Has Political Correctness Gone Mad?

[LandsUnknown]

I agree but at the same time I think there is a time and place for respect. For instance, there are some aspects of PC culture that could be good. For instance, I think that racists shouldn't be able to use the N-word on television or spout racial hatred on TV. However, I think it's important that people are able to talk openly. Even though I don't agree with racists, homophobes, and other bigots, I think that even they should be able to explain the reasons for their ideology to others (including those who are likely to refute them). Perhaps if they discussed the reasons behind their thinking with others (not part of the group that they hate obviously), they would actually begin to see that there isn't really evidence for their thinking and that may actually result in them changing their ideology over time. If they don't interact with anyone that refutes their way of thinking, it's unlikely that it would get anywhere.

 

[zephyr]

I dont think people have got more sensitive per se but have got a lot more time on their hands and a wider audience via social media to bang on about stupid crap that they arent interested in except to make a fuss and cant back down from a stupid argument without having the final word.

 

[One Thousand Words]

People can be sensitive to anything that offends themselves. Making a call on how other people might be offended is where most people get annoying.

 

[noone1]

It's the flip side to the conservatives "traditional values" wanting to sanitize everything so it conforms to their 1950's Christian white America vision where no one can swear and any type of sex is anathema.

Sure it should be kept in check but saying that any attempt to not be an insensitive dick head is "PC gone mad!" is shit and probably has racist, sexist, white supremacist roots. All coded garbage by fascistic nazis "ACTUALLY, reverse racism is the real problem and white people are being oppressed way more than any other minority down with PC" is when you know you have a real dumb racist shit heel.

 

[LandsUnknown]

It's the flip side to the conservatives "traditional values" wanting to sanitize everything so it conforms to their 1950's Christian white America vision where no one can swear and any type of sex is anathema. Sure it should be kept in check but saying that any attempt to not be an insensitive dick head is "PC gone mad!" is shit and probably has racist, sexist, white supremacist roots. All coded garbage by fascistic nazis "ACTUALLY, reverse racism is the real problem and white people are being oppressed way more than any other minority down with PC" is when you know you have a real dumb racist shit heel.

I agree wholeheartedly, and I'd take PC culture over 1950s christian white america any day. Honestly, fuck 1950s christian white america. It's free speech to say FUCK but if those people had their way it wouldn't be anymore Proof of this is that saying fuck doesn't hurt anybody, though the 50s Christians would say it "corrupts morality" when really it isn't anything more than a word. Political varieties of the word are protected under the first amendment too, such as the example of FUCK TRUMP. However, saying something that starts with N and ends with R is actually a very hurtful and harmful thing that upsets a large group of people..... unlike the previous example that is only offensive to a singular orange person. I think that saying f*** orange people would be offensive too, since it's talking about an entire skin color rather than just one individual.

 

[alasdairm]

^ i feel it goes a little deeper.

most liberals i know would be described as sjw's by people here and they'd be the first to admit it.

but the republican right in the u.s. says on one hand that they are the party of liberty, the party of small government - the government has no right meddling in your life or your choices. that is until it's something with which they disagree - smoking pot, gay sex, whatever. then they're lining up to interfere in your life and to pass laws to limit your choices.

alasdair

 

[swilow]

18c isn't the whole act, its the part that says we cannot "offend" others based on race, etc. I agree that we should not discriminate, but I do not believe the governments role is to protect people from being offended..

I'm happily called an "SJW". Yeah, I want a just society- how's that bad?

 

[LucidSDreamr]

^ i feel it goes a little deeper.

most liberals i know would be described as sjw's by people here and they'd be the first to admit it.

but the republican right in the u.s. says on one hand that they are the party of liberty, the party of small government - the government has no right meddling in your life or your choices. that is until it's something with which they disagree - smoking pot, gay sex, whatever. then they're lining up to interfere in your life and to pass laws to limit your choices.

alasdair

they are only small government towards corporations and gun owners. thats all that means. dumb southerners just eat it up though

 

[alasdairm]

they are only small government towards corporations and gun owners.

yep. complete inconsistency on so many things: small government; death penalty; flag-burning; etc.

alasdair

 

[swilow]

I wonder if 'small government' NRA members consider that the NRA is basically a faction of big government given its incredible, disproportionate influence over it and its HUGE membership.

 

[StoneHappyMonday]

I'm happily called an "SJW". Yeah, I want a just society- how's that bad?

Because it's political correctness gone mad. You can't even plug an electric fire in and throw it into a Muslim's bath anymore without them banning Christmas. Political correctness gone mad.

 

[One Thousand Words]

That's just silly. I doubt many Muslims bathe

 

[tathra]

"political correctness" has totally gone mad, what with so many reactionaries and fascists so desperate to dictate what people are and aren't allowed to say, and demanding that they not be called by words whose definitions accurately and precisely describe them and their actions, while simultaneously demanding that they be allowed to "tell it like it is" and "not worry about offending people" yet being so extremely offended when people do exactly that and tell it like it is without worrying about offending them.

 

[thujone]

you know you're a *-winger when you forget there's a center.

 

[Cream Gravy?]

^Peace, love, indica, sativa bro

It's weird what's happening on college campuses now, and shit. I 'm glad I got out just before that.

 

[spacejunk]

That's just silly. I doubt many Muslims bathe

Not once they've assimilated to British norms

 

[consumer]

I think OTW's posts in this thread are very on point. It echoes what i would say but i lack otw's communication skillz

 

[tantric]

i am, at heart, a trickster. it's not an easy archetype to own. naturally, the whole pc thing rubs me wrong. I'm going to give you an example of my mental process. While I was working in ecology, our building had courtyard with a beautiful wisteria climbing the walls. One of the divisions of the ecology depart concered invasive species and their eradication and, unfortunately, wisteria is such a species. One day they got all fired up and hacked down the wisteria, leaving a pathetic stump, which upset a lot of people. I decided to be funny and cut out a little word balloon, making it look like the stump was speaking, that read "Next time you want to get rid of an invasive species, try packing your own asses back to Africa." Shocked? It never even dawned on me that that would be racially offensive. The human race is from Africa, we invaded other continents and brutalized the ecosystems. Yeah, didn't go over well. The point being, I'm not fake colorblind, I'm not ignoring stuff, it's just not part of how I think, so sometimes I do/say wildly offensive things with ignorant/genius innocence. (the positive result is that I bonded with the only black ecology grad student, who thought the whole uproar was hysterical)

while in prison i mastered prison slang. once there was this guy who was pontificating on how egypt was black and the cradle of civilization and his ancestors were pharoahs, etc. i held it in as long as i could, then, 'nigga, i got more africa in my little finger than you do in your whole body. egypt is about as relevant to your ancestry as madagascar. mwana harumu wa mzungu' (swahili = blasphemous offspring of a non-african). carried it, too - everybody laughed at his pretentious ass.

people of color? wtf am i? transparent?

 

[spacejunk]

lol - faux news as a source.

Better luck next time ryan.

 

[alasdairm]

If this isn't pc gone mad, I don't know what is.

forgive me for laughing but you sound like my grandad

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/03/13/ny-dropping-teacher-literacy-test-amid-claims-racism.html

did you read the thing or are you just hoping people will just read the headline and accept it as the truth and the whole truth?

from the article:

Charles Sahm, the director of education policy at the Manhattan Institute, a conservative think tank, is a strong supporter of raising the bar for teachers. But, he said, he’s not a fan of this particular literacy test.

Sahm took the $20 practice exam and thought it was a poorly designed test with multiple-choice questions that seemed to have more than one correct answer.

alasdair