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Meth ⫸Methamphetamine Megathread⫷

It's hard to appreciate sometimes just how much the essentials have an effect on your buzz. There's few stim situations that can't be solved with Food, Fluids, Shower and a Valium. You're in real trouble if the holy trifecta plus a vally doesn't have you back on course eventually.
 
RetrogradeRetard said:
It's hard to appreciate sometimes just how much the essentials have an effect on your buzz. There's few stim situations that can't be solved with Food, Fluids, Shower and a Valium. You're in real trouble if the holy trifecta plus a vally doesn't have you back on course eventually.
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^this
If you can?t comedown from this chemical get ready for a ride. It?ll take you places that are truly terrifying.
A week without sleep, phoning drug connects at odd hours... oh you?ll be there in no time.
The good news: if you binge safe (clean gear/methods) you are and are ready for the comedown blues. Expect and Respect the comedown!
 
Yep first time my ex decided to let me have some to lose weight he made me promise I would never slam it like he did. We split 16 years ago and I have held that promise. 10 years ago I caught up with him on Facebook he was near death needed surgery but wouldn't stop slamming. Preferred to die. I always will wonder about the high burr I won't do it.
 
Not that I'm replying two years later, but one time I had a huge shot of ice and decided to only to half of it after I'd already registered, so of course blood got mixed in with the half I didn't do. I didn't touch it for 4-5 days, squirted the bloody shot out into a cap, filtered it, and did it. Didn't hurt me any. And I always find shots that have had blood in them for any amount of time hite differently. I know that it technically wouldn't be enough "extra" blood to cause a blood rush to your head, but that's almost what it feels like.
 
Okayyyy so I'm new here, forgive me if I don't quite follow all the rules correctly.
I read almost this entire forum, as well as a couple of the other meth forums, and didn't find so much as a vaguely similar question.
Can anyone tell me what exactly causes you to get that burn in your throat (we call it dragonbreath where I'm from haha) after IV'ing meth? Curious because not every batch illicits this reaction, and some burn worse than others.
 
Hey, welcome to Bluelight linrae!

Not sure about your question, but is probably a cutting agent. Especially if you coined a term for it and you all buy from the same plug?
 
Cutting agent or it could possibly be a spike in BP. Also could be contaminants such as hexane etc. Most likely it's a combination of all three.
 
Dragon breath is a pretty popular term in the US as far as I've noticed. It's a result of what the chemical does to your lungs before (after?) it passes through the heart. I'm not sure why sometimes it's more intense but it probably is related to tolerance.
 
The first drug I ever used, first time I altered my consciousness, was MDMA. I didn't think drunk or stoned people behaved in a way I would enjoy, which I absolutely confirmed later. I loved MDMA but despite using it max 4x a year, at least 3mo between uses, 1 pill per roll, by the 12th time I took it, I only experienced negative effects. Unfortunately I do tend to build tolerances to stims & stimulating psychiatric meds (Prozac, Effexor, etc), often permanent tolerance.

About a year later I encountered meth which I have always preferred to take orally (which to me feels quite similar to MDMA but highly, wonderfully sexual for me) & quickly became my new fave especially as I find it to be very functional at lower doses & I was in university. Then I decided to try IVing it; it was the first drug I ever shot. I have tiny veins, low blood pressure, poor circulation & am chronically cold (plus female & very much not well muscled in my upper body). My felllw BL friends the night I shot were too freaked to even babysit let alone assist me in any way, but the injection was flawless (still can't believe I hit that tiny vein in my wrist 1st go) & almost instantly I felt an incomparable, euphoric sensation in my brain, that sort of felt like little bubbles fizzing or popping. I've never felt that sensation since, & I was pissed at the time that I hadn't IVed more (too concerned to do more than a tiny dose), bc it was definitely nowhere near a recreational dose.

Other than the initial rush, I wasn't impressed by the effects or lack thereof. A few years later I IVed a much bigger dose, too much in fact, as I dislike feeling extremely high (control freak obsessed with mental clarity). And not a hint of that special little rush from my first time; I definitely still prefer oral. I've smoked quite a bit mostly as a social thing & snorted it 1-2x; both ways I find are much less euphoric, more jittery & unpleasant, especially snorting. Haven't tried plugging but I've been unimpressed by the effects of all the other drugs I've plugged, though it is certainly better than snorting when it comes to stims. But oral stims are just best for me.

I probably won't use it again bc of the overall toxicity, but I will forever wonder about that initial fizzy bubble rush. Was it due to IVing, & would I have experienced it no matter what I'd IVed first? Or at least with any stim? Was it dose dependent; maybe the overwhelming nature of my 2nd time prevented me from feeling it then? Or what? Btw, it was definitely meth both times, but perhaps the ratio of dl isomers had something to do with it? I've IVed coke a few times & while I found it very pleasurable unlike all other coke ROAs, & moreso than IV meth though definitely not worth the duration, that too failed to produce the special sensation.

I had large quantities on hand for long times & I never had the desire to use it more than at most 2x a month, and even that was not common, so it can certainly be used, even IVed, without leading to addiction. I've observed both personally & generally that the common non-oral ROAs, especially smoking & IV, are the most addictive aspect of meth use, rather than the drug itself. Likewise for coke particularly. Rituals are incredibly powerful.
 
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@fairnymph: I've come to accept that the first time IVing anything is as good as it's going to get with that particular drug, save for some psychedelics. I've never done meth, but my experience with opiates mirrors yours. I've even had clean time of varying length in between my IV stints, but never got that first rush back. I think part of it is the novelty of that route of administration. We often hear that IV anything is the best, but no amount of story from others can possibly prepare us adequately for it. Then, when we sit down to try it, everything is new, and it really is the best in terms of effects. The next time, we have a realistic experience to form expectations around it, and that notion somehow alters our experience of it.
 
Yeah I definitely do think it could be that. However, I'd like to note that IV coke feels the same all 3-4x I've done it, the first time wasn't special beyond it being novel. I've never noticed a real difference between my first h shot & my last one or any in between; I've only IVed a few psychs 1x each so can't comment there. And I really don't enjoy IV meth anywhere as much as oral. I honestly wonder if it was purely psychosomatic? I don't tend to be prone to placebo etc, almost never, but there are surely exceptions. Btw I was born in Canada...where are you living now? Curious if you're near me. :)
 
Burnt Offerings said:
The only thing that goes well with meth is more meth.

As another poster said, save your downers for when you come-down and start hating life.
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Not true...ketamine & meth go beautifully together. Though IME, ketamine goes well with everything. Especially stims & psychs though. I also know people who love meth + MDMA but that sounds way too toxic, dangerous & overwhelming to me.
 
So I recently threw a whole bag away (which is a big deal, I don't know any meth user that would just up and throw a bag away). I was suspect of it ever since I gotten it home and actually looked at it. It was flat in appearance... I licked it, it tasted pretty bitter. I did half of what I normally would (I IV so just to be safe...) And I did not get any kind of rush or euphoria that comes along with IVing meth. I didn't feel energized or focused. I thought maybe it was a weak shot so I made up another. Nothing, and I know I didn't miss or slip, both injection sites looked like shit. I've read from other sources that cartels have been using n-iso crystals to not just cut meth but have just been selling it to poor, unsuspecting users... Which is lame.

I researched what I could. I don't have any reagent kits but I tried smoking it... Takeaway from smoking it, it tasted like it could have been real... It melted fine, it recrystallized fine, it was cloudy though... No rush from smoking.

I tried snorting it... Noticed that it crumbled into smaller pieces easier than actual meth... It burnt like hell but still no rush. Just a good awful drip that nearly made me puke a few times.

I felt nothing but a panic kind of anxious which kept me up worrying about what the hell I injected, smoked and snorted. Decided to try a bleach test... Poured some bleach in a cup and dropped some of it in .. some of it was consistent with how meth should react. It jumped around and left an oily residue on the top, but most of it sunk and this milky white cloud showed up...

That's when I threw it out. A bag with maybe a little bit of meth in it but mostly garbage.

Has any one else gotten a bad batch that's suspect? I just recently started IVing again after not using at all for 2 years... Is this just the way it is nowadays? I'm worried it can cause a lot of harm to those who IV.
 
Meth and diabetes, how bad is this?

I'm new and this is my first post. Really needing advice. A brief history: I've used meth off and on for the past 4 years or so, a few weeks on then a few months off, smoking only until recently. I'd get burned out and no real desire to continue... no problem. A little over a year ago I IV'd for the first time after being sober for 6 months. Just had a bad breakup, loss of a job, and my car dying all in the same week... I was in a bad place and a friend introduced me to the idea, said it would help... I was reluctant to try it from the start mostly due to being a type 1 diabetic and the impact on my heath IV would have. He assured me it wasn't any worse than smoking so I agreed to a small amount. The rush was intense andI felt amazing! But that shot led to almost a 2 week bender with barely any sleep, forget to eat, forget to hydrate... at the end i remember my chest hurting, felt my heart beating out of my chest, blood was thick and hard to register at that point, paranoia and anxiety, guilt, depression, constant worry and hyper aware of the way my body felt. My buddies were all doing these huge monster shots and mine were a fraction of that but still I felt like I was more likely to have a heart attack because of my diabetes. In hindsight it was only an intense panic attack. But in that moment it was real and to "save myself" I insisted he dose me a shot of H to counter and level out. I'd swore that H was something I'd never do and I haven't again since. But it opened my eyes how outta control it had become. That 2 weeks was the longest day of my life and the events that went on just blur together. I quit everything and moved home with family...

Fast forward to now. I had been clean for 10 months. 3 month's ago i started a new job, got a place, began a new relationship, and recently a car with the overtime. She enjoyed meth on occasion so I told her my story and the lessons I learned. I told myself that now I knew what bottom looks like so I can prevent a downward spiral. I'm in control. Wasn't long before I'm using the needle again primarily. Eating, hydrating, and sleeping fairly regular, adulting. We became close and then she left me a month ago and im back in my feelings. I have no social and now i work 12 hours a day 6 days a week. Ive been shooting at least 4 times a day almost everyday since early October. It's become routine. I've checked myself into the ER twice since then thinking I'd done too much. Both times they said I was fine, gave me benzos and sent me on. Even with all that I still continue to push the limits, I tell myself now that I need the overtime. My family is rooting for me and far as they know I'm on the right track. Fact is I've relapsed. I'm keeping the doses relatively small but my tolerance is building and I don't see an end in sight now. I want to know how bad I'm hurting myself with my condition and prolonged use? I'm afraid but also very curious of what a "monster shot" might do to me. I've read so many post about people doing half gram shots and it being great where my half gram lasts me 3 or 4 days only to stay awake. My biggest fear is to be found dead by my mom when she's done all she can to help me and thinks im making good choices. Shes proud of all the progress I've made but she doesn't know I'm still in the fight... no one does. I need to quit or at least know where the limit is. How long can i keep this up? What symptoms are real and dangerous as opposed to just panic and anxiety? How or if it is more harmful to someone with diabetes? What will happen and what to expect as normal if i continue mild to moderate daily use? These are my thoughts and Any input is appreciated.
 
Allure said:
So I recently threw a whole bag away (which is a big deal, I don't know any meth user that would just up and throw a bag away). I was suspect of it ever since I gotten it home and actually looked at it. It was flat in appearance... I licked it, it tasted pretty bitter. I did half of what I normally would (I IV so just to be safe...) And I did not get any kind of rush or euphoria that comes along with IVing meth. I didn't feel energized or focused. I thought maybe it was a weak shot so I made up another. Nothing, and I know I didn't miss or slip, both injection sites looked like shit. I've read from other sources that cartels have been using n-iso crystals to not just cut meth but have just been selling it to poor, unsuspecting users... Which is lame.

I researched what I could. I don't have any reagent kits but I tried smoking it... Takeaway from smoking it, it tasted like it could have been real... It melted fine, it recrystallized fine, it was cloudy though... No rush from smoking.

I tried snorting it... Noticed that it crumbled into smaller pieces easier than actual meth... It burnt like hell but still no rush. Just a good awful drip that nearly made me puke a few times.

I felt nothing but a panic kind of anxious which kept me up worrying about what the hell I injected, smoked and snorted. Decided to try a bleach test... Poured some bleach in a cup and dropped some of it in .. some of it was consistent with how meth should react. It jumped around and left an oily residue on the top, but most of it sunk and this milky white cloud showed up...

That's when I threw it out. A bag with maybe a little bit of meth in it but mostly garbage.

Has any one else gotten a bad batch that's suspect? I just recently started IVing again after not using at all for 2 years... Is this just the way it is nowadays? I'm worried it can cause a lot of harm to those who IV.
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Bro what you described is what I had been experiencing. Granted it could of been tolerance for me since I was using everyday but trust me I know what a good shot feels like and I remember when I IVd the shit I was getting.. it was very different. It felt like I was going to have a heart attack, the rush came on quickly to the point of being terrifying but it wasn't a pleasurable rush.. it just felt like I had overdosed on niacin. My face was flushed and stained red and I just felt like total complete crap afterwards. My pupils didn't even dilate but I was sketchy and tired. The old stuff fucked me off my tree and kept me twacked for days and days but this shit that's coming in from Mexico is garbage. There's very little meth in it.. and the rest is cut with Iso or whatever crap the cartels use.. either way I'm glad I haven't gone back. I've got a month and some couple days clean.. fuck it.. I'm keeping my sobriety and my peace of mind and health in order cuz it just ain't worth the risk. The side effects from these cuts are fucking brutal too.. I mean meth in general is a fucked up drug if one isn't careful but I was taking all sorts of precautions and getting my food intake, rest, proper hygiene.. but this shit you just can't keep up with! It's poison! It's garbage! And if you ain't feeling good then there's no point even bothering with it. The good ole days of decent meth is gone and I've come to terms with that! Good luck bro and stay safe!
 
It's sis* not bro ?? but SERIOUSLY! The first time I ever tried it it was the good shit... the shit where you couldn't even finish a bowl without staying up for a week! It's garbage whatever it is now. It has just enough to keep you craving but damn it I just can't catch a good rush like I did when I first started IV-ing. I relapsed at the beginning of the year after 2 years clean time and have been using a bit most days... The days I don't use I feel pretty depleted. It sucks... I'm looking for this rush that I don't think I'll ever be able to find again. I want to feel my whole body tingle bwahahaha! I sleep every night (even if it's a couple hours), I eat every day, I drink plenty of water. But that's mostly so my friends and family don't catch on... I've been doing this for 6 weeks and so far no one has questioned me. Blessing? Curse? Idk anymore. I'm planning on slowly dosing down to nothing (fingers crossed) I'm scared with all the cut and adulterants... A friend of mine told me there are some batches with fent cut in it. How do you know if it's yours? When you OD I guess. SMH. Hope you stay safe as well friend.
 
Allure said:
It's sis* not bro ?? but SERIOUSLY! The first time I ever tried it it was the good shit... the shit where you couldn't even finish a bowl without staying up for a week! It's garbage whatever it is now. It has just enough to keep you craving but damn it I just can't catch a good rush like I did when I first started IV-ing. I relapsed at the beginning of the year after 2 years clean time and have been using a bit most days... The days I don't use I feel pretty depleted. It sucks... I'm looking for this rush that I don't think I'll ever be able to find again. I want to feel my whole body tingle bwahahaha! I sleep every night (even if it's a couple hours), I eat every day, I drink plenty of water. But that's mostly so my friends and family don't catch on... I've been doing this for 6 weeks and so far no one has questioned me. Blessing? Curse? Idk anymore. I'm planning on slowly dosing down to nothing (fingers crossed) I'm scared with all the cut and adulterants... A friend of mine told me there are some batches with fent cut in it. How do you know if it's yours? When you OD I guess. SMH. Hope you stay safe as well friend.
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That?s good you?re eating and sleeping. You?ll be able to pull off using for a bit longer than if you haven?t.
 
Hi OP,

I've been a type 1 diabetic since the age of 6 (diagnosed in 1989) and I am now 35. I've been an invtravenous meth user for 17 years now, usage has fluxtuated from a few points once every couple of weeks to a gram a day (yes very bad, I know) and everywhere in between.

I am in good health. I have regular bloods and physical checkups done, my most recent being done by a corporate health provider I was working for and BP, Cholesterol etc were all good. My last HbA1c was 6.1 (I think that on the NGSP scale) which is not too bad. Would be a bit high for a non-diabetic but decent for a T1 DM.

Anyway whilst none of this is any sort of proof that I haven't done horrible things to my insides and am sure to die a swift and brutal death in the very near future - it does show that by paying attention to the fact that you ARE different to the poeple you're using with and you DO need to do additional things that they will not - you can definitely keep yourself a lot safer.

People without a chronic illness may not be aware of what you or I go through on the daily, I understand that T1 Diabetes is a burden and personally, there is almost not a single fucking minute that passes in a day where my brain does not wonder what my blood sugar is doing at that exact time and then ponde the consequences/how to improve it/how the current level will affect me in the short and long term. It is fucking exhausting and it's the kind of exhaustion that bubble below the surface and you may not notice.

The hedonistic "throwing caution to the wind" feeling that meth gave me felt like it came straight from god themselves (I'm not religious, just a crude analogy) as I finally felt free and normal for a blissful 8-10 hours.

But when I came back down the diabetes was still there, lying in wait with a nice side of guilt and paranoia about how this binge and temporary lack of care had affected me.

I'm not for a second going to tell you not to do meth - meth is fucking wonderful and has been responsible for some of the best and most enlightening/beautiful experiences of my life. I hold a reverance for meth the way a lot of peole hold a reverance for psychedelics. But the absolute fucking worst thing you can do is pretend you're normal and that you dont have diabetes.

Accept it, embrace it, overcome the hurdles. Set alarms on your phone to test your BSL and inject (insulin lol) or eat food. Speak to a doctor, if you don't have an understanding one then perhaps have a scout around and see if you can find one.

Also I cannot recommend enough speaking to a counsellor or psych or Alcohol & other Drugs worker - they will all have invaluable input. Above all, remember you have to do things slightly differently than other people and that's just the way it is. I know it sucks but if you ever need to chat you're welcome to message me.

Hope I didn't get the wrong end of the stick with your post, be careful with monster shots too - as you may well be fine after a monster shot, but it is very hard to go back to 0.5 or 1 pointers when you've just done a 4 point screamer the day before. Amphet tolerance is an absolute motherfucker.

Take care :-)
 
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