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Harm Reduction Cold Water Extraction (CWE) Mega Thread & FAQ v2.0

Painful One said:
lol!!!!

I don't control the weather * shrugs
I just know I am very loved by GOD!
And he does not think it is fun and games to make light of such a serious thing as Liver Failure by way of Tylenol Poisoning!!!
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How do you know what God thinks?
 
My dilemma: I get 90 8mg Dilaudid/ Hydromorphone per month from my PM doctor. My ROA is IV'g half 4mg at a time. I tend to run out early & I'm able to get LORCET HD 10/325 to get me through till next appt. I usually just take them orally (chew them w/D. Coke). I've never plugged or did a CWE. Ran out of D/HM today & got 50 LORCET's. I admit that I didn't read all 31 pages of this thread. But read some of it trying to learn more about CWE. From what I've read, it's very confusing to me & I don't have all the supplies. My only supplies are for IVg (1ml/1cc 30ga 1/2" syringes, PVDF Filters & alcohol prep pads). Seems like most of the CWE instructions consists of 30+ pills at a time. So I'm thinking to just continue w/oral ROA since I only have 50 to last me until my appt next Thursday 10/25. Am I right in my thinking? Am I missing anything about the best ROA for me? Thanks.
 
Cold water extraction is not nearly as difficult as people say. To be honest, if you throw Vicodin, Percocet, Tylenol #3, etc., into water, they immediately dissolve. After a short time in the fridge, take it out an stir it, and let all the paracetamol settle to the bottom of the glass. Now all you need to do is be mindful of your water to substance_______ ratio, so you know how to dose it. You can even do this in less than an hour with tap water, even if it isn't that cold. Either way, adding the tablets to the water will make them immediately dissolve and separate. The water with substance__________ can be extracted with a long dropper into whatever you like. I prefer a 30ml dropper bottle. Then if you want, you can "wring out" the remaining toxins in the bottom of the glass by using a coffee filter folded over upon itself, then you can use two large spoons to squeeze what might remain of the active ingredient out of the white, nasty para that remains. So no...there is no magic to CWE, and it is so easy you will wonder why you ever made it so complicated. I have done this hundreds of times, and again...it is NOT complicated or difficult. Anyone can do it, and it works every time. I actually do not know how or why TEKS on CWE ended up being so ridiculously detailed or complicated. It simply is so easy you could train a chimpanzee to do it.
 
Hi this only my second post so apologies if in the wrong place, I like my Codiene cwe always crystal clear but I've not done for a few weeks and have tried 30/500 x10 so 300 mg but not getting much of a nod or anything much, maybe a little more chilled , I'm thinking about popping a couple more so another 60 mg within the first hour ? Is this enough to enhance the effects much?

I have a huge tolerance to all drugs even anaesthetic ( which never fails to astonish aneathesists 4 syringes of stuff that knocks most peeps in one)

I kind off know the ceiling especially after I accidently ( yep) took 3 bottles of oramorph , basically I got high and just kept taking I had in total 12-1300 mg 3 bottles and had to call hospital while I still could resulting in a very nasty experience between me and a naloxone ( narcan) jab a few years ago.


I don't get high that often as I have a responsible job and tend to chill during my time off , I get a lot of leave , holidays but also work hard too.

I have diazepam too and all medication is prescribed I also have zoplicone, clonozepam, and amytriptilline all prescribed by GP however I don't mix them apart from the diazepam which I take as needed .

Any thought ? Please be kind I'm really new, I've been using this site for around 15 years , more so after I made a synthetic heroin from a certain drug and had to ask the drug team ( that I liaise with at work) for advice , luckily they laughed a as I said I'd googled some medicine in the cupboard that I had taken home from the hospital after my father died , and I needed some sleep.

Why the hospital give you the persons medication to take home after they've died is beyond me , but it's considered their belongings , I have a small arsenal here after 7 bereavements ;)
 
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Oh and I don't have any antihystamenes in the place , always have usually but box was empty :) so itchy city here I come .
Thanks everyone
 
Codiene princess said:
Oh just looked I've posted more than I thought , don't remember though.
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Sorry, what was your actual question again? Usually redosing straight after doesn't work. Something to do with the enzyme that converts codeine to morphine being in limited supply or codeine itself inhibiting it, I forget the exact details but if your CWE hasn't worked and you're sure your usual technique is fine then I suggest just sacking it off and trying again another day.
 
Well, I'd never CWE percocets anymore. If I had too high a tolerance I wouldn't use them as I can't waste any amount of oxycodone in those pills.

For codeine though, I've gotten high off 5 100mg doses lately. Well, the first 2 or 3 just made me feel weird but then it was straight back to feeling like perhaps 30mg of oral morphine. It felt a lot like that, and I really liked it as I hadn't used in 10 months. Tweaked my back, was going to relapse anyway I'm getting nowhere and I'm a functional junkie.

This took me soo long to figure out how to do it right. Search "safe cold water extraction" on youtube there is a really good video by a dude with an accent who is clearly a pro. Cleared up every question I've ever had regarding this. But I wouldn't take more than 100mg codeine at a time since a decent amount of apap like a gram or something can still be in 50 mL's of clear water. 100mg codeine with weed gets me a good buzz though and pain relief, first step to a relapse but that is how things roll sometimes and it has been building up for a long time now.

It's not that important to do and a waste of good drugs unless you have good drugs and are really desperate and are too tolerant for them, or you want to get a decent dose of codeine out of like 20 pills. I'd never waste my percocets doing this though, it's not possible to know the percentage loss so the procedure is inherently inaccurate. I presume about a 20% loss of product with proper technique.

Just make sure the filters don't get clogged it slows the drip and then your water will warm up a bit. Better to use several glasses and combine in a bottle after, I measure out 50mL for each dose. I don't know why I found this complicated before but it didn't help to do it with like 6 pills. That's a total waste but i you do it right with like 100 codeine pills and have a low tolerance, I'd do it with hydrocodone too those are pretty useless on their own, then you'll end up with a bitter, clear to very very slightly hazy (NOT cloudy whatsoever) solution that is fine to take that dose of. If you want it stronger I'd use more pills, I'd do the same thing with double the pills. Since I wouldn't want to take more than 50mL of clear water while dosing.

Lots of religious talk on here, give that a break it's a cold water extraction thread. It's really not that important to do unless you have a lot of weak pills for of APAP. Don't waste your drugs if you have like 3 percs total just take them, a gram of APAP isn't that that bad. I think I'd be more concerned about addiction than the APAP in the pills. I just do this to get a heavier hit with roughly the same amount of APAP which would ideally be zero.
 
Hey y'all I don't believe I'm in the right place(if not can I please have some direction). Is there anyway to extract methadone from the red liquid into a form to be able to be insnuffulated?
 
13_forkliftgod_13 said:
Hey y'all I don't believe I'm in the right place(if not can I please have some direction). Is there anyway to extract methadone from the red liquid into a form to be able to be insnuffulated?
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I don't know why you'd want to do this. Oral methadone is designed to be taken orally. Any other ROA isn't going to improve upon the effect.
 
Cheers thanks AW, yeah I know about redosing later but just wondered if topping up by 60 mg might just be enough taking to 360 Codiene only , I have diazepam to enhance a little , but just don't seem to be getting any kind of nod, there Zaplain 30/500 my cwe is Def fine .

Thanks for the answer I appreciate it :)
 
I?m still confused about how much water to use in the process. If I want to extract (6) 5/325 norcos, how much water should I use?
 
If you're just going to drink it or are practicing with your technique then 10ml should be more than enough.
 
Codiene princess said:
Cheers thanks AW, yeah I know about redosing later but just wondered if topping up by 60 mg might just be enough taking to 360 Codiene only , I have diazepam to enhance a little , but just don't seem to be getting any kind of nod, there Zaplain 30/500 my cwe is Def fine .

Thanks for the answer I appreciate it :)
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Your welcome :)

It's always a bit of a gamble with codeine as they recommend you don't immediately re-dose since it means that you pretty much have to get your dose right the first time and not short change your dose... however, if you go the other way and take to much the histamine release can be absolutely brutal.. I've never used codeine for many years but I can remember a few occasions sitting there with a hairbrush almost clawing the skin off my hands and feet with the histamine itching.
 
Yeah codeine can be pretty random(maybe it's because with CWE you get a different dose every time)

I almost never get an uncomfortable itch from it, but about a month ago I got a pretty strong histamine reaction. Usually it's barely noticeable, I can be high as shit and the slight itchiness is enjoyable if anything, but that time it was pretty crazy. The only thing different that time was that about 4 hours before dosing I ate some really sour apples. Didn't eat anything else, the dose wasn't too high, but the itchiness was wild. The effects weren't that strong either as far as sedation and euphoria go. The next time everything was back to normal.

Maybe sour fruits potentiate only certain effects? We all heard about eating grapefruits potentiating codeine, but from what I've gathered on the internet it doesn't affect your high in any noticeable way
 
What's wrong with using 50mL per dose? There is still only so much that can be in there without it being cloudy that is safe. I like 100mg / 50mL, solution always super clear. After being clean for a year that is enough when I actually require pain relief.

If I use any less water I run into problems that reduce the efficiency of the process.
 
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