Tryptamines I Have Known and Loved in order of appearance: 4-aco-dmt, 4-ho-met, 5-meo-dipt, 5-meo-mipt, dmt, dipt, 5-meo-dmt, 4-aco-met, 4-aco-det.
I found no desire to continue my investigation after the 4-aco-det, it gave me such a bad body load with tremors and spasms the few times I tried it, that I went back to my beloved 4-ho-met.
What is in your opinion the thing that makes 4-ho-mpt stand over my favourite ones?
That's a pretty good list, I'm jealous that you've gotten to try 5-MeO-DMT and 5-MeO-DiPT! The first one especially, the second at least for the novelty. I think I can understand your perspective though. If there are any that I would still recommend trying even given that you feel satisfied with them in general, it would be the 4-substituted ones that have methyls in them, and maybe the base ones too if you really like DMT. So, pretty much at least 4-HO-MiPT and 4-HO-MPT like is being discussed here. If you like 4-AcO-DMT and 4-HO-MET I'm sure you'd at least find both interesting, I personally feel that there is sort of a unique magic binding this specific structural group of psychedelics together. Even with the mild effects I've gotten so far with 4-HO-McPT I could already feel it forming.
About the body load with tremors, I'll just say that the experience has been incredibly variable with me from one trip to the next. 20 mg of 4-HO-MET will give me tremors, then 25 mg won't, then 35 mg will, then 50 mg won't. I've found similar results with other 4-substituted tryptamines as well. I will admit though that probably the worst tremors I ever got from them were from my first time on 4-HO-DET, so perhaps that family does stand out a bit. Nonetheless, I have gotten body loads almost as strong at one time or another from almost all of them, so I would take that information and honestly also your own past and future experiences with a grain of salt. I think there's possibly something more complicated than we think going on there, and I'll also say that the more tryptamines I take the fewer tremors I get, and I also have gotten to a point where the ones I do get don't bother me in the slightest anymore.
Anyway, 4-HO-MPT.... For me, 4-HO-MPT has the DMT-like geometric visuals and breakthrough potential of 4-AcO-DMT and mushrooms, the imagery, stimulation, and hedonism of 4-HO-MET, and the ego dissolution and rebirth, confidence, and visionary hallucinations of LSD. Not all of these qualities may present at once at lower doses, but it just seems variable, like I noticed more 4-AcO-DMT-like qualities with 20 mg and more 4-HO-MET-like qualities with 25 mg, whereas 50 mg was the most like LSD, but also had all of them strongly at that point. The headspace was very much like a compressed LSD trip, with the really mentally heavy first few hours compressed into like 45 minutes and then followed by seven hours of euphoric re-emergence from the heavy ego loss, which was much less mental still than LSD itself. The open eye geometric visuals were much like LSD as well, tons of beautiful neon gear fractals and super long and numerous tracers, at times nearly blinding, and there were smiling faces and growing tropical vines everywhere much like 25 mg of 4-HO-MET, and music brought them out more. With closed eyes or in a dark room there were two distinct effects going on: first, LSD-like images of people busily moving around distant landscapes began to unfold, and then they blended with highly bejeweled fractal tunnel imagery like on DMT. A white light burst out from the center of my vision and started creating a heavily stacked feeling to the visions as well. The euphoria was incredible at that point as well, my body felt like it was about to buzz out of existence and I had tons of energy. Doing a balloon of nitrous oxide at the peak gave me a spontaneous orgasm, and also increased the adrenaline-like stimulation to the point that my vision went grayscaled, and when I came out of it I laughed even more than 4-HO-MET has ever made me. Afterwards I went to look in the mirror and saw TV celebrities looking back at me more than I saw myself. The whole thing was just insane and wonderful, and honestly didn't even feel like it was quite at "full" yet still. I need to back for the breakthrough one of these days....
Essentially, what it comes down to is that I like it because, though I would never call these psychedelics interchangeable, I find that it feels very much like if 4-HO-MET is the recreational version, 4-HO-MPT is the full-blown version. For me, 4-HO-MET is like a half step away from mushrooms and 4-AcO-DMT and a half step towards LSD with a touch of its own flavor, and 4-HO-MPT is like 4-HO-MET, flavor and all, but a half step back towards mushrooms and 4-AcO-DMT
and a half step further towards LSD. It's the real deal.
Of course, that is for me anyway.... It could be totally worthless for you. I just thought I'd ask.
), for the last two you could probably start with compiling old pharma research... various pharma companies must have tons of unpublished material about both classes lying around in their archives add the published stuff too and you'd get two huge books, copy right be damned) and looking for weird psychedelics
Knowing about your love for DOC and 3-MeO-PCP, your opinion is of high value for me, so maybe this next month I'll pick up some.
