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I think Canada has universal health care as well as Sweden, Norway.
IMHO I believe it should also be available in US. But it's a complicated issue as we all know.
 
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You know what isn't funny? That wealthcare (© cduggles) bill.

(To my knowledge, I made that term up, unlike "priming the pump". I will believe this until I google it and hopefully thereafter).

Oh and reading about someone being snide about it. Guess what? We didn't all vote for Trump- he didn't win the popular vote so most of us didn't, and this isn't about him.

It's about millions of people losing their healthcare. How amusing. :\
 
^^It's common knowledge.
Apparently the weed isn't all that great either. That must suck.

OT: Looks like the Congressional legislative docket includes the looming budget deadline, healthcare reform (maybe), tax restructuring legislation (maybe), and infrastructure (unlikely).

This train wreck of a backup with a Republican president and control of both houses of Congress.

I wonder if the Republican Congressional members are going back to their respective fiefdoms for the July 4th break, you know, to be among their constituents. I'm guessing incognito, with armed security, or somewhere else.

You know it's bad when Congress is considering working through a break, their August break to be specific. These people went home when the government shut down. Not an auspicious sign.
 
Wow. I'd be offended if I were Time. "The Apprentice is a Television Smash!" sounds more like a People cover.
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I can only hope the guy that was not paid to fake this tried to warn us with the "A New Age of Extinction" blurb.
 
For the record, THIS is the real Time MOTY Cover:

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I think the editors have a different opinion of him than he realizes.

ETA: fuck they got the feeling right. Ominous and he's even sneering.
 
Is America as divided as it looks? Last time I was there people 'in general' weren't speaking that much about politics. There were plenty of other different subjects.

It was during a harsh winter in the Northeast and CNN would go on and on talking about historic low temperatures, closed airports. I remember having coffee in places and not once hearing people talking about the president. I don't think this is the case now. Oh well.
 
I don't really discuss it with my coworkers but I end up talking about it with my girlfriend and friends frequently it seems. I believe in a separation of the work self and the after work self.

It's hard to ignore it though.
 
I know. This is also happening in most countries now. It's incredibly how this man is affecting people all over the place. Not in a good way though. :\
 
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^^It's common knowledge.
Apparently the weed isn't all that great either. That must suck.
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Not wishing to go too far off topic, but i'm not sure where you heard that? There's plenty of good weed in Australia, and there has been for a long time.
I'm not patriotic or anything (far from it) so it's not a matter of pride or anything, but i've been smoking good weed for 20 years.
Does it stack up to the current US quality? Probably not, but i doubt anywhere does, currently, as it's not legal here.

Heroin is really expensive in Australia, but it's some of the most refined (SE Asian) dope on the planet.
It's certainly a very expensive drug market here, but that is partly geographical (in the case of cocaine, for instance) and technical, based upon the fact that we live on a bloody huge island that is largely uninhabited and inhospitable.

Australian society (and things like minimum wage) are a lot different to the USA though, so price comparisons are not clearly analogous - like (as i just read in another thread) a job at mcdonalds over here will pay something like $18/hr.
So massive price discrepancies in certain things (drugs, food or consumer goods) are not as clear-cut as they may seem at first glance.
Some things cost a lot more here, but we get paid more so it tends to balance out a bit.
On the other hand, if i walked out my front door into the street and had a life-threatening accident (or got cancer or something along those lines) my only primary concern would be getting better.

A trip to the emergency department, or a course of chemotherapy over here won't leave working (or middle) class people in financial ruin or bankruptcy in the same way it can for people in the states.
I spent 3 weeks in hospital a few years back, and it didn't cost me a cent; and no, i'm not insured.
Healthcare isn't free - we all pay for it our whole lives - but it is something i value about the country i was born in.
For all australia's faults, shortcomings and shittiness, i personally do really value our health system.

It's not that is perfect - it's merely that it's not like the shambolic mess that the US system is. And i don't mean that as a put-down; i have close friends and immediate family that live in the states, and it simply freaks me out that a wealthy country can treat its citizens so badly.
It's a shame trump only wants to make that system - and the massive wealth inequities that workers in the united states are burdened with - worse and more polarised.

Foe a country armed to the teeth to (supposedly) ward off tyranny, it's sadly ironic how easily a tyrant of trump's nature can simply be voted into power.
He's a twisted man leading an unprecedentedly toxic administration, which even by american standards, is unbelievably inequitable.

I really feel sorry for my friends and loved ones in the USA at the moment. Australia has its problems, but we still have remnants of the myth of egalitarianism that drove this country for a long time.

It's depressing to know that statesiders are denied medical treatment if they don't have the money to pay for it.
As a non-american, it's hard to explain how fucked up that is to the rest of the developed world.
You guys need to demand more of your government. It's a testament to trump's powers of persuasion that he could convince so many people to vote so directly against their own interests.

The amazing power of prejudice, scapegoating and dog-whistle politics. Prejudice and corrupt authoritarian governments so often seem to go hand-in-hand.
Funny that :\
 
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