making up all kind of taxes to gasoline, flying tickets, meat, forcing vegan food and whatnot. Even if our whole country committed suicide it wouldn't make a difference for global scale of things. Theyre saying we should be an example etc but China doesn't give a fuck about our examples. These people are creating hysteria and some not so smart people are actually suffering from "climate anxiety" I think it's about to be on ICD list, lol. These goverment faggots are talking about how bad is it now to warm your house with wood when they sold our electricity infra to foreign investors and we pay astronomical bills for it and they keep rising the bills every year. They can suck my dick.

And honestly, I don't even care. I'm that selfish. Some men just want to see the world burn.

You sound like a fucking asshole @xammy I'm glad we're not friends

 

[psy997]

LOL, no problemo, bruh...

Just remember I didn't emulate the WWII Nazis by proposing that we execute our political or social opponents, you literally did.

Bit rude for the social thread considering the context the joke was made in.

Without commenting on the other stuff since there's already an "Antropogenic Climate Change" thread which I personally just completely avoid - man, I just can't understand people who think it's funny to mock Greta Thunberg. You gotta respect the bravery of someone her age to stand up so strongly for such an important cause - or even if you don't think it's an important cause yourself, a cause that she believes in, and to have been able to make such an impact as to become an internationally recognised icon for said cause. So many people at that age can't even think about their own future while they grapple with the immense weight of just being alive - I know I didn't, and couldn't. To be thinking about the world our children will inherit takes a foresight and strength of character which is very rare even in adults, but for sure is always admirable no matter what cause such people choose to get behind.

I, personally, greatly dislike Greta Thunberg. She's done almost nothing for the climate change movement except be used by forces greater than herself to amplify fear and outrage. Why, out of everyone making huge strides in climate related technologies and communications, is she chosen to become the world's poster child for climate change action? If you don't see it as fishy, well, I believe that's a bit naive.

to be honest, this whole "our country is so small why should we bother to change shit" attitude is a cheap cop out to keep on living a lazy polluting ecology wrecking lifestyle.

reality is that if we don't strive to become a somewhat ecologically sustainable society as a whole, humanity is certainly doomed.

You sound like a fucking asshole @xammy I'm glad we're not friends

IMO the both of you are missing the incredibly complex and tragic context for said beliefs and lines of thought. There is such good reason for individuals to feel that way, just as there was such good reason for large numbers of people to anger-vote Trump into office, and blaming the individuals with said specific reactions is, again IMO, useless and potentially harmful considering the likely amplification of in-working class-fighting said blame generates. It's a very valid thought for xammy to have, and the lack of understanding why someone would feel that way is, in itself, further inflammatory.

 

[Vastness]

I, personally, greatly dislike Greta Thunberg. She's done almost nothing for the climate change movement except be used by forces greater than herself to amplify fear and outrage. Why, out of everyone making huge strides in climate related technologies and communications, is she chosen to become the world's poster child for climate change action? If you don't see it as fishy, well, I believe that's a bit naive.

Raising awareness has value in itself, and it can be argued that to increase fear and outrage over a situation that, arguably, does warrant it, has it's own value as well. I don't personally think it makes sense to dislike Greta herself, she's essentially a child, and I have no problem believing she is as earnest in her belief as she appears. If she is being used by more sinister movers behind the scenes, then the blame lies not on her but on those who are using her. Although besides the aforementioned "increasing fear and outrage" about a fairly important issue - I'm yet to hear any specifics about what, exactly, she is being used for.

It seems at least as likely to me that the message just sounds more powerful coming from someone so young. Not everything is a conspiracy. It's all very well working on other solutions, and that's great, but a lot of people still just don't see climate change as a big problem - and the more people who DO see it as a problem, the greater the chance someone or some group of people will figure out a way out of this mess.

That's how I see it anyway. Raising awareness has it's own value and her contribution in this sense should not be denied.

 

[perpetualdawn]

IMO the both of you are missing the incredibly complex and tragic context for said beliefs and lines of thought. There is such good reason for individuals to feel that way, just as there was such good reason for large numbers of people to anger-vote Trump into office, and blaming the individuals with said specific reactions is, again IMO, useless and potentially harmful considering the likely amplification of in-working class-fighting said blame generates. It's a very valid thought for xammy to have, and the lack of understanding why someone would feel that way is, in itself, further inflammatory.

Sure, I can agree if look at it from one angle, but OTOH I'm also sick of pretending it's that it's ok to go around trumpeting destructive attitudes. OK, ultimately it's valid for xammy (or anyone) to be a selfish asshole, he can be who he wants, but that doesn't mean I have to like them. Why should I accept and care about someone who is happy to see the world burn? Fuck em. Not my friend.

If someone was happy to watch your house burn to the ground, would you want to be their friend?

 

[psy997]

(half drunk, very tired reply)

But that's exactly the point, her earnestly believing in the cause means nothing if she is being manipulated behind her back. It's not difficult nor heroic to be outraged about an existence threatening scenario such as climate change.

Why is her contribution greater than any other 'worried about climate change' individual's contribution simply because she was picked up as a high valience high arousal spokesperson?

That's the point that Greta non-enthusiasts are making, and why they feel fine making fun of her. There's nothing special about her, she's a child who legally is not able to make consensual decisions for herself, and on many theoretical grounds is incapable of making her own opinions and thoughts. Making fun of her is making fun of something bigger than herself, the ruse that it is, and the fact that entire demographics would believe a child over informed adults.

Regarding what she may be used for, there is a massive Green industry and billions to be made off carbon taxes et al.

Sure, I can agree if look at it from one angle, but OTOH I'm also sick of pretending it's that it's ok to go around trumpeting destructive attitudes. OK, ultimately it's valid for xammy (or anyone) to be a selfish asshole, he can be who he wants, but that doesn't mean I have to like them. Why should I accept and care about someone who is happy to see the world burn? Fuck em. Not my friend.

If someone was happy to watch your house burn to the ground, would you want to be their friend?

Again, you're not understanding the larger contexts that lead to self-destructive behaviors that are the greater issue than the understandable and unavoidable responses to said contexts.

 

[perpetualdawn]

Again, you're not understanding the larger contexts that lead to self-destructive behaviors that are the greater issue than the understandable and unavoidable responses to said contexts.

No, I do absolutely understand that. I just don't agree. We're constantly fed the line that we need to cuddle up to these people and say "oh that's fine that you hold those views, we're all entitled to our perspective, and you're injured by the cruelties of society. Now go ahead and burn my house down, I'll hold your hand while you do that".

This soft fucking stance with destructive people is letting this bullshit grow and grow and grow..

 

[Cream Gravy?]

I think it’s a valid opinion to want the end of the human race and to not care. There are many reasons one could and arguably should feel as such.

Just wanted to say that. I’m still on the fence about whether or not humans should disappear entirely. On one hand there’s something beautiful about humanity and on the other, it’s the ugliest thing that has ever existed. We are a walking paradox.

Besides, the Earth and the universe will move on without us. There’s nothing any of us could ever do that would truly impact the greater plan that the universe/God/Force has for the Earth. If we ruin it, and we all die, it was meant to be. I don’t believe in fate but I do believe there are forces at work which are well beyond our comprehension.

 

[perpetualdawn]

What else would we do? Might as well exist and do the best job we can of it.

Intellectually you can twist yourself into nihilistic knots, but when it comes right down to it, if you didn't think we should exist, you wouldn't be here right now.

 

[psy997]

No, I do absolutely understand that. I just don't agree. We're constantly fed the line that we need to cuddle up to these people and say "oh that's fine that you hold those views, we're all entitled to our perspective, and you're injured by the cruelties of society. Now go ahead and burn my house down, I'll hold your hand while you do that".

This soft fucking stance with destructive people is letting this bullshit grow and grow and grow..

And what harm do you see xammy being able to commit? Again, you're misdirecting your anger.

EDIT: My reply has a lack of nuance, but at the same time, which people in charge do you see as holding the view of "fuck em, let it burn?" in the way that xammy is? None, I would argue.

 

[somnilicious]

What's up everybody? Why all the animosity? I don't understand all the hate for a child that simply has a valid concern about the future of the planet and our current path of environmental destruction. I am not a strong proponent of green movements but I also don't think it is wise to turn a blind eye to or completely ignore the destruction of our environment by unregulated capitalistic industries simply because you don't like the personality of a young naive social warrior or the perceived agenda of some of the environmental groups .

I personally didn't even know who Greta was or anything she had to say on the issue of environmental protection until I heard about it here on bluelight and I am not a strong supporter or even aware of how broad reaching her voice and message is received(once again, never heard her before) but I do agree that the destruction of our planet is a valid concern. I admire the young girls awareness and resolve to initiate change. It is my personal belief that both sides of the issue become irrationally and personally inflamed over these issues. The current propensity of supporters on the right and left to look at everything as so black and white and direct such cut and dry hate for everything related to the issues of the other side, regardless, is very alarming. Please do not direct any attacks, flaming or vitriolic rants at me because of this post. I admit I am a little uninformed about the girl and her overall stance on the issue so I am not directly supporting her or any agendas.

I brewed up a strong batch of San Pedro tea made from about 4ft of cacti today. I have yet to drink any because I am trying to make it easier to consume by simmering down the volume but I am excited to partake. I started the day by trying to eat the cactus raw but unfortunately it became nauseating and unpalatable after roughly 4-5 inches of cactus was consumed. It was a lot more bitter and difficult to eat compared to last time I ate the flesh while tripping on LSD. It was the same cactus as the one I ate last time but the taste was a lot stronger. I don't know if different parts of a large growth could possibly contain vastly different alkaloid contents or potency but it was noticeably more bitter this go around. The resulting brew smells incredibly similar to poppy tea, which I have not consumed in over 15yrs. It is a dark green color and I was careful not to overheat and thus destroy any mescaline. I will let everybody know how it turns out either tonight or tomorrow. I am thinking I will take the plunge this evening, although I do enjoy tripping during the day more than tripping at night.

Happy Thanksgiving to everybody. I hope everybody is having a good turkey day and that my fellow psychedelic warriors are also taking the extra time off from work to commune and connect with the aforementioned planet and nature. I am going to pay my respects to the environment by consuming this wonderful sacrament. Enjoy and have a beautiful technicolor, swirly, shape shifting, loving, trance inducing, adventure of a holiday.

 

[perpetualdawn]

And by that token, what harm do you see me being able to commit by not wanting to be his friend? (@psy997 )

What weirds me out is that on the internet it has become acceptable for someone like xammy to call people faggots and want to burn the place down, yet it's not ok for someone like me to call them out on it.