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This has been an amazing week for Trump!
Supreme Court Travel ban...winning!
Sanctuary City Ban...winning!
Kate's law...winning!
Russian Connection Scam News Being Exposed For the Total Bullshit it Always Was...winning!

CNN being reduced to dusting off a pedo puppeteer, who resigned a children's show amidst pedo accusations, to discuss refugees to adults LMFAO!!!!!!!
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WINNING!

 
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Ok, tell us why you think that's good
Free trade does not equal fair trade. Bilateral trade deals between states are far more beneficial. The TPP was going to cost millions of American jobs, lower wages for American workers and give undue influence to globalist corporations who often hold no allegiance or loyalty to any state and its populace. Even Bernie Sanders and Democrats applauded this move.

I think he just watched the Taken movies. Do you have specifics to your "going after"?
Trump has pledged his desire to combat human trafficking. Obama claimed to do the same thing but trafficking busts were not substantial during his term and the anti-trafficking legislation he introduced was a joke, it stated that the minimum punishment for child traffickers was a $5,000 fine. Seriously?
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/06/27/ivanka-trump-human-trafficking-priority-240005 We've seen thousands of arrests so far since Trump came into office.

How is he investigating "electoral fraud?" Going to California to count all the illegal Mexican voters he says was the reason Clinton defeated him? Sorry for the tone, but this sounds copypasta from whitehouse.gov or something.
https://www.rawstory.com/2017/06/trump-and-pence-laying-the-groundwork-for-voter-suppression-with-new-election-integrity-commission-report/
Some do not believe that Clinton won the popular vote, or that the voting was conducted fairly. Investigating this will strengthen the integrity of the US elections and hopefully restore faith in the process. It also says a lot that Trump won yet is still investigating it. The states that are resisting it are the suspicious ones that need to be thoroughly investigated. My prediction is that Trump actually won the popular vote in a landslide, time will tell on this issue.

What promise has he fulfilled? Or OK, which is he "working hard" on?
Stop listening to only the Liberal media. They're not going to give you the full story or report objectively http://imgur.com/a/V2jeL

Because it's all utter bullshit political theater. Yeah, they need some overhaul and I don't like the idea of private servers for the State Dept.
But every politician grilling her actively avoids saving stuff on the public servers. Colin Powell, her predecessor, urged her to keep the private serverHE had installed in the residence.So she kept an email address and used it. And a nation lost it's shit for a few months.

Wow you're simply being disingenuous here. It is not illegal for an official to have a private email address, but it is illegal to consciously set up a private email server to conduct government business through. This circumvents congressional oversight and FOIA laws. I don't know care who else had a private email address, what she did was highly illegal and anyone else caught would've gone to prison. "But other people do it too!" is not an excuse, is not evidence and anyone suspected of doing this type of shit needs to be investigated and charged also.

You talking about the totally above board uranium rights deal with a single Russian company, still? And you must have SOME sense of irony, right?
Why was this above board? If Trump was caught doing this would you be OK with it? Podesta lobbying on behalf of the Russian government, receiving a billion rubles, Clinton/Obama signing off on a deal giving 20% of US uranium to Russia, and Bill Clinton receiving $500K for a speech from an investment bank with direct ties to the Kremlin? Is all that perfectly OK but Trump allegedly colluding with the Russians (without any evidence at all) sets off warning bells? I am curious as to how one can justify this. For the record I have no problem with doing legal business with foreign states as it can improve diplomatic relations and reduce the chances of military conflict, but goddamn, let's hold all of our elected officials to the same standards, shall we?

Can you please share with the class the moment she literally gave classified info to "foreign adversary" (see, it used to say "Russia" here, but that doesn't work so well any more). https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/07/us/hillary-clintons-email-was-probably-hacked-experts-say.html Anyone being honest with themselves knows that her server was hacked. Except it probably was not only Russia but also China, Iran, NK. She put above-top secret intelligence on an unsecured private server when that type of intel must only be stored on secured government networks. This is what we called evidence of a crime.

It was improper of her to meet Bill. Can you at least hint at what these crimes are? Glad we agree on something. Possible obstruction of justice and conspiracy. They all know they should not have been meeting while Hillary was under investigation.

How is it "obviously" a lie?
Because Hillary Clinton is a career politician. She was first-lady and then Secretary of State. She definitely knew what she was doing was wrong, and if she didn't then she should definitely not have ever been given a security clearance. This is fucking serious and some people are dumb enough to believe James Comey when he said that she showed "no intent" to commit these crimes. This is probably the most obviously blatant cover-up that I have ever witnessed.

Also this is not over. If Clinton won she might have gotten away with it, but since she didn't the investigations will continue and hopefully guilty parties will be brought to justice in the name of protecting national security.

Yes I want evidence. The fuck does "matter" mean? During Comey's most recent testimony (that was supposed to have sunk Trump) he stated that Loretta Lynch asked him to refer to the ongoing FBI investigation into Clinton as a "matter" instead of an investigation. This is evidence of obstruction of justice and collusion between Lynch and the Clintons, otherwise why would she ask that of Comey?

The Democrats going after Trump is beginning to backfire, and they are now getting exposed and investigated for their own nefarious acts. So I actually welcome these investigations and hearings as I have a pretty solid idea as to who is actually guilty of crimes here.
 
Globally, I think Trump is absorbing so much media time, I think politicians are all struggling to be heard even in their own country.

What do you think Abbott is doing? I think he's either aiming for Turnbulls job (again) or is about to break away into some Trumpesque populist party of his own.

I don't know - i think he's an undisciplined, sad little man. It's a common thread with a lot of these hateful right wingers. They have nothing positive to contribute to society or political debate.

Just ego, hate and division. I try not to pay too much attention to them. I'd much rather work in the opposite direction and build bridges socially and culturally.
I loathe bigotry.

As for good things about donald trump?
He'll be dead soon. That's it.
 
^^Trump would be replaced by Mike Pence and Paul Ryan, both whom know how government works. So he has to live like maybe 2 years, 3.5 tops.
How scary is it that I want Trump in office for a bit?
 
Anyone being honest with themselves knows that her server was hacked. Except it probably was not only Russia but also China, Iran, NK. She put above-top secret intelligence on an unsecured private server when that type of intel must only be stored on secured government networks. This is what we called evidence of a crime.

Oh but y'know it was just Yoga and wedding stuff for Chelsea.....if top secret intel ended up mixed up well then hey.....honest mistake by an idiot who couldn't identify what the marking ("C") stood for....I mean she apologized.

I wish all I had to do was apologize instead of mandatory sentencing when I was found in possession of of an emergency scheduled drug.
 
Ok, tell us why you think that's good
Free trade does not equal fair trade. Bilateral trade deals between states are far more beneficial. The TPP was going to cost millions of American jobs, lower wages for American workers and give undue influence to globalist corporations who often hold no allegiance or loyalty to any state and its populace. Even Bernie Sanders and Democrats applauded this move.

As much as I had problems with the TPP, I have to admit it's failure is one heck of an opportunity for China, and one that will probably make America's position in the world weaker than it otherwise would have been.

We're not going to see bilateral trade deals between the other TPP nations and the US. Instead, if we're unlucky, we'll see a different trade agreement get written, one we didn't help to write. That's going to be the trade agreement the US decides it'll either have to join, as-is, or have a competitive disadvantage.
 
If you can't see that he used prejudice to get elected, i'm not going to explain it to you.
You've already demonstated a great deal of cogntive dissonance on this issue.

I'm not going to waste my time responding to abuse from fucking trump supporters
 
You make a claim yet cannot back it up with any proof. Standard from the Trump-haters.

He criticized illegal immigrants and you will probably classify this as racism.

Apparently he's sexist yet his companies had one the highest numbers of women in executive positions. Women sometimes made more than men who were employed in similar positions as he rewarded his employees based on merit and not sex.

If you think everyone who voted for Trump was racist then why didn't Romney beat Obama? You cannot justify you stance with any coherent argument (in fact no argument at all).
 
Free trade
A legit debate, too long for a shitpost thread.

Trump has pledged his desire to combat human trafficking.
That's not an actual action. Your evidence was some story on Obama.

Some do not believe that Clinton won the popular vote,
Then there's a genuine reality difference that makes debate difficult.

or that the voting was conducted fairly.
Da, comrade, there's some suspicion there, not quite the way you mean though.

Stop listening to only the Liberal media.
Hon, I stopped listening to all media a few months ago, incidentally the last time these talking points were written (from February, TPP? Electoral fraud? All this swept away as the FBI investigates him for treason.

Wow you're simply being disingenuous here.
If I am, then you agree we need to lock up Colin Powell. Say it. Under espionage act blah blah sentenced to death just like KILary.

The uranium mine AM Radio talking points again, pre-election, debunked loooong ago.

knows that her server was hacked. Except it probably was not only Russia
(nice guys, right?) Again, we're talking about YOUR guy.

Possible obstruction of justice and conspiracy.
Still not your guy, still not evidence of anything.

How is it "obviously" a lie?
Because Hillary Clinton is a career politician.

And by the transitive property, that means all your politicians are also . . .

"matter" instead of an investigation. This is evidence of obstruction of justice and collusion
I guess that's the standard of "evidence" for the right. She used the "wrong" word somewhere somehow once.

The Democrats going after Trump is beginning to backfire, and they are now getting exposed and investigated for their own nefarious acts.
Wow. EJECT!!
 
You make a claim yet cannot back it up with any proof. Standard from the Trump-haters.
What the racist stuff? That's public record from back when he wouldn't rent to "coloreds". You know, when he went to court over it.

He criticized illegal immigrants and you will probably classify this as racism.
"They're not bringing their best. Rapists and . . . " And the crowd chanted and any one with a tan slowly went to the exit.

Apparently he's sexist
"Grab em by the pussy"

yet his companies had one the highest numbers of women in executive positions.
You know he doesn't have companies, right? I mean, he has a thousand paper ones. He's a real estate guy. They're not public, no board of directors. He bought buildings and rented them out. He failed horrifically at this, bailed out by inane tax laws and a great accountant. SO he just started licensing his name to buildings. So he doesn't even own a lot of them, he just rents his name. The TV show finally got him some money. His kids run his "business", even now in the WH.

Women sometimes made more than men who were employed in similar positions as he rewarded his employees based on merit and not sex.
Oh, Ivanka, you really do deserve to make more than Don Jr.


If you think everyone who voted for Trump was racist then why didn't Romney beat Obama?
It's a bad argument, sure, but are you sure you want to challenge it with this one? Another case of a 3million vote difference, that time in the right states.

You cannot justify you stance with any coherent argument (in fact no argument at all).
Pot and kettle, mEeeow.
 
Nicely put.

That and so many lies I can't even count anymore. "I have taped Comey. Then 'oh that was not true'" I was just trying to see how he would behave talking about me, something like that... Isn't that illegal?

Also, false comments about 'Sweden's last night' talking about something inaccurate that did not happen at all when he was talking about it. "What's happening to Sweden?"
Greater crowd size ever in a president inauguration, this is too old but the first real one, hours after being president. And more, more, more...
 
^^Sadly, it's not. Trump ordered an investigation of park services to make sure they weren't Obama-lovers who had a copy of Photoshop and a failed graphic designer somewhere to downsize his crowds.
The investigation concluded that the images were accurate and that President George W. Bush did indeed say "That was some weird sh**."
 
Indeed. The images were accurate and it was not the most crowd ever.
Impressive how the alternative fact was presented so soon, and so strange seeing someone reading word by word something that the president has told Spicer to inform and to dodge questions or respond to Fox like they were indulging him. This is so sad, it's a never ending tail. Will that ever end? Do you think he has any chances of being removed from office??

I'm watching CNN but also enjoy the sense of humor of John Oliver in 'Last week tonight'. I really enjoy the way he presents some of the news about Trump as well as other issues like vaccines for instance, a subject that Trump himself has also made inaccurate comments. I believe that watching news like that can be quite therapeutic for some people.
 
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^Yes, Last Week Tonight and Steven Colbert, Seth Meyers and Trevor Noah are necessary staples for sanity.

I will miss Sean Spicer, although the press briefings are so weird now with audio-only, no cameras, no audio. He did look very stressed, like heart attack stressed. Melissa McCarthy was so good on SNL as "Spicey".

As I've mentioned elsewhere, Trump is not only ineffective, he's a complete distraction to Congress. And Mike Pence would be our president with Paul Ryan, the architect of the currently proposed healthcare legislation, as VP. They might actually get things done. So as bizarre as it seems, I'm sticking with Trump at least until midterms and he'll become a lame duck and have rallies and sell hats or play golf or whatever.

If the Republicans don't pass this legislation, their entire cut healthcare to poor and elderly/tax legislation to give rich people tax cuts breaks down. However, I don't underestimate Mitch McConnell, Senate Majority Leader.

America waits...
 
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