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Mental Health Coming off Invega Sustenna (Paliperidone) v3

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Invegakillsme said:
Listen to me ok! There is no remedy or saint John's fart that's going to help you ok. Nothing!! Only time will kill the drug. I healed in 9 months. Everyone fuckn heals! Just wait it out don't be a bitch
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Ok different tone for sure. I’m a year and two months out. I was just wondering my bad for inquiring.
 
Invegakillsme said:
I smoke weed everyday!!!!
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The way weed affects you after Invega is completely different than a normal person. The high is not the same 6 months after Invega, it's not worth it! paranoia, anxiety, DP/DR at higher doses (Invega effect). A tiny hit and you'll be high but depersonalized. The high is not as happy as the way it should be for normal person. Cognitive side effects are bad even for normal person, but for us multiple times worst! Most importantly your memory, speed, thought formulation, and speech will be worst on smoke free days and you won't even notice it. If you think you can be ok by just smoking one puff rarely, (wrong) you will still be heavily affected for days ahead. I recommend you quit. It takes at least a week for it to come back so it's hard to suddenly notice.

Come on guys we need stuff that improve our cognitive abilities, not make it worst.

Now regarding non-addictive smart drugs that do work which you can easily buy legally:
  1. Nootropics - each day combine 2 different ones (Phenylpiracetam, Oxiracetam, GBR-12935, GBR-12909, Bemethyl) everyday something different. If you get headaches you might need Choline (but too much choline will cause issues).
  2. Natural - must combine many and take all together daily so that you really feel it (Kava, Mucuna, l-dopa, 5-htp, l-theanine).
 
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Invegakillsme said:
Listen to me ok! There is no remedy or saint John's fart that's going to help you ok. Nothing!! Only time will kill the drug. I healed in 9 months. Everyone fuckn heals! Just wait it out don't be a bitch
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I partially Agree:
  1. There is many things that you never tried. For example have you tried microdose of DMT (which is not even that addictive)? If you have enough discipline with the highly addictive stuff what you could try is cycling different stuff everyday. With things that are mentally addictive such as Ketamine (which is usually prescribed for depression) you can microdose it twice a week but never more than 3 times a week. Constraint physically addictive stuff such as Phenibut, GHB, Kratom to just once a week but never more than twice a week. You would have to experiment with what works. Never do more than a microdose (sub-perceptual, barely noticeable). Some things such as Kratom can be obtained legaly from clearnet vendors and Phenibut you can get from research chemical vendors. Others easily on darknet.
  2. I fully agree with John's Fart. Don't bother with these near placebo herbs like St. John's Wort. It can take months of headaches before it shows slight and short acting effect.
 
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lifeline said:
@Invegakillsme thats good to hear that your feeling better. I may try Wellbutrin again. Something to help with relief.
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You might later regret making that call. It takes a month of side effects before SSRIs starts working and then you will have other side effects such as hair loss. Some say Wellbutrin is just about a week or two but for others it takes 6 weeks. Tapering off will cause long time of depression and withdrawals. It can mess with your brain in many ways. When you quit it can make anxiety go through the roof. You can feel like being electrocuted. This sensation is making it so you can't fall asleep either and pot would just make you feel worst. You can end up in hospital, how's that for relief? SSRI bottles used to have warning label saying warning may cause suicide. The reason is that your brain can withdraw so bad that you will end up with a major depression making you kill yourself. Even if you live, nobody can restore your brain to prior to SSRIs. Prep to rename your user to ssriskillsme. Just like Invega you can be cognitively impaired and remain with depression that will seem like permanent damage.
 
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Invegakillsme said:
Listen to me ok! There is no remedy or saint John's fart that's going to help you ok. Nothing!! Only time will kill the drug. I healed in 9 months. Everyone fuckn heals! Just wait it out don't be a bitch
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Actually, SJW is an inducer of multidrug resistance protein 1 aka p-glycoprotein. The protein's job is to pump foreign substances out from cells, into blood. THC found in cannabis does this also. Even though weed didn't work properly for me at like 3-4 months off the shots, I kept smoking it. Now I'm 8.5 months off the crap and the effects of it are back to normal. Even coffee and cigs do their jobs now. SJW is far more safer to use for this purpose than cannabis for people that have suffered a psychotic episode. But for example, I abused harder drugs and didn't sleep or eat properly, which lead to me going into psychosis. I've never had any issues with weed though and I still don't. And if this is the case for you, I really suggest blasting dat good-good. Weed also relieved the anxiety and depression that invega caused me to have.

Sauce;
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

St Johns wort increases expression of P-glycoprotein: implications for drug interactions - PubMed

SJW increased expression and enhanced the drug efflux function of the multi drug transporter P-glycoprotein in PBMCs of healthy volunteers. This may represent a second mechanism for the drug-herb interactions seen in clinical practice and account for the discrepancies between in vitro and in...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
www.nature.com

The Differential Binding of Antipsychotic Drugs to the ABC Transporter P-Glycoprotein Predicts Cannabinoid–Antipsychotic Drug Interactions - Neuropsychopharmacology

Cannabis use increases rates of psychotic relapse and treatment failure in schizophrenia patients. Clinical studies suggest that cannabis use reduces the efficacy of antipsychotic drugs, but there has been no direct demonstration of this in a controlled study. The present study demonstrates that...
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You like to speak very scientific, and that probably works real good for yourself to convince your own self... St Johns Fart will definitely work for you since you are such a fart believer. That's how placebos work... It takes 3 months of headaches to work if it farts at all... It rarely farts anything even for normal people... The farts is useless, waste of people's time. If you suggest something suggest real stuff that works real well and you feel it strong and fast.

Why are you suggesting blasting dat skunk when you know how it impacts your cognitive abilities and we are not the type of people that need that. Just google "reddit weed memory". Many report that their social life, anxiety, and depression all get better when quit smoking. They become less reserved, more like their true self. Because of weed social skills decline as many can't articulate properly, don’t feel sharp when talking, feel anxious and awkward in conversations, also tend to reminisce a lot about past interactions.

All this talk about skunk and farts remove foreign smells out of your system is just talk. It does nothing at all that a person can physically notice.

The more you give us your farts and skunk science, the more it stinks up in here!

Fart & Invega Ref: https://www.healthtap.com/user_ques...stenna-paliperidone-palmitate-out-of-my-syste
 
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I wish people would not joke or be condescending. This thread needs positivity and support. People should share what they are struggling with and how they are coping and any improvements that have followed.

Question, is anyone suffering or did suffer from racing thoughts, urge to urinate or muscular tightness and how are you coping, any improvements?

3 months off Invega injection.
 
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