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I hear you Xorkoth. I did the same path first opiates and then stimulants. Opiates never were a big problem for me, but after a while all the positives effects dissapeared and I was left with adiction and a bit space out. For me it is really imposible to get the nice effects again, it is like the magic on them has dissapeared. Quitting was not very difficult for me, I never dip myself too deep. Right now I can even occasionaly take some. The urge to take again the next day is not very strong. But just with 3 or 4 days in a row my body starts feeling weird. I can already smell that sweat...

Pentylone is quite dopaminergic. Maybe that's better. I am quite sure abusing any serotonergic stimulant is the worst for your brain. 4-EMC sounds much more dangerous. The problem with them is that the empatogenic effect doesn't last much so you keep redosing but the cost for the body is like if you were taking MDMA that way.
Anyway for people who has a tendence to take drugs stimulants are bad news. I stop ordering and just take them when a friend give me just a little. I cannot control it. And I harm myself. Stimulants can fuck you up really quickly. It is easy to stop when there is nothing left...

Only weed and cannabinoids are more compulsive for me. I am clearly a cannabicolic. I try to stay away from it. I smoked too much when I was really young so I have a behaviour pattern that it is just impossible to change. I like the stuff but I don't have a limit. With cannabinoids I got a couple of times in the hospital with seizures and I lost all strengh in the extremities which is a sign of neurotoxicity. My scanner of the brain is normal but some arteries look older than should. I blame stimulants and cannabinoids.
 
You mean synthetic canabinoids gave you seizures, right? Not good ol' cannabis itself? I am really wary of the synthetic 'noids, don't trust them.

Anyway, I agree with everything you're saying. I know it's hurting me and yes, I do primarily abuse serotonin releasing stimulants. You're right, it is hard to stop, except when they're gone, then it's easy. Problem for me is, I discovered propylhexedrine from Benzedrex inhalers. I walk by them at my grocery store all the time, I'll go there for food, and leave with an additional and probably pretty toxic item. :\ So it's never really gone. But hey, I got off opiates, this is nothing like that, I'm just starting to really think about my long-term health since I'm only about a year off from 35. I notice the effect it has on me.

You're so lucky you never got deep into opiates. Even though physically they're quite safe for chronic use (excepting overdoses of course), the addiction from them is absolutely soul-destroying. Never did I imagine such misery could exist. My life was hell for years, it was easily and without a doubt the worst thing that's ever happened to me from drugs... 10 years of addiction too, and it gets worse as it goes. The effect it has on who you are and how you feel about yourself is staggering, I basically hated myself and was disgusted by myself at the end, I wanted to die, I fantasized about it, gave some cursory thoughts to suicide but didn't actually intend on going there. But I truly believe I would never be able to get off them. I tried, oh how I tried. I credit ibogaine with literally saving my life.

Compared to that, stimulants ain't no thang. :) Just need to exercise more willpower. Easier said than done, but I am fully capable of it.

By the way I'm doing stimulants twice a week or sometimes more. Never losing sleep or anything, and supplementing 5-HTP when I do a serotonin releaser. So I'm not like out of control or anything, I just fully realize that I am impacting my health and especially my future health, and I also realize I am being compulsive about it and have broken some of my rules, so it is a problem for me.
 
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Stims are too wakeful for me. LSD is probably the strongest stim I use these days. Got some 2-FMA and a couple adderals though, I've heard great things about 2-FMA's effects on productivity. Gotta clean up the place really hardcore sometime soon and I'll likely take one of those to help me keep focused.

I'm vaping wax outa my pen and listening to jams right now, first day off in ages. Might catch a movie later if I'm not feelin' too stoned.
 
Yeah, 2-FMA is less recreational than even pure dex-amphetamine, which makes it great for a focusing, utilitarian stim. I've heard 2-FA is even better, haven't tried that one though, but I have tried 2-FMA. Very light, pleasant, energizing, and very in the background.
 
I'm not much for exploring the empathogens and stimulants, mostly cause of safety/health concerns, but Methylone, 2-FMA and MDAI are 3 that I'd like to sample.
Maybe at the end of the day it's better to stick to MDMA for empathogens, since it's the most well studied and tested, and seems to be the pinnacle of empathogens anyways.

Anyways, coffee is a good reliable stimulant. Couldn't get safer or tastier. Really different effect from the dopaminergics though.

Oh yeah 6-APB seems really interesting too.
 
Methylone is wonderful, kind of like cocaine (but real cocaine, not the cut to shit bullshit most people see) mixed with MDMA. I truly love it, it's top notch.

Good coke is something I've only had once. I think it was pure or nearly pure. This girl shared some with me at a music festival (same one I'm going in a week and a half!!), she brought out a tiny spoon, it had to be 10mg max, maybe 20, either way, it was really small. She gave me one scoop with it (leveled too) for each nostril. I remember as soon as it went in, I felt it absorbing into my nose and my whole face went numb, I felt like a dentist had given me novicaine in the back of my nose, even my cheeks were a little numb on the outside. Then within minutes I felt absolutely lovely. Empathogenic really, I felt love for everyone, wanted to talk, talk talk, the body feeling was heavenly. It was all I had that night, gradually I just felt normal again, absolutely no downsides.

Most street coke is fucking bullshit, there's so much else in there, you're lucky if you're getting 30% I'd wager. Last time I got some, my friend was raving about how good this guy's stuff is, and it didn't even numb the back of throat at all. Felt like some RC stim or something. It was damn expensive too. I got to do it for free for giving my friend a ride all over the place, but I almost regretted doing it afterwards. Good coke is something totally different.
 
You should really give a try to the apb's. 5-apb, 6-apb and 5-mapb especially. 6-apdb sounds good to but I have no experience. They are more uncertain than MDMA and different experiences with the same compound and dose can vary a lot. My opinion is that set and setting affects more the experience than with good old M. Nowadays I don't use MDMA anymore, I prefer to experiment with apb's. I have samples of 5-EAPB and 5-APDB but I don't know if I would ever try them.

Haven't tried 2-FMA but I am sure is good. 2-FA was the cleanest stimulant I have ever tried. Could eat and sleep with no problem, and no noticeable come down. A pity than in a binge I made it dissapear like magic.

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You mean synthetic canabinoids gave you seizures, right? Not good ol' cannabis itself? I am really wary of the synthetic 'noids, don't trust them.
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Sure, I was meaning synthetic cannabinoids. Ridiculous amounts of it. Once I opened the envelope I vaporised a little, got extremely high went shoppping for groceries and then sit in the sofa and get in a loop of smoke, eat, sleep until everything was gone. No respect at all for such dangerous compounds. Sometimes I was for weeks in that state and when everything was finnish I had no idea how many days I had been in there. Tolerance rises to the roof.

Imagine how out of me I was, that once they made a mistake and sent me 5-meo-Dalt intead of Ab-fubinaca. The envelope arrived after 3 weeks of binge. In a way I wanted to stop but I couldn't.
I noticed the powder was not really active at cannabinoids doses so I started vaporising mountains of it. Of course finaly it hit me, but I didn't realised I was taking a psychedelic, I just though that maybe I was getting crazy. In that state I didn't give a damn. Well after a few days of that I had my first neurotoxicity experience, I lost all strengh in the extremities I felt without energy at all. Going down the stairs was an odyssey. Like if I was 90 years old, scary. Went to the hospital they gave a neuroleptic and told me to take vitamin C and exercise. It took me a month to recover. Completely clean. I even stop the nicotine of the electronic cigarrette.
Then the results of the analysis came and I couldn't believe it. I had thrown down the basin a tryptamine! Oh well.
 
Let's play 'yesterday's most fun synchronicity' (of which there were many, it's par for the course anymore)
I was walking with a couple homies I hadn't seen in a few years on the best street in town, just a couple minutes after we had met up and were walking to their house, I saw a little tied baggy on the ground. My drug radar gave off a ping. Ding! Free cocaine for me and the homies! That accelerated our rate of catching up for a couple hours...
 
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You should really give a try to the apb's. 5-apb, 6-apb and 5-mapb especially. 6-apdb sounds good to but I have no experience. They are more uncertain than MDMA and different experiences with the same compound and dose can vary a lot. My opinion is that set and setting affects more the experience than with good old M. Nowadays I don't use MDMA anymore, I prefer to experiment with apb's. I have samples of 5-EAPB and 5-APDB but I don't know if I would ever try them.
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6-APDB tested well in the bed with a couple lady friends, everyone was very happy.
5-APDB needs a stimulant to keep it from feeling too sleepy or mongy.
 
Ya I knew about the need to mix it with a dopaminergic stimulant. Somebody handed me a bag of it because he had hated it. But he didn't mix with a stimulant. Do you think is worth trying?
 
Wow, yeah the synthetic cannabinoids are fucked up man. Years back, my friend was visiting and I was really drunk and was like, hey bro, let's smoke some of this synthetic cannabinoid! It was JWH-018, a very strong one. In my drunken stupor I remember making a layer of unknown thickness over the entire bong slider, with a little weed on the bottom, then without thinking twice I ripped the whole thing. I blacked out instantly, and came to with the most horrific rushing feeling and existential panic. I was totally immobilized, I was sitting on the chair, but could not my body at all except for my autonomous functions and my eyes. After like 5 minutes, my friend was like, dude, are you okay? I couldn't respond. He asked a couple more times, getting increasingly freaked out, and I could do nothing. Finally after like a half hour he was like, dude, if you can't tell me you're okay, I'm calling an ambulance, this shit is freaking me out and I'm starting to feel like I should. Through great force of will, I shook my head slightly and mumbled "no ambulance". Then he picked me up and laid me on the guest room bed and I passed out. A few hours later I woke up and I was fine. I'm lucky that the original wave seems relatively safe compared to all that crap they have today. It was a terrible and frightening experience, but I was fine.

Yeah I have tried 6-APB, 6-APDB and 5-MAPB. I grew to really like 6-APB, it's intense and nice, but a little heavy. 6-APDB seemed to be lacking something. But 5-MAPB, oh boy, great stuff.
 
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Let's play 'yesterday's most fun synchronicity' (of which there were many, it's par for the course anymore)
I was walking with a couple homies I hadn't seen in a few years on the best street in town, just a couple minutes after we had met up and were walking to their house, I saw a little tied baggy on the ground. My drug radar gave off a ping. Ding! Free cocaine for me and the homies! That accelerated our rate of catching up for a couple hours...
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Haha wow, nice. In college this friend of mine went to one of the big festivals. It was leaving time, and there was a horde of people. She was walking, and tripped over something. What something was it, you ask? Why, it was a full pound (later determined) of heady nugs. Well, she looked around to see if anyone was looking for it, and then just left with it. Pretty sweet find. =D
 
I take but one stimulant these days, dexamphetamine maybe once a week. I only take it orally, usually several low doses up to maybe 50mg over the day. I think oral dosing is much less moreish, if I'm snorting drugs I just need to keep snorting drugs. I think its conditioned behaviour. Orally, its just the swallowing of a capsule. Obviously, effects aren't immediate, there no real behavioral association.

I'm wanting to take some O-PCE today but my stomach is slightly upset, I've been on codeine all week and had some methadone yesterday. Guts are slightly agitated but I'm feeling like a space walk. I will wait until the body reconfigures.

Synthetic cannabinoids are nightmarish for me. I shouldn't generalise but my very limited experience was unpleasant every time. Just felt so dark and panicky. I like using weed to help me get to sleep, the shit I had (unknown but incredibly strong blend) lasted for about 30mins, so didn't induce sleep. I binged on it for a few days, started to feel very anxious and delusional and ended up binning the rest. Excess weed use can make me pretty loopy,it fucks my appetite, I get weird thoughts and delusions that are almost stimulant-comedown like. This is if I smoke more than a gram of herb a day. I stick to indica strains and just 2-3 bongs a night and I'm good. Synthetic noids make me loopy instantly. Not for me! :)
 
Opted for a combo of O-PCE (5mg snorted despite my above anti-nostrilrape statements) and unknown small quantity MXE. Its MXE from the 'new batch' going around that my brother obtained and gave me 50mg of. I don't know what it really is actually, but my hands are significant. :) Feel like MXE but also feels like s-ketamine, also O-PCE. Brother thinks its legit. Tastes like uranium.

I'm considering smoking either MPT or DMT today. I'm being considerate of MPT, not sure how much to dose. Any thoughts? If it works out, I might see how it goes with DMT as a companion.
 
By the way here is that soldering station i made

http://imgur.com/a/iJ1sl

Antique beewax mixed with walnut oil - smells so good!

Didn't really work this week (skipped and there wasn't much work) but finally doing better, over yesterday and today... Could possibly very well use a trip tomorrow <3 Now I should hit the gym...
Will wait with trying DOM until I receive a calibration weight in the mail (hopefully it isn't lost in the mail again!). Maybe TMA-2 (:
 
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