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w01fg4ng said:
All too well.
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Zopiclone bandit said:
@w01fg4ng

I've known this guy since I was 14 & I'm a lot older than you would think. His been in 2 relationships since I've known him & we are both addicts & we both have been for close to 20 years. He has my back & I have his, I gave him my last £10 so he could go score as he was starting to get sick & his new missus has no idea his addicted yet. He then burned me / fucked me over & didn't pay off his debt the day he said he would & left me sick. Now I have no idea if you know what heroin withdrawl is like but if not take my words for it the feeling isn't nice. Now when you are like that with someone in the heroin world your friendship takes on a whole new league & to be left dope sick because his woman his been with 2 months & a few days is barking is a pure insult to me.

You'll never understand unless you been there, feel free to post as much underhanded comments to me as you like though.
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That sucks, but all of this is your mate's fault because he's a sucker. It's not the girl's fault. The blame is completely on him alone for being a shitty friend. She can't make him do anything he doesn't want to do.

I only say that because I was getting the feeling you were blaming her for his actions. Soon enough, it will fall apart anyway. He can't hide who he really is for long.
 
Yeah what he described is pretty typical of relationships in the druggie world. Everything just becomes pretty transactional after a while...and getting ripped off by so-called friends is definitely a theme
 
w01fg4ng said:
My 17 yr old self would have agreed with you. I grew out of it and so did all my friends sometime in our twenties. Sure it was tough for most of us to see our friends drop off because of relationships but that was the beauty of it. REAL friendships survived through it, even if one friend got married. Real friends support each other’s decisions, even if those decisions include a life with a woman (gasp!).

It’s counterproductive to blame your friend’s girlfriend for your own jealousy.





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I'm not sure if you have seen it, but ZB posted in other threads about his friend and how he changed for the worst as a person.
Now, real friends do support each other choices, but also warn them when they do mistakes.
Moving in the woman's home and giving up his own and getting a joint account with a person you've known for 2 months is exactly the thing any good friend should warn you about.
In particular his friend seems potentially vulnerable due to long abstinence from relationships.
Not to mention that not honouring a debt is fucked up.
 
^ I see your point. ZB could tell his friend he's very concerned about how
fast things are moving. (Mention moving in, joint account etc)
He could give his opinion that his friend needs to slow down. His friend might be the type who will get offended and mad because he pointed that out. Even if he does get offended, at least you know you tried your best to warn him. That's all you can do. The rest is up to your mate.
 
fact is some people will ditch all their friends when they get a relationship

so thats just some people, get old you will see it often

its why its good to spread your friends out a bit, most people in a relationship with a job full time cant see their friends constantly, you have to make effort, the good ones shine through
 
I'm just waiting till his sick again & I'll tell him to go fuck off & he will have to go back to his woman with his nose running, sneezing & all the joys of opiate withdrawl. 20ml of methadone isn't gonna cut it when you got a decent habit.
 
Zopiclone bandit said:
I'm just waiting till his sick again & I'll tell him to go fuck off & he will have to go back to his woman with his nose running, sneezing & all the joys of opiate withdrawl. 20ml of methadone isn't gonna cut it when you got a decent habit.
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Yes, send him to his girlfriend dopesick and she will really see what she's gotten into. It's actually a brilliant plan. lol
 
Phobos said:
Moving in the woman's home and giving up his own and getting a joint account with a person you've known for 2 months is exactly the thing any good friend should warn you about.
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I moved in with my current partner with only 2 months of knowing each other. We've been together for over 10 years now and it's the best relationship I've ever been in.
 
^That's good for you, but this is a totally different situation obviously. His friend is being played. She's already holding his card and about to get a joint account. She'll have access to all of his money. The moving in is just the icing on the cake. Actually, good for her. Well played. His friend is the one making the wrong moves and being used.
 
CoastTwoCoast said:
^That's good for you, but this is a totally different situation obviously. His friend is being played. She's already holding his card and about to get a joint account. She'll have access to all of his money. The moving in is just the icing on the cake. Actually, good for her. Well played. His friend is the one making the wrong moves and being used.
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Do you think a guy who rips off his friend for heroin is going to have any money to steal from? If she doesn't use dope, maybe he will finally get off of it. That's what happened to me.
 
w01fg4ng said:
Do you think a guy who rips off his friend for heroin is going to have any money to steal from? If she doesn't use dope, maybe he will finally get off of it. That's what happened to me.
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That's true, it doesn't seem like he has much money anyway. She's going to take the little money he does have. Hopefully he will get off of the dope.
I'm really glad you were able to quit.

I will never try heroin, I know it would be the end for me.
 
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