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Tell Me the Coolest Thing You Know About LSD

TripSitterNZ said:
Anybody get the first false peak on LSD where its like the acid is just lying to you and you think to yourself o wow is this all it i has i should of popped another tab then the true peak hits 20 minutes later with utter destruction and everything is just fractal geometric patterns and heavy reality morphing of objects
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Personally I feel it clearly at about T+45-60 minutes, but the true peak starts at about T+90-120 minutes.
Never taken more than 300ug so I wouldn't really know about the fractals except for CEVs.
 
I accidentally took 440ug once (didn't believe they were as strong as advertised) and I remember a couple hours in rainbows exploding out of every spot of air and my girlfriend's face and body. It was fucking amazing. The trip turned south and I ended up in jail, of course. I was so traumatized I've not managed to go over 100ug since. But damn I'd like to someday when I have a safe spot for it.

I don't think it helped my mindset that my gf (who had never Tripped before and took the same amount as me) confessed about an hour in that her father works for the CIA.
 
Man that's crazy dosages! One thing's for sure, LSD is very available these days, someone is making a LOT of it. The price is the lowest I've ever seen. The sheets my friend gets are insanely cheap (it's absurd) and 2 hits will make me trip hard... 1 is a great time.
 
Phobos said:
What they said is that the specific street LSD they tried was the same as Sandoz, not that all LSD is the same.
I never had different experiences when taking doses from the same sheet, BTW.
The variations from sheet to sheet sometimes are just dose related, sometimes there is something else at play, and that something is consistent through the whole sheet.
These differences have always been confirmed by people I tripped with more than a hundred times without me giving my opinion before they would try the batch, and this matter has also been brought up many times here on BL.
Some impurities are known to cause variations in the experience, so yeah, LSD is LSD, but it's the impurities that can cause a difference in effects from one batch to another.
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All I read is you didn't blind test confirm any of the nonsense you believe. All LSD is exactly the same
 
Viraldrome said:
All I read is you didn't blind test confirm any of the nonsense you believe. All LSD is exactly the same
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stop spreading this false knowledge you have no say on the matter. Only chemists do and i will relay what they say. You have not seen a acutal lsd lab in person. you have never seen raw lsd crystal flash in the dark. The reason i even joined these forums was after years of been on the internet and seeing so much misinformation about lsd around.
 
:"Some impurities are known to cause variations in the experience, "

Source? Besides your friend said it? All side effects anyone could ever mention from LSD are listed in original experiment notes from the 50s which used sandoz. So the impurity caused X side effect makes no sense, since sandoz causes it too. The idea you clowns can accurately tell the purity of LSD is laughable. Its either LSD or not LSD. To say anything else is bad information, you confirm what people told you about the source of crystal and the trip adjusted itself to your expectations. Convincing people they have bad crystal and therefore it was a bad experience too, like of that wouldn't have happened if you took the needlepoint man. There is no such thing as universally acknowledged print of "bad" LSD either.
 
Viraldrome said:
All I read is you didn't blind test confirm any of the nonsense you believe. All LSD is exactly the same
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I stated some things to express my disagreement with your post, but you refer to my post as "nonsense I believe".
Seems a bit of an uncalled for escalation of tone, you could take it down a notch as that part brought nothing to the discussion.

Regarding the blind testing, if I try a batch on my own, and then a few people after me try that same batch in my absence, separate from each other and without any comments from me, and everyone brings up exactly the same description afterwards, I would say that it is as valid as blind testing.

Many other people report the same, including Shulgin IIRC.

I would also like to ask you, when you said that dosages vary wildly from hit to hit, do you mean between different sheets or between tabs in the same sheet?
 
Viraldrome said:
:"Some impurities are known to cause variations in the experience, "

Source? Besides your friend said it? All side effects anyone could ever mention from LSD are listed in original experiment notes from the 50s which used sandoz. So the impurity caused X side effect makes no sense, since sandoz causes it too. The idea you clowns can accurately tell the purity of LSD is laughable. Its either LSD or not LSD. To say anything else is bad information, you confirm what people told you about the source of crystal and the trip adjusted itself to your expectations. Convincing people they have bad crystal and therefore it was a bad experience too, like of that wouldn't have happened if you took the needlepoint man. There is no such thing as universally acknowledged print of "bad" LSD either.
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But their is universal prints that have confusion naseusa and lower quality crystal. Sandoz lsd was far from pure they did not understand the chemistry we do today after shulgins method lsd improved alot. I have dropped over a hundred hits over my lifetime. I graduated in chemistry. ALL lsd chemists know the importance of purifying product if they making lsd for the experince and not for profit because purifcation of the crystal leads to massive losses. You will never get pure LSD karma goes and comes around and your vibe wouldn't sit well the true LSD crowd. Enjoy the bathtub crude lsd inferior experience. iso-lsd attachs to repectors blocking full effects of LSD leading to confusion and negative body effects. You have zero sources expect some erwoid article means nothing while i have in this game longer than you have been alive.
 
Viraldrome said:
:"Some impurities are known to cause variations in the experience, "

Source? Besides your friend said it? All side effects anyone could ever mention from LSD are listed in original experiment notes from the 50s which used sandoz. So the impurity caused X side effect makes no sense, since sandoz causes it too. The idea you clowns can accurately tell the purity of LSD is laughable. Its either LSD or not LSD. To say anything else is bad information, you confirm what people told you about the source of crystal and the trip adjusted itself to your expectations. Convincing people they have bad crystal and therefore it was a bad experience too, like of that wouldn't have happened if you took the needlepoint man. There is no such thing as universally acknowledged print of "bad" LSD either.
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The people I buy from don't tell me about the crystal, just dosage.
I never had a bad experience on LSD or any other psychedelic for that matter, so I would not really know how it is that you assume I'm blaming acid for a bad trip I did not have.

Also, "my friends said it" is exactly as valid as "that guy from the 50s said it".
Neither had been told what to expect.

I also never stated that I can accurately tell the purity of the LSD I took.

It is nearly impossible to find prints that are not copycated by someone, so my alien heads or greys or whatever are not necessarily dosed with the same batch that someone else took.

Again you are trying to insult our intelligence and experience calling us clowns, and keep bringing up your idea that our experiences with LSD are determined by what someone told me about the tabs I have.
Can you please discuss things normally?
 
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heatlessbbq said:
Excuse Me... What?
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You said LSD is microspopic, but it is an active dose (let's say 50ug) that is basically invisible to the naked eye and is microscopic.
If you have 10 grams of crystal it won't be microscopic.
 
10 grams of crystal? Lol.
1 mg is barley visible to the naked eye, Mate.

Have You ever even been around raw form?
if You have You must know what 700 mics is like...
 
heatlessbbq said:
10 grams of crystal? Lol.
1 mg is barley visible to the naked eye, Mate.

Have You ever even been around raw form?
if You have You must know what 700 mics is like...
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You missed my point, a substance, any substance, cannot be intrinsically microscopic , it is a small amount of anything that is microscopic, so I said that an active dose of LSD is actually microscopic, as that is remarkable about LSD, its potency by weight.
1mg is visible to the eye, you just won't be able to see details as you would with a microscope.
Regarding a 700ug quantity, do you know what kind of equipment you would need to even measure that weight accurately and thus know what it looks like?
 
Well sorry to be the bearer of bad news but LSD-25 is not visible to the naked eye [microscopic]. At dosages from 50ugs - 2mgs [2,000micrograms].

I challenge anyone to ration out 1/2 a milligram of pure LSD CRYSTAL under a microscope with a pair of scissors.
Not to mention a pair of human fingers... It's not possible.

All You need is a clean syringe/needle, everclear, and some raw LSD crystal [grams at a time preferred].
Only the most 'deadicated' know the ratios between liquid volume of Everclear and grams [mgs] of pure, genuine LSD-25 crystal.
 
Well sorry to be the bearer of bad news but LSD-25 is not visible to the naked eye [microscopic]. At dosages from 50ugs - 2mgs [2,000micrograms].

I challenge anyone to ration out 1/2 a milligram of pure LSD CRYSTAL under a microscope with a pair of scissors.
Not to mention a pair of human fingers... It's not possible.

All You need is a clean syringe/needle, everclear, and some raw LSD crystal [grams at a time preferred].
Only the most 'deadicated' know the ratios between liquid volume of Everclear and grams [mgs] of pure, genuine LSD-25 crystal.
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:cool:
 
Okay this is going nowhere. No one is saying that someone can eyeball out 1/2 milligram of LSD. Just that 1mg of any substance is visible to the naked eye. So is 1/2 milligram. 100 micrograms is barely visible, you'd have to know exactly where to look. Really I think we all agree though, it's amazing that the dose of LSD is so tiny.
 
heatlessbbq said:
Well sorry to be the bearer of bad news but LSD-25 is not visible to the naked eye [microscopic]. At dosages from 50ugs - 2mgs [2,000micrograms].
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You are confusing a dose with the substance itself.
50ug are probably close to or actually invisible, but 1 or 2 mgs are easily visible, and if you know where it is as Xorkoth says, you can spot even smaller quantities.


heatlessbbq said:
I challenge anyone to ration out 1/2 a milligram of pure LSD CRYSTAL under a microscope with a pair of scissors.
Not to mention a pair of human fingers... It's not possible.
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Completely agree. And the scale needed to weigh that quantity would cost several thousands and would be difficult to set up before you can operate it.


heatlessbbq said:
All You need is a clean syringe/needle, everclear, and some raw LSD crystal [grams at a time preferred].
Only the most 'deadicated' know the ratios between liquid volume of Everclear and grams [mgs] of pure, genuine LSD-25 crystal.
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Yes, that's how you actually dose LSD.
The correct ratio of LSD to solvent is not exclusive at all and is obtainable by anyone with a basic scientific education though, and the ratios can vary depending on the paper used (if making sheets).
Here it goes:

  1. Weigh the dry sheet
  2. Immerse dry sheet in solvent of choice (ie Everclear) until fully saturated
  3. now extract soaked sheet, let excess alcohol drip off, weigh the soaked sheet
  4. Weight of the soaked sheet - weight of dry sheet= amount of Everclear needed to saturate the sheet
  5. Multiply the desired LSD dose for one tab by the number of tabs in sheet (ie. 100ug x 900= 90mg)
  6. Now you know how much solvent and LSD you will need for one sheet, multiply if doing multiple sheets.
Won't go further in how to make sheets as I won't post instructions on how to prepare drugs for distribution.
The next steps are also way more difficult on a practical level and errors in the drying of the sheets will lead to unevenly dosed sheets.
It is inadvisable to improvise this steps and it should only be done under supervision of a person with experience in accurately laying blotters.
 
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