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Dissociatives The Big & Dandy 3-MeO-PCP Thread: 3-MeO 4 Leaf Clover

vortech said:
This thread has been real quiet lately. Has it lost its luster and everyone is onto newer analogues? I agree that it can quickly lose magic for anyone who uses it too frequently. I'd put this drug in the dose timing similar to classic psychedelics- after the honeymoon, the best effects can only be achieved if used only sporatically, like once every few weeks or so. I jumped back into it a couple days ago after months of abstinence and it definitely got me to the outer realms on the first night (WOW!), but re-dosing doesn't even work as well as it used to. I took more today and it barely gave me a ping. Looks like I need to hold back for at least a few days, or more like a week. Its one of those drugs that I wish could be used semi-regularly, but the reality is that after hitting hard., it takes quite a while to get tolerance back to a place that makes it worthwhile.
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I find myself having a similar reaction. I feel like taking it less often now because it's better if I do it less often. Also, I don't seem to get the increase in positive hypomanic feelings in successive days as much.

I bet plenty of people are still using it, but maybe there's just been so much said already.
 
Xorkoth said:
I bet plenty of people are still using it, but maybe there's just been so much said already.
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Yeah, probably that. I used it two night ago, actually. Went dancing with a girl, had lots of fun. Before going back home we smoked some cannabis and things got weird for a while, we had to sit on a bench and talk about how the street lights change the colors of the world at night.
 
It takes me to a nice place, but i don't really have a whole lot to say about it.
The way i've found use for this stuff is pretty solitary (and interesting) but not really something i have any urge to try to articulate.
Also; i seem to have unusually trippy/dissociative material, as opposed to a lot of people who use it like a stim.
Makes it hard to discuss because it is like they are two different drugs.
I treat it much like i used mxe - as a dissociative psychedelic (always with weed) which seems kind of anomolous.
Weird drug in that sense.
 
Indeed a weird drug. What doses do you use? I like to do literally 1mg at a time, it's very subtle but the alteration it produces is useful. I find 2mg at a time good too, but a little more drug-like. 1mg is quite subtle.
 
I've got some of that batch, the one that reminds me of MXE kind of. It still feels like 3-MeO also, but much trippier and more dissociating in a way that reminds me of MXE. Got both samples GC/MS and both were pure 3-MeO-PCP. See further back in the thread for that.
 
I love this drug but something about it doesn't feel good at all with my bladder, urinary system. I have no heavy disso abuse in my history nor do I have these problems with mxe
 
Huh, weird, I have never noticed any bladder issues with 3-MeO despite using it quite a lot. Maybe because my doses are so low (1-2mg per bump).
 
I always make sure to drink lots of water, it makes me feel pretty dehydrated.

I feel like I've explored this one enough / isn't going to offer anything new - not something I want to do on a near-daily basis anymore (namely because I borderline lost my shit for a couple of weeks due to my own recklessness) - but it's still nice in sporadic low doses here and there.
 
I kind of have to hold myself back from using this whenever I go out. I love the way it provides just the right about of social lubrication without feeling too spun (unless I take too much, which I've done on several occasions). I'm still definitely an outlier as I regularly take ~12mg.

This past weekend I took that amount and a half tab of acid for a boat party, and after smoking some weed it felt like I took much more than the half tab. I love the way these drugs combine.
 
Wow, 3-MeO-PCP is something special.

I dosed 5.5mg early afternoon Sunday to see how it fares for outdoor activity, my second dose in the last couple months. Went out for a bike ride on a fairly long local trail, and felt a smooth and steady buildup of confidence and euphoria, to a plateau around 3 hours in, where something just clicked. I felt absolutely content and just happy to be alive, but without overwhelming energy—I was able to channel the hypomania into my exercise routine. Got home and spent some time chilling in bed, listening to music, before spending the comedown prepping dinner.

It’s a bit challenging to articulate. I’m not normally a confident person—I tend to hesitate and second-guess myself when confronted with just about any decision. 3-MeO-PCP obliterates that feeling and replaces it with a profound, self-affirming attitude—“I love life. I love myself. I’m motivated to do more.”

I was sorely tempted to dose again Monday, but avoided doing so. This is a powerful drug for introverted, less self-confident people; I plan to watch my use very carefully—once weekly at most.
 
Malmet, welcome to the magic that is this holy trinity of you and me together into we. It has been an essential supplement the last few days. I take back what I said about using it sporadically. Sometimes its the perfect remedy, continuously in-taking can be spiritually regenerating.
 
Xorkoth said:
Huh, weird, I have never noticed any bladder issues with 3-MeO despite using it quite a lot. Maybe because my doses are so low (1-2mg per bump).
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mine are usually no more than 5 or 7.

its been with different batches also. I threw another batch away thinking it was just that....but nope, other batches do it to me also. It only seems to happen if I do it a few days in a row but still troubling.
 
So I placed an order for five grams of 3-meo today and am a bit apprehensive about which type I am going to receive. I have been wanting to explore this compound for quite some time now, but am uncertain whether I am going to get the fluffy white substance that is known to produce more sedating, dissociating effects, or the tan sandy substance known to cause more of the manic, less dissociating stimlike effects. I understand that they are both stimulating, but am hoping to receive the white fluffy as opposed to the tan sandy.

The reports/experiences I have read about on here throughout the various megathreads written about 3-meo seem to vary greatly depending on the individual, the dose, and the type injested. I understand that this is not a drug that can be considered a replacement for MXE, but I have tried various different batches and although they were always a bit different in effect when compared side by side, there never was a batch I can say I particularly did not enjoy, though I certainly preferred the more sedating, floaty ones compared to the more stimulating, glidey versions.

3-meo has been around for a while now, and I am wondering what batches seem to be the most prevalent these days. Also I have a scale that I weigh my RCs on, that being a Gemini 20, but it's impossible to accurately weigh out a dose as low as 1-2 mgs on it. Would it be safer just to make a solution and dose orally with a syringe? It seems many experienced users here prefer to insufflate 3-meo, which is not my usual preferred ROA when it comes to dissos or tryptamines. I have always had much more profound experiences just simply eating MXE as opposed to putting it up my nose. Same goes for tryptamines such as 4-HO-MET or 4-AcO-DMT. Why do people like insufflating it so much?

My motive in ordering this specific disso is actually to help with some issues with depression and anxiety I have been having. Even when I did use MXE daily it was never to hole on it, but for the therapeutic benefits I got from it by microdosing. I also did enjoy the recreational value it provided in higher doses ;) But I understand 3-meo isn't like that, and I plan on proceeding with the utmost caution. I also have a large order of various lysergamides and tryptamines coming my way soon, and after reading the reports here about the beautiful synergy experienced when combined with compounds like ALD-52 and 1p-LSD, my interests have peaked.

Thanks for taking the time to read this and any feedback is greatly appreciated :)
 
I also find that MXE is far better orally. I also find that 3-MeO-PCP is a better dissociative experience at higher doses orally than nasally, however, I like the fact that nasal admin is more stimulating and kicks in quicker, for small doses for therapeutic/motivation purposes I like it better. It's also less wonky and more physically enabling nasally. It's more potent orally IMO, like MXE.

Not everyone even agrees about the batch variance, but for me it's pretty clear. Can't comment on which is more prevalent, the first 2 times I got it it was hypomanic and stimulating, then the next time it was more dissociating and wonky. Then my friend found the stimulating batch again and I got a bit from there, it's been a while even since that.
 
^:) <3

I've only taken the manic batch. I must say, recently ive found the mania a bit uncomfortable. I've gotten to quite dissociated states from it and enjoyed the stimmy afterglow but often need a benzo or GHB to settle.

I'd like to try this more trippy batch, it sounds interesting.

I don't understand how two different batches of the same drug exist...
 
Cozzie Jeraph said:
3-meo has been around for a while now, and I am wondering what batches seem to be the most prevalent these days. Also I have a scale that I weigh my RCs on, that being a Gemini 20, but it's impossible to accurately weigh out a dose as low as 1-2 mgs on it. Would it be safer just to make a solution and dose orally with a syringe?
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sounds like a good idea, and probably much more accurate than what i sometimes do, which is to weigh 10mg and divide it into 4.
Cozzie Jeraph said:
It seems many experienced users here prefer to insufflate 3-meo, which is not my usual preferred ROA when it comes to dissos or tryptamines. I have always had much more profound experiences just simply eating MXE as opposed to putting it up my nose. Same goes for tryptamines such as 4-HO-MET or 4-AcO-DMT. Why do people like insufflating it so much?
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i dislike snorting most drugs, and this is no exception.
i personally think the effects of orally dosing this one are far, far superior - you just have to be patient and aware of the long come-up.
for me it generally seems to take between 75 and 90 minutes to kick in, but if you plan ahead, this should cause no problem. it actually can be quite handy - if you're going out to a club, for example, you can dose at home and arrive at the place, get through the door staff/security etc and into the club, whilst showing no signs of intoxication (and not be carrying anything), only to have it kick in a little later.

not that i make a habit of doing this (done it once or twice) - but it's just an example.
frankly, it makes you pre-plan your 3-meo-pcp trips, which isn't such a bad thing; it's not something i tend take on a whim, but having said that, it is fairly versatile, and i've had good experiences with both low doses (as i go about my day or take it to 'enhance' my experience of something else, such as taking ~2mg and meeting a friend to chat over a coffee) and high doses, lying down with my eyes closed, listening to music.

the latter is definitely quite a commitment of time, so i treat it like a psychedlic trip, rather than an enhancer of more mundane daily activities.
each to their own though, obviously.

just be careful and treat it with great respect - as you will have noticed reading this thread, it can really turn on you if you don't.
i've never tried the 'speedy' stuff, but i really love the batch i have. i got 5g years ago, and at the rate that i use it, i suspect it'll last me for decades, because i don't binge on it for days or weeks on end.
i've never taken it more than twice in a week, i don't think - and usually go weeks, even months between doses.

at that level of use, it's lovely stuff.
i personally have no desire whatsoever to "push" it to see what the limits are, because IME it is nowhere near as forgiving as something like MXE.

i'll be keen to hear what you think of it :)
 
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