The SEX ALLEGATIONS Megathread

[JGrimez]

Juanita Broaddrick Slams #MeToo: Bill Clinton Should Be Remembered As 'Rapist-in-Chief'
https://www.newsweek.com/juanita-broaddrick-metoo-bill-clinton-rape-1129200

Juanita Broaddrick laments that there is seemingly no room in the #MeToo movement for "Clinton survivors" after seeing the public's response to Christine Blasey Ford's allegations against Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh.

In an interview with The Daily Caller, Broaddrick said that the movement has left women like her behind and that there is now a "double standard" for how the media responds to allegations of sexual misconduct.

"I saw the media sit on my story and question my allegations. The media downgraded the most horrific event of my life," Broaddrick told the conservative news outlet. "?The #MeToo movement has never accepted the Clinton Survivors of the sexual assault."

Broaddrick has accused former President Bill Clinton of raping her in 1978 when he was running for governor of Arkansas. Broaddrick was a campaign volunteer when she says that Clinton insisted they have coffee in her hotel room and forcibly had sex with her. She claims that after the assault Clinton said to her, "You better get some ice for that."

Broaddrick told Newsweek in an email Wednesday that when she first came forward about the alleged attack in 1999, women?s rights groups and others effectively ?turned their backs? on her.

?Even now, a simple Twitter search reveals #MeToo advocates calling for the annihilation of Brett Kavanaugh while seemingly giving the Clintons a pass. Don't get me wrong: I think every claim of abuse deserves to be vetted. But let's start in chronological order,? Broaddrick said.

Juanita Broaddrick Made An EPIC Testimony Offer And It’s Quickly Going Viral
https://ilovemyfreedom.org/juanita-...-testimony-offer-and-its-quickly-going-viral/

On Wednesday night Juanita Broaddrick continued her Twitter storm against Bill and Hillary Clinton.

Broaddrick tweeted about the Christine Ford testimony, even offering to answer questions about the way Bill Clinton treated her in if Ford doesn’t want to talk about her accusations against Judge Brett Kavanuagh.

“Just a thought……If Christine Ford declines to be interviewed Monday…. I’m available to answer questions about my Rape by Bill Clinton.”

 

[cduggles]

This is going to be ignored because of tribal loyalties, but imo President Clinton engaged in behavior that was at best disgusting and inappropriate for a married man in his position of power. I'm not defending him.

However, I don't think wives like Secretary Clinton or the current First Lady Melania Trump are responsible for their husbands disgusting behavior. (Like paying off the women you cheated on your wife with just after she had your baby so they don't jeapordize your chances of winning an election. Stuff like that. Just because Melania is fairly useless and using chain migration so more Slovenians can jump that Wall, I don't judge her for the actions of her creepy, rapey husband who has 17 accusers of various types of sexual abuse.)

People are responsible for their own behavior.

And I don't understand why people need elaborate conspiracy theories about pervs.

And this is the #MeToo thread, not tinfoil hat I-hate-"liberal"-pedos thread.

 

[JGrimez]

And this is the #MeToo thread, not tinfoil hat I-hate-"liberal"-pedos thread.

Well this is news, and do you think Juanita Broaddrick is also part of #metoo? Is what she is saying "tinfoil"? She's very active on Twitter if you want to describe to her her story that way.
I'm not only attacking "liberal" pedos but there seem to be a disproportionate number of credible stories emanating from one certain side of the political spectrum.

I am the first to call out any reprehensible behavior. I would recognize the victims of Denis Hastert (Republican ex-Speaker of the House) if they wished to be heard (he was already convicted though), and I believe that Republican Governor Susana Martinez needs to be thoroughly investigated. I've since the beginning maintained that this is a bipartisan problem.

NJ police officer among 24 arrested on charges of luring underage children for sex

Twenty-four men, including a Howell Township police officer, have been arrested for allegedly using social media to try to arrange meetings with underage boys and girls for sexual activity, the Attorney General?s Office announced Tuesday.

Richard Conte, 47, a police sergeant in the Monmouth County town, was among a nurse, firefighter, DPW worker and others who traveled to a meet-up point expecting to find a 14- or 15-year-old boy or girl, Attorney General Gurbir Grewal said at a news conference.

 

[JGrimez]

BOMBSHELL: Ellison's Accuser Releases Medical Records Documenting Alleged Abuse; Reveals How Democrats Have Treated Her
https://www.dailywire.com/news/36084/bombshell-ellisons-accuser-releases-medical-ryan-saavedra

Karen Monahan, the woman who claims that Democratic Rep. Keith Ellison (MN) abused her while the two were in a relationship, released what appears to be medical records on Wednesday that show she told her physician in 2017 that Ellison had physically and emotionally abused her and that she was afraid to speak up because she feared retribution.
Monahan released a photo of her medical report from 11/28/2017 on a Twitter account identified by numerous media outlets as being her account.
"She states that she was in a very stressful environment for years, emotional and physical abuse by a partner with whom she is now separated," the report states. "She identifies the individual she was involved with as Congressman Ellison, and she is worried about retribution if she identifies him publicly."

In a separate tweet this week, Monahan slammed the Democratic Party for its hypocrisy after it has encouraged the nation to believe Judge Brett Kavanaugh's accuser but has refused to take her allegations seriously.

Democrats say believe women, do they believe you....

No, they don't. I've been smeared, threatened, isolated from my own party. I provided medical records from 2017, stating on two different Dr. Visits, I told them about the abuse and who did it. My therapist released records stating I have been dealing and healing from the abuse.

I didn't break my silence for validation or any outcome. I did it for my own internal freedom and to stand w/ other survivors. I have nothing to prove to anyone, I simply shared my story. People can believe it or not. I don't need anyone to affirm my humanity, I affirmed it.

 

[Escher's Waterfall]

And what about the 0.1% of the time?
How often would elite politicians be emailing each other back and forth about pizza before it becomes suspicious?

Did you seriously ask how many times a bunch of people who work late may email each other about pizza?

Crap, I think I've discussed pizza three to four times this week in our household, and we're just lazy.

 

[JGrimez]

^ I'll pose the question to you then, since nobody ever has been able to explain it...

If it's absurd then you should easily be able to offer a completely logical and sensible explanation.

What is a handkerchief with a pizza-related map on it, and why would it be important?

"cheese pizza" (CP) has been known pedophile slang for "Child Porn" for a long time already.
This shit didn't start with Pizzagate. So appealing to ridicule doesn't work: "they wouldn't be pedophiles, and they wouldn't use "pizza" is a codeword!" is not even close to an argument.

Elite pedophile rings exist.
Criminals use code to avoid detection.
Cheese pizza is code for child porn.

Those are facts, if you want to get into a detailed debate over Pizzagate I'm more than happy to, but this dismissive bullshit won't fly. At least do your research.

 

[JessFR]

My favorite thing about pizzagate, is that guy who actually got himself a rifle and stormed the actual Comet Ping Pong pizzaria in an attempt to "free" the sex slaves. After firing several shots that thankfully didn't hit anyone, and finding no sex slaves (obviously they've been moved since the truth was discovered), he surrendered to police.

But that's not the best part, no, the best, funniest part, is that AFTER this happened, the pizzagate conspiracy theorists started promoting a new conspiracy theory, suggesting that this guy was himself part of a conspiracy to discredit pizza gate supporters!

You couldn't make this shit up.

 

[alasdairm]

it's a false false flag!

alasdair

 

[JGrimez]

Yeah that dude was an actor with an IMDB page. Go check out what his punishment was for that super serious crime.
It was staged to alter the narrative because it was getting too much attention.

"You've been spreading this fake conspiracy theory and now someone went in there with a gun! Enough is enough!"

"Don't you see that conspiracy theories can KILL PEOPLE!?"

Whatever.

Again everyone dodges the important questions relating to the very real Pizzagate scandal - but then they'll stilll stupidly claim that it's been debunked!
(pro tip - you actually have to debunk something instead of just saying it's "debunked" to debunk it)

 

[swilow]

What if I was to say it isn't even worth debunking?

Anyway, this thread is about something more serious and real than pizzagate. Let's try and (broadly at least) stick to it.

 

[TheLoveBandit]

"cheese pizza" (CP) has been known pedophile slang for "Child Porn" for a long time already.


Cheese pizza is code for child porn.

I gotta be honest. Seeing that here is the first time in my near half century of EVER hearing that. Ever. Anywhere.

Maybe I just don't eat enough pizza (though I try), or do child porn (never do).

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Sorry, posted that and forgot swilow's request for focus on topic.

For HW specifically, it seems like Cosby in that too many are coming out with accusations, mostly repeating same situations and events as indicative of a repeat predator with a pattern. I've not hear anything in the news about him or the accusations in awhile. Are we any closer to actual charges and trials with him? Why has the story gone quiet?

 

[treezy z]

The original, Weinstein:

First off, I think he's scum, and their IS evidence he sexually assaulted people (the best of which is the tape with the model a few years back, that the NYPD filed away for whatever reason)

What are the majority of the allegations? He paid prostitutes ("actresses") very handsomely (millions), as is probably done by most "producers" throughout Hollywood history.

The main victims of this (besides a number of women I think he actually entered criminal territory with) are the women who DIDN'T get roles because they were actresses and not prostitutes. Corrupting the whole industry (because he is NOT the only one, I'm pretty damn sure.)

I keep hearing on the news "In the atmosphere of the pound me too movement, we must take these Kavanaugh allegations seriously."

The "atmosphere of the pound me too" movement is one in which trial by media without due process is the norm. It started with the kangaroo courts after the Obama "dear colleague" letter expelling men from college off a women's word without a chance to respond. Fuck the whole "movement",: despite a number of actual predators uncovered, a lot of men have been smeared with no evidence (or no crime like that Indian/Arab [sorry I forget his name, or I would use it instead of a guess at his ethnicity] comedian guy who ran bad game.)

If it had not been used so indiscriminately and was exclusive to guilty men with actual evidence, of course I'd get behind it.

The "pound me too movement" committed suicide this week.

 

[swilow]

Why are you calling it the 'pound me too movement'? Does it threaten you? I thought you were big and scary though.

 

[invegauser]

@swilow: you have seen that meme too

nice one btw.

@TLB: you don't wanna know what supreme with anchovies is code for.

@cduggles:

However, I don't think wives like Secretary Clinton or the current First Lady Melania Trump are responsible for their husbands disgusting behavior.

let's not forget we've seen miss trumps lady parts. only the president should have seen that imo. a certain dignity should be upheld that comes with the office of POTUS but i could be wrong.

OT: thoughts on harvey serving a term of life imprisonment?

 

[treezy z]

Is he sentenced to life? I'd rather see him offered a deal if he names names of every corrupt producer, director, prostitute ("actors and actresses") in Hollywood.

 

[cduggles]

^So all actors and actresses are prostitutes who make millions and should expect to get raped? Dude, that's just messed up. A small number make that much; in fact, few do. And rape isn't something anyone should "expect". Ever.

You seem to not care that women have their lives ruined by men like Harvey Weinstein, Roy Moore, and Brett Kavanaugh. (If Gorsuch could make it through without any problem, I'm thinking the problem is perhaps Kavanaugh himself?).

I'm happy you're open about your views though. They disgust me, but at least I know what they are.
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I've been surprised at and pleased with the communication I've had with women from every generation in several countries about #MeToo, #TimesUp and #WhyIDidntReport. It's inspiring that a dialogue has begun to counteract how depressing and ignorant many people are.

Tbc, not all women agree on everything but I definitely have been shocked that the older and one might think conservative women are some of the most progressive about ending sexual abuse across the board. Then it seems obvious because they have experienced the worst abuses with no voice.

The best part is that these conversations were just spontaneous and not part of anything structured. It's heartening while dealing with the ignorance and defensiveness of men who either don't engage in this behavior but believe they are now just a few words away from being destroyed by some woman, or who are just idiots, like Trump, and who probably engage in this behavior or condone it in others.

@invegauser: Unfortunately Melania Trump is probably the Trump family member with the most class. It's sad.

 

[TheLoveBandit]

thoughts on harvey serving a term of life imprisonment?

Is he sentenced to life? I'd rather see him offered a deal if he names names of every corrupt producer, director, prostitute ("actors and actresses") in Hollywood.

Has he even gone to trial yet? Personally, I'd be in favor of extremely harsh sentencing...but a CEP discussion on 'where do you draw the line, and what do you feel is appropriate' is a topic I'm still contemplating how to throw into the general forum discussion.

Would he try to plea deal out by naming names? Likely. Very likely. And while I'd love to see it bring down anyone else who is corrupt in this manner, or supporting it; I'd be very disheartened at Weinstein dodging any of the accountability he has in this matter.

 

[treezy z]

Has he even gone to trial yet? Personally, I'd be in favor of extremely harsh sentencing...but a CEP discussion on 'where do you draw the line, and what do you feel is appropriate' is a topic I'm still contemplating how to throw into the general forum discussion.

Would he try to plea deal out by naming names? Likely. Very likely. And while I'd love to see it bring down anyone else who is corrupt in this manner, or supporting it; I'd be very disheartened at Weinstein dodging any of the accountability he has in this matter.

It sounds like there are a few legit sexual assaults he should certainly go to jail for (he was caught on tape groping a model, unless the audio is the opposite of what it sounds like, said tape buried by NYPD.)

But I would prefer them to make him a plea deal, that includes jail, for pointing the finger.

 

[treezy z]

^So all actors and actresses are prostitutes who make millions and should expect to get raped? Dude, that's just messed up. A small number make that much; in fact, few do. And rape isn't something anyone should "expect". Ever.

You seem to not care that women have their lives ruined by men like Harvey Weinstein, Roy Moore, and Brett Kavanaugh. (If Gorsuch could make it through without any problem, I'm thinking the problem is perhaps Kavanaugh himself?).

I'm happy you're open about your views though. They disgust me, but at least I know what they are.
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I've been surprised at and pleased with the communication I've had with women from every generation in several countries about #MeToo, #TimesUp and #WhyIDidntReport. It's inspiring that a dialogue has begun to counteract how depressing and ignorant many people are.

Not all the women who have made allegations against Weinstein are prostitutes, but many had consensual sex with him for cash and prizes. Look at how poor actors and actresses performances are now compared to past decades, there are few with much "star power" because the deal was "suck off so and so (probably almost all producers, many directors) you are signed."

There are several serious allegations against Weinstein beyond being a high level john.

Roy Moore allegations disappeared immediately after he lost his election. Completely.

Kavanaugh has not been shown to have done anything wrong sexually, ever.

And since you are slandering Kavanaugh with no proof, you are a fantastic representative of (pound)metoo. The whole point of the movement is things like the Kavanaugh hearing, point the finger and the person you point at is on the cover of every paper, usually without any basic investigation.

 

[Xorkoth]

The metoo movement is very important and it's being used for good by most. Sexual assault, it turns out, is extremely commonplace and there are many reasons why victims often don't report it. The movement not only empowers people to report sexual abuses of the past, it also empowers people to stop feeling ashamed for what someone else did to violate them.

However, as with anything, I have absolutely no doubt that people are capitalizing on the social environment from metoo in order to manipulate others, get revenge, etc. In fact recently a friend of mine's little brother turned down sex from his friend's sister at a party (she's a nutcase by the way). The next day she started telling everyone that he raped her, I guess because her feelings were hurt. No conviction happened because there was no proof, but it absolutely fucked his life, it was like he was guilty until proven innocent.

So, as much as I think metoo is a good thing, and I think it's a net positive, there is also something unfortunate going on along with it.

Not all the women who have made allegations against Weinstein are prostitutes, but many had consensual sex with him for cash and prizes. Look at how poor actors and actresses performances are now compared to past decades, there are few with much "star power" because the deal was "suck off so and so (probably almost all producers, many directors) you are signed."

Although there is certainly an (important) distinction here, sex by coersion is still sexual misconduct.