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I have mixed concerta with LSD and that level of stimulation was painful and dangerous heart rate near 200 beats per minute now with DOC that would be a heart attack in the making.
 
I've mixed random stimulants before.. I think a heart can take two stressors. Is there a specific reason why DOC and speed wouldn't mix?

Also, why should there be complaints concerning LSD + methylphenidate? Sets have been mixed on nothing but acid and speed for wombat sake. Dose, set and setting is a variable of course, but come on..
 
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With that valuable broccoli fact noted, there should be a reasonable, survivable DOC + Hitler powder dosing scheme then, right?

Goes against gut feeling, doesn't it?

Or not? Microdose DOC, free/gratuis buffet on the speed? We'll call it therapy at the end.

I take no responsibilities though.

K
 
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Chris Timothy said:
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Dissociatives as overprotective mothers with misguided love.. hmm.. kinda hits home a bit too perfectly. Maybe that's why they're generally iffy, yet nevertheless match up with certain personalities?
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I'm glad to hear that resonated with you! Always a chance it was just dissociative induced nonsensical ramblings itself. Might well explain the match up with certain personalities, just speaking for myself, my own mother was probably a little overprotective although of course she did her best, as everyone does, really, and it probably contributed to my being an anxious and fearful child and, to a lesser extent, adult. Probably doesn't need to be a mother thing also, dissociatives just as easily can substitute for a temporary but transient life lesson about the irrationality of the kind of Fear Of Life that manifests as a result of childhood trauma.

Going back to the substance-anthropomorphisation again, I think dissociatives just aren't so great at actually teaching us how to do this, they just do it for us in the moment, and it's very hard to bring anything back - although every now and then someone will manage it of course. But I think the more one comes to rely on dissociatives for the muting of the Fear Of Life that is at the core of all of our psychological maladies, the harder it becomes to mute it (or, perhaps, just accept it) without them. This isn't a property unique to dissociatives of course, the same could be said for any number of "self soothing" substances, from alcohol to opiates, but unlike, for example, heroin, which is easy to pigeonhole, dissociatives have that psychedelic overlap which makes us want to believe they are teachers too... and again, maybe they are, but they're just not that great at it, or the lessons are inscrutably difficult to interpret.

As far as DOC + amphetamine, I wouldn't advise it, the psychedelic amphetamines of the DOx class are always going to be particularly dangerous in combination with other stimulants compared to shorter lasting stimulant combos, primarily because of their long duration, if you happen to get into trouble you could be in for a very drawn out hard time that might cause lasting damage or require medical intervention. Even with medical intervention people have lost fingers and extremities due to excess and lasting vasoconstriction on too-heavy DOx doses, for example. Not that it can't be done very very carefully, perhaps, but personally I would expect the full spectrum of psychedelic effects from DOx to overwhelm a lesser stimulant anyway, so any miniscule additive effects are highly likely to be just not worth the risk.
 
My first acid trip we all got a red bull and drank it before dropping because we didn’t know shit about acid and it was like 2am. Somehow it worked out well but all our friends were a bit worried by our nonsensical communications that persisted for the following 24 hours lol. We had no words to describe it.

I mean really, how DO you describe LSD? Like a full on dose.
 
Aeon Psyche said:
I never noticed any stimulating properties with DOC but I'll take your word for it.
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DOC is so damn stimulating I can't sit still without freaking out. I once dosed 750ug at 6:30am after staying up all night and it was one of the most effective wakefulness agents I've ever used for staying up through the day, to the point that I had to take a large dose of etizolam to sleep that night.
 
Wow so funny you say it that way Psy because I use DOC for that exact purpose 70% of the time. Always take it on days I haven't slept well because it keeps you alert and you feel AMAZING at the same time. It is the most Stimulating Phenethylamines I ever had before at this point and once I can only imagine how stimulating something like DOI is because beside the Psych I'm on now is 2C-I and I bet it would surely work for this in Macro/Micro doses.

Personally I can sit still though and just ride the wave I love the stimulation it's so much smoother than something like Cocaine/Adderall. And best part is that you don't crash and this stuff just slowly fades. And I actually feel refreshed and in a lovely state the next day. After being up on a formal stimulant I'd feel like straight trash the next day. This is a feeling everyone should get to have in their life, all should seek it out. This one is just as important as Acid to me.
 
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Why do you think there is a difference between LSD and DOC concerning mixing it with concerta?
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I remember that some years ago someone took a very high amount of DOC and had such severe vasoconstriction they had to had their leg amputated. It was an insane amount, something like 50 mg or something, so 20x a normal dose ... but I think that can't happen with LSD even if you take a thumbprint or some crazy dose.

I would guess taking another vasoconstrictor, like amphetamine, would amplify the possibility of having adverse side effects. It all depends on the doses used, that's for sure.

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My first acid trip we all got a red bull and drank it before dropping because we didn’t know shit about acid and it was like 2am. Somehow it worked out well but all our friends were a bit worried by our nonsensical communications that persisted for the following 24 hours lol. We had no words to describe it.

I mean really, how DO you describe LSD? Like a full on dose.
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Lol, that sounds like hell to me, I once took some 2C-E an hour after my morning coffee and had the most anxious come-up ever. I've been extremely wary of mixing stims and psychedelics since then.
 
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I remember that some years ago someone took a very high amount of DOC and had such severe vasoconstriction they had to had their leg amputated. It was an insane amount, something like 50 mg or something, so 20x a normal dose ... but I think that can't happen with LSD even if you take a thumbprint or some crazy dose.

I would guess taking another vasoconstrictor, like amphetamine, would amplify the possibility of having adverse side effects. It all depends on the doses used, that's for sure.



Lol, that sounds like hell to me, I once took some 2C-E an hour after my morning coffee and had the most anxious come-up ever. I've been extremely wary of mixing stims and psychedelics since then.
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I agree, obviously I was naive at the time ahaha. We didn’t know the acid would keep us up anyways. But I still look back on that trip as one of the most transcendental and meaningful experiences of my life.

I often drink my coffee still before tripping these days; however, only with less serious psychs i.e. 2C-C and the like, and I also always take etizolam or alprazolam or o-dsmt or even all three with psychs, so it cancels out a lot of the coffee anxiety.
 
Hmm...I sniffed 50mg DOC once and had no vasoconstriction problems or any other kind. And I really don't see the stimulating aspect of DOC, it is al mental and psychedelic, not jaw-clenching, amphetamine-like in my opinion. But offcourse any strong enough trip is enough to keep you awake but it just doesn't work like a cup of coffee to me.
 
Are you sure the compound was DOC

50mgs would be a horrible experience and if you made it out alive it's a blessing. Taking a dose like that is VERY dangerous and nobody reading this should ever repeat such a thing. It will possibly be the last drug you ever take. This Psychedelic is active in ug's. Taking an overdose of a DOx would be a HORRIBLE way to die :(
 
A full dose of DOC is so stimulating, can't imagine doing speed on it too. Would be balls to the walls with all the stimulation.

The vasoconstriction makes it so that it's never quite comfortable until the plateau too. Most stimulating DOx I have tried.
 
I know that is a rediculous dose but I might add that I had quite a bit of tolerance so to speak.
 
Aeon Psyche said:
I sniffed 50mg DOC once and had no vasoconstriction problems or any other kind. And I really don't see the stimulating aspect of DOC
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The social tripping thread... well guys, I wish I was tripping. Instead I JUST got done working for the day. 16 hours. I did what was supposed to be 36 hours worth of work during the day though. No stimulants either! I did it because they gave me a bunch of work for next week but I'm going to be in the recording studio all week recording an album with my band. I was supposed to get the week off but my boss has been trying to take a week of vacation for months and finally got a chance and me him can't both be on vacation at the same time. So I'm trying to get all of my work for next week done before Sunday. I did most of it today because tomorrow is Thanksgiving and I'm going to the band house for dinner and music, then Friday and Saturday we're practicing basically full-time to finish getting ready for the studio.

Oh yeah and I made food for Thanksgiving tomorrow too. 8o Totally forgot. I don't know how I had so much energy today.

Aeon Psyche said:
Hmm...I sniffed 50mg DOC once and had no vasoconstriction problems or any other kind. And I really don't see the stimulating aspect of DOC, it is al mental and psychedelic, not jaw-clenching, amphetamine-like in my opinion. But offcourse any strong enough trip is enough to keep you awake but it just doesn't work like a cup of coffee to me.
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It's very hard to believe that you snorted 50mg of DOC, since that dose has caused limb amputations. Even 3mg makes my arm veins get really tiny and gives me cramps. I'm thinking you probably didn't have DOC, even if you thought you did. DOC is an amphetamine, of course it's stimulating. I've literally never heard anyone say DOC wasn't stimulating until now.

Seriously though I used to trip almost every day for years, and the highest I ever took DOC was about 7mg orally, and it was wildly strong and had gave me a ton of leg cramps. And I was taking it multiple times a week.
 
Hmm, 5mg of the stuff was enough to keep me tripping for 3 days and when I compared it to DOI, DOB and DOM, the effects really did fit the description...Besides the stimulating effect appearantly. Also compared to DOC, it did seem like DOC to me because I've tried like 3, 4 different batches in my lifetime. What people describe as stimulating isn't the same IMO if it's just the strength of a psychedelic that keeps you going mentally. I try to make a clear difference between any type of line of speed or hit of acid-like. I was careless back then. (+-10years ago), I've changed.
 
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