Bareback sex the ultimate experience for guys???

[Boku_]

What's your thoughts guys? Is vaginal intercourse without a condom the holy grail for men? Could you say the main reason for men seeking long term monogamous relationships with women is to have sex bareback either with the girl not on the pill to have kids or on the pill to not conceive a child but enjoy sex?

I personally have had bareback sex a couple of times in my late teen years but for most of my sexual encounters i have worn a condom because frankly i was having sex with sex workers and that was the done thing. I'm slightly socially retarded so i haven't had many chances for sex without a condom. i don't want to go into the reasons i am not willing to attempt to form a long term relationship where sex without a condom may happen but it largely comes down to not wanting to date a ugly girl in my league.

The not wanting to have sex with a girl that is not attractive leads to another point i wish to discuss. I went to a religious school and one of the teachers who taught me came out to a mental health ward i was being treated in during my early 20's after having a psychosis and he told me the whole reason unattractive men formed long term relationships with girls that were unattractive was that eventually the man in the relationship would get to enjoy sex bareback and that was far better than any paid sex experience with a sex worker.

Another point that sits in my mind was when a Japanese guy i was staying in a youth hostel with while holidaying overseas told me to a lot of Japanese guys sex with a condom is that unenjoyable and lacks that much sensation that sex with a condom is not worth having. This conversation was almost 20 years ago and i am not sure about attitudes in Japan these days but this Japanese guy also told me Japanese couples only have sex when they are trying to conceive a child. I find these two attitudes rather narrow minded and far too conservative for the 21st century. But hey each to their own.

I'm not advocating for guys having casual sex both paid and for free to skip wearing a condom but to guys who are in long term monogamous relationships how much do you rate getting sex bareback to make the relationship worth it?

 

[elvis_wears_nikes]

I know when you are 'in the heat of the moment' using a condom can disrupt the process and make things slightly less enjoyable... If you are with a sex worker then your risks are high as they are more likely to have had more sexual partners so I would never advocate bearback sex on that occasion. If I was with someone long-term then I would want to know that either 100% we were both clean or I would personally get tested together... I would definitely not risk the moment of pleasure for potentially life-long infections such as HPV, herpes or HIV if I had the where-with-all to make that decision. Yes using a condom can reduce sensation and ultimately pleasure but there are slightly more 'realistic' feeling condoms on the market. There is nothing sexy about an STI fella!

 

[Durzo1258]

If you're using sex workers who allow no condom sex you should re consider your life choices.

 

[Mysterie]

i relate to the struggle as i am also my own worst social enemy.

what i see though, is your mindset on "ugly girls" and "league's", is to me something that is not going to help you attract women.

its a cliche but i'll say it, don't get hung up on your looks, someone with distinct facial features which don't fit the mainstream standard of beauty who is smiling, is to me much more beautiful than a model with a frown.

 

[Xorkoth]

Yeah sex without a condom is certainly better by a substantial margin. But it's not worth the risk of diseases in a situation where you don't know if the person has them or not, and it's not worth having a baby either if you're not looking to have one.

For most of my adult life I was with one person, we got married eventually, we were together for 12 years. She was so paranoid about getting pregnant (and about stuff in general) that even though she was on the pill she still insisted we use a condom every time. Then she went off birth control and towards the end of our relationship we started having sex without condoms, it's a miracle she never got pregnant (that would have been bad as she has basically descended into mental illness and she's quite emotionally abusive).

My girlfriend now I've been with for over 2.5 years. We used condoms for the first year and a half. I got used to it again, it certainly doesn't prevent me from enjoying sex a lot. But then she started studying the rhythm method (because hormonal birth control is a bad idea IMO, I have seen it really fuck with various women), tracking her precise ovulation cycle, and now we have unprotected sex about half the month. Condoms the other times. It's been about a year, no pregnancies. It makes me nervous once in a while, although if she did get pregnant and she decided she didn't want an abortion (it would be for her to decide), I know we'd both be great parents and we're in a place where we could provide a good life for a child. Neither of us is sure we ever want kids though. In any case, sex without condoms is better enough (for both of us) that we're both willing to take the risk. It actually is quite possible to have a very low chance of pregnancy without any contraception or birth control if you pay attention to the cycle and understand at what points it's very unlikely to cause a pregnancy.

I do actually have a couple of friends who say they don't even want to have sex if they have to use a condom, which to me is ridiculous. Yeah it's definitely less good, but it's still good either way! One of my friends is in a committed relationship now, and he got tested when entering into it, but he said he hasn't used a condom since he was a teenager, and he was having random sexual encounters pretty frequently whenever he was single. Kinda blows my mind he hasn't gotten an STD.

its a cliche but i'll say it, don't get hung up on your looks, someone with distinct facial features which don't fit the mainstream standard of beauty who is smiling, is to me much more beautiful than a model with a frown.

Totally agreed. When I first met my girl, I wasn't sure if I was into her because some aspects of her face didn't match my idea of what I was attracted to. Even though no one would deny that her body is really nice, it was actually kind of an issue for me for a while, but now I truly think she's beautiful, the stuff that used to bother me I now love and wouldn't want to change. Personality and energetic attraction are so much more important than looks. I mean you have to be physically attracted to them but sometimes people are too judgmental about "imperfections". I know my cousin will only date people who are "a perfect 10" (in his eyes), they have to have perfect makeup, perfect clothes, and basically look fake. The result of this is that he constantly chases the wrong people and always ends up in bad relationships because he's basing his choices on the wrong things.

 

[bomber]

Im tottaly ok with condoms. Sex without it would be slitly better, but still that's not why I would get into a long monogamic relationship, if I did.

 

[Scrofula]

Harm reduction, wrap that wiener up kids! And forget the diseases, like the new antibiotic-resistant gonorrhea, or incurable syphilis, you don't want BABIES.

Never mind that the vagina's very purpose, it's entire reason for being, is to cradle a penis so lovingly it orgasms its haploid lunch all over, as quickly as possible.

 

[Boku_]

Thanks for the replies guys, it's interesting reading and pretty much the reaction i was expecting to get.

If you're using sex workers who allow no condom sex you should re consider your life choices.

I completely agree with that statement Durzo. Thankfully where i live sex work is tolerated, legal and regulated. The sex workers are medically tested every three months and stimga around doing sex work and getting STI tested isn't as high as other countries. I personally like to be responsible and see my local medical clinic for a STI test every three months and so far all good i am clean.

I am also fairly active on a Australian sex worker/escort review forum online and i have never heard of any other punters picking anything up from using the services of Australian based working girls.

Punters may joke about it online but i have never heard of a Aussie working girl providing bareback Full service. I am not saying everything is perfect here in Oz because often some girls will do bareback oral sex and even myself who has a clean record are guilty of getting a blow job without a condom off regular girls but the chances of transmitting the HIV virus by blow job is almost impossible if not completely impossible. If it was possible to get the HIV virus from oral sex the rate of HIV in Australia would be astronomical. Most of the punters on the online forum would be dead or dying from HIV if that was possible. I know STIs can be easily transmitted with bareback oral sex but pretty much all the sex workers providing bareback oral know the tell tale signs and symptoms to look out for before sucking a guys cock. Worst case scenario they're are treatment options available.

As i said i get tested regularly and i believe both me and sex worker know the risks of such behaviour. To be honest bareback oral isn't that common overall as most of the cheaper per hour sex workers don't offer it. Interestingly the most common demographic of sex workers that openly advertise bbbj are the high end private escorts that charge $500 to $700 an hour. Don't believe me google private escorts in NSW Australia.

The other group of sex workers that would offer bbbj would be the fly in fly out migrant Chinese/Korean sex workers but plenty don't offer this service and still make good money.

There are legal brothels for all levels of budgets. Compared to the street scenes of the US and some less liberal European countries paying for sexual services is a lot safer and cleaner in places where it is legal and regulated. Issues like exploitation and human trafficking of women forced into prostitution are way more common in areas where prostitution is illegal. Australia isn't perfect but we don't have pimps like US cities or rampant out break of STIs like India or other parts of Asia.

Lots of more progressive countries have legal sex industries like Germany, Holland, Singapore and New Zealand. Sure the US has Nevada but that's one state out of 50 and only a small area of that state where it is legal. In the rest of the US punters have to drive around in their cars to get sexual services and run the risk of law enforcement or getting robbed or assaulted by the pimps. You can probably see the similarities to being a drug user in American cities. Not to mention the risks to the actual sex workers. Making it illegal and having vice police squads is just like the war on drugs, it's simply insane and wrong for so many reasons.

I could go on but as you could guess i much prefer the punting experience in Australia.

 

[Boku_]

as for getting a partner for a proper relationship maybe in my 50s i'll become less shallow. But who really knows. Plenty of women would surely consider marriage for Australian citizenship.

Interestingly a lot of the guys on the internet forum that discuss the sex workers and Brothels in Australia actually are in long term relationships and married with the opportunity to have bareback vaginal intercourse with their wives but these particular married men crave covered sex with working girls. Something to do with their wives going off sex or the woman's vagina stretching with age and losing tightness after child birth.

Maybe getting into a relationship that is beneficial for both the husband and wife financially and personally is one thing, as in having two incomes to raise children while investing in property and growing wealth together. Not to mention looking after each other and having a soul mate in old age. But equally as challenging to stay loyal in a relationship while making the home living situation work.

I guess if your a guy in a relationship having sex bareback enjoy it while you can, i wonder how many relationships work simply because the man gets over sex and the couple past middle age come to an agreement their will have a asexual sexless relationship. I live with my Mum and step dad and i am certain they are not sexual active seeing as i live at home and they are both 69 years old. Not that i think about such things a lot but i do come from a family that is a long term success. i call my step dad dad and he has been around since i was a little kid so my home life is quite stable. I do have mental health issues but i have meet schizo's over the years who have partners.

 

[-=SS=-]

Harm reduction, wrap that wiener up kids! And forget the diseases, like the new antibiotic-resistant gonorrhea, or incurable syphilis, you don't want BABIES..

To be honest I think I'd rather have a baby than antibiotic-resistant gonorrhea.

Obviously bareback increases the pleasurable sensation, which is great, but I love the greater intimacy more than that. Skin on skin contact, I'm sure there's some kind of chemical or electrical exchange taking place, which obviously a condom prevents from happening. For me it's all about the intimacy and connection, and whilst a condom doesn't prevent 95%+ of that experience it's always great to have that added little extra too by going bareback. But if you don't know the person well enough then condom all the way - though being honest I've been stupid and not applied that myself.. still clean and childless thankfully.. both parties were young and stupid at the time.

For sex workers, wrap that shit up. I wouldn't even think twice about it.

 

[Xorkoth]

Lots of more progressive countries have legal sex industries like Germany, Holland, Singapore and New Zealand. Sure the US has Nevada but that's one state out of 50 and only a small area of that state where it is legal. In the rest of the US punters have to drive around in their cars to get sexual services and run the risk of law enforcement or getting robbed or assaulted by the pimps. You can probably see the similarities to being a drug user in American cities. Not to mention the risks to the actual sex workers. Making it illegal and having vice police squads is just like the war on drugs, it's simply insane and wrong for so many reasons.

I could go on but as you could guess i much prefer the punting experience in Australia.

Totally agreed, people should be able to buy and sell sex if they want to. Making it illegal doesn't stop it, just like you can't stop drugs with a "war on drugs". You can't fight a war against a concept or a desire. Making it illegal makes it way less safe for everyone involved and it causes many women to be abused. So much more civilized to legalize and regulate it. I've never paid for sex, but I don't have any moral issue with it as long as both parties are happy about it. If a woman (or man) wants to sell their sex for money, well, some people want to buy that, if everyone is being protected by laws and oversight and attention to health, I fail to see the issue.

I guess if your a guy in a relationship having sex bareback enjoy it while you can, i wonder how many relationships work simply because the man gets over sex and the couple past middle age come to an agreement their will have a asexual sexless relationship. I live with my Mum and step dad and i am certain they are not sexual active seeing as i live at home and they are both 69 years old. Not that i think about such things a lot but i do come from a family that is a long term success. i call my step dad dad and he has been around since i was a little kid so my home life is quite stable. I do have mental health issues but i have meet schizo's over the years who have partners.

I think that people naturally feel less sexual desire and drive as they age, but I know couples older than their 50s who still have a sex life. I just think that most people get into relationships that don't really work for them, and if they stay in them, resentments build until the romance has been destroyed, and the reasons for staying together are different than they were when there was a romance. But not all relationships go that route. I love seeing older people still affectionate and into each other. I love seeing parents who still maintain their romance too. It seems like the pressures of life and of sharing a life that intimately with someone destroys a lot of relationships, but it's not always the case.

Obviously bareback increases the pleasurable sensation, which is great, but I love the greater intimacy more than that. Skin on skin contact, I'm sure there's some kind of chemical or electrical exchange taking place, which obviously a condom prevents from happening. For me it's all about the intimacy and connection, and whilst a condom doesn't prevent 95%+ of that experience it's always great to have that added little extra too by going bareback.

Totally agreed. It's definitely another level of intimate.

 

[Scrofula]

Boku said: "In the rest of the US punters have to drive around in their cars to get sexual services and run the risk of law enforcement or getting robbed or assaulted by the pimps

You've heard of craigslist, right? And about a dozen others?

It's honestly the only thing keeping me going, I think. Oh, I don't use it, just read the personals in my hometown and know that if I wanted shady dude ass right this second, for free, I could. This brings me a certain peace.

 

[Durzo1258]

But then she started studying the rhythm method tracking her precise ovulation cycle, and now we have unprotected sex about half the month.

Ah, the so called Vatican roulette. A lot of beautiful babies are born each year because of it.

 

[Xorkoth]

Haha, I like that, never heard that term before. Yeah I guess so. Oh well I'm 34 years old, not sure I want any kids and not sure I don't want any. I often feel like if I got to the end of life and never had any children, I'd regret it, it's such a fundamental underlying reason for life itself. I just can't see myself making the decision on purpose, because I really like my life and I get to focus on doing cool stuff like playing music and basically do anything I want. I don't really expect to stop feeling that way. Except maybe when I'm old and my friends start dying and I find myself wishing I had a family.

 

[Boku_]

Obviously bareback increases the pleasurable sensation, which is great, but I love the greater intimacy more than that. Skin on skin contact, I'm sure there's some kind of chemical or electrical exchange taking place, which obviously a condom prevents from happening. For me it's all about the intimacy and connection, and whilst a condom doesn't prevent 95%+ of that experience it's always great to have that added little extra too by going bareback. But if you don't know the person well enough then condom all the way - though being honest I've been stupid and not applied that myself.. still clean and childless thankfully.. both parties were young and stupid at the time.

For sex workers, wrap that shit up. I wouldn't even think twice about it.

Yes for full service most definitely . But you would surely think twice about allowing a sexy Asian working girl to suck your cock without a condom if she offered!
Keep in mind these Asian sex workers take the up most care in their health by having STI tests done regularly which includes test of the mouth for gonorrhea and chlamydia etc . Also remember the rate of STIs are lower among sex workers in legal brothels than the general population. Statistically you are far more likely to pick some thing up off a random pick up from a bar or tinder date than a sex worker. I believe a main factor in sex workers having a lower rate of STIs is that the working girls are educated to spot blemishes, pimples or other red or discoloured marks on a clients cock that could be signs or symptoms of a STI infection. I must say i have had quite a few regular Asian working girls over the years give me bareback oral and the girls have always given my cock a thorough inspection before sucking it and they have always given my cock a good wipe down with a wet tissue wipe as well as often using a towel soaking in hot water to clean my dick. Another precaution taken by the Asian working girls offering bareback oral is they will wash their mouth out with anti bacterial mouth wash before and after the booking.

I must say despite the risks for bareback oral having regular working girls that will provide it really is something special. I can't explain it but the feeling of your cock being sucked and licked by a girls lips and tongue really can be great if the girl is good at giving head. I have good self control and a bareback blow job is not enough to make me cum seeing as cuming in a working girls mouth is poor form but a good blow job is great at adding enhancement to the start of a booking and it's good for getting yourself in the mood for sex.

I must say even though i haven't had much bareback vaginal sexual intercourse i agree with the following comment you made before SS, "Obviously bareback increases the pleasurable sensation, which is great, but I love the greater intimacy more than that. Skin on skin contact, I'm sure there's some kind of chemical or electrical exchange taking place, which obviously a condom prevents from happening."

Now i am basing this statement purely on my past bookings with sex workers who were better than average at showing affectionate and providing a enjoyable sexual service but the whole skin on skin contact feeling and sensation you get from a hand job or blow job done without a condom really does have a feeling of greater intimacy. I too agree SS that some kind of chemical or electrical exchange takes place when two people have sex, but in my opinion just rubbing bodies with another person creates a chemical or electrical exchange between two people. There is something unexplannable about the engergy and mood that is created when two people are naked together.

I know people always say paid sex between a sex worker and her client is never the same as sex between two people that have true feelings for one and another and that the sex between the sex worker and client for money is not the same thing because there is no love between the hooker and customer which makes the act of sex a empty act, and may be true to some extent but paid sexual services provided by a truly professional working girl don't feel like an empty or clinical experience at all. A good sex worker knows how to push all the right buttons for a client and is that good at her job she leaves the client spellbound and under the impression the working girl genuinely enjoyed the clients company as well as the actual sexual intercourse. This i all for make up and believe and it goes without saying the sex workers are in it for the money and never tell the clients what the sex worker really thinks of them as far as attractiveness, looks and personality. Say what you will about the falseness and emptiness of paid sex between a prostitute and a client i think the American actor Steve Martin sums it up best, 'I believe that sex is one of the most beautiful, natural, wholesome things that money can buy"

To anyone who tries to tell me paying for sex is a bad desperate and undignified thing to do and as a alternative to deal with sexual tension i should jerk off at home over porn by myself I always say why is it ok for a young attractive woman to marry a wealthy older man for his money which will in turn improve the financial situation of the young attractive women who is pretty much using sex as a tool to move up the social ladder that is fine. Even if you could call the young woman a gold digger she has no where near the same amount of stigma around her as a sex worker who doesn't have the same social situation or opportunity to marry a wealthy man but does have the opportunity to work in a brothel and is willing to accept cash payment for 30 minutes of work providing sexual services to clients. ANd why should these clients feel quilty or ashamed about about being in a scenario or situation where only paying a sex worker will allow them to experience sex. These Clients due to no fault of their own can not organise a sexual partner for free . It's kinda a bit of a double standard that in the US a woman can marry a man for his money but a women can not agree to have sex with a man for cash payment.

For me most times i have sex i enjoy it and given the risks of protected sex i am willing to wear a condom. Most times i use the services of a sex worker i am either sober nor not under the influence of drugs so wearing a condom isn't that much a hassle or off putting. although on the odd occasion i have had a large amount of alcohol to drink or worst yet am coming down from meth and i am horny to cum but the feeling of rubber against my cock nulls the sensation of intercourse a well done hand job with strong technique and light sensual ball touching from a enthusiastic working girl is a perfectly good substitute for sexual intercourse. It's skin on skin after all which could explain the extra level of arousal that is needed to get you to orgasm while drunk or inebriated.

I grew up in the 80's and 90's so there was always education and awareness about wearing a condom for safe sex and to stop the spread of HIV/Aids in particular but talking to guys at my local pub who are aged in their 60's and 70's in the pre-aids days before 1980 people really were ignorant of the dangers of unprotected sex. The pill was invented in the 1960's so unwanted pregnancies became uncommon in brothels but in the 60's and 70's clients never had to wear condoms while fucking which really is incredible to think of now. I'd hate to think of the life expectancy for a sex worker that worked in the 60's or 70's but i doubt many who worked those years doing full service are still alive today.

Thankfully for the health and safety of the working girls and their clients since the early 80's when the state governments of Victoria and NSW sensibly made the socially responsible decision to legalise sex work and make it compulsory for all brothels to provide condoms the life expectancy for sex workers who started working in the 80's must be far greater than when the brothel industry was illegal unregulated and disease ridden.

 

[zephyr]

There are tines I wish I were a bloke or totally infertile as condoms do suck tbh but so does single motherhood.


I dunno how guys can just walk away from their kids and think they are worthwhile people.

If you want bareback ffs vasectomy and monogamy as youll find it hard to have it again with incurable std and 15 kids.

 

[Scrofula]

[sigh] No, Meth Cat, the guys aren't "just walking away" from their kids. Inside their incessant whining is a rich story of betrayal and deceit and being totally boned by the family court system. Telling a guy he owes money to his bitch ex-wife, who he gave so much for, asking nothing back, except to see the kids again, to reduce these fucking payments, anything, she's got brand new heels on, your Honor!! She's bleeding me dry here! "Sir, you haven't paid her a dime yet, this is about revoking your driver's license for non-payment of child support." AHH you see, she's taking my truck too!

 

[zephyr]

Yes ...non custodial fathers (and mums) who bitch about how much money child support is costing them should be given the opportunity to raise said child by themselves without any financial help from the other parent. Even if they dont want to.

There. That would shut them up.


Pffft 35 bucks a month you gotta be kidding me. Maybe for a world vision sponsor but your own kid? Lmao.

 

[swilow]

For a man there is something incredible about coming as deep as you possibly can in a woman. Knowing that you are spraying it right in her womb. I don't know much about anatomy. But it feels fucking awesome.

 

[zephyr]

Receiving does too.