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2017 Trump Presidency Thread

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What negative effects has his presidency had on america so far?
Has the economy suffered?
aside from arguments about the damage he has already done to the integrity of the oval office, while the effects of trumps actions on the greater economy will take time to become apparent, the travel industry is already starting to feel the effects and it's only likely to get worse:

'Trump Slump' hits tourism in the U.S. - and Berkshire County
The Travel Press is Reporting the 'Trump Slump,' a Devastating Drop in Tourism to the United States

alasdair
 
church says: don't use condoms, don't have abortions. even if you are poor, god will provide what you need to bring up all your children you keep popping out . how anyone can believe this insanity is just baffling to me
 
church says: don't use condoms, don't have abortions. even if you are poor, god will provide what you need to bring up all your children you keep popping out . how anyone can believe this insanity is just baffling to me
It's one of the biggest hypocrisies to ever dawn the planet Earth I sometimes think.
 
I feel blessed not to have "god" in my life.

I'm disturbed by religious fanatics in positions of political power though.
 
As I understand it, you believe that sex should only occur between a married couple

This is the best way for it to happen, and safest. It's the most responsible, and it is the highest expression of it, although my language needs some working here. It has the highest potential for being "righteous".

and they shouldn't use any form of birth control besides planning within the woman's cycle and waiting for that time period to boink if you're tryin not to get pregnant, yes?

Birth control alters hormones in undesirable ways, increases the risk of certain cancers, and is another thing that people come to depend on/lean on. If you can do it without, I think that is better.
Condoms as birth control are a barrier, and that isn't what I am going for when I want sex. And they give people a sense of security. Certain STDs still get spread, even with using condoms. Condoms and all of these forms of birth control give people incentive or allowance to be more free, and in ways, this makes them take things less seriously/possibly for granted. I don't see it as having much integrity on it's own, and should be eliminated if possible (if we're ready).

Edit: But I do see the "value" of these methods of birth control, including abortion, to a society/to people, that don't really know exactly, with precision and experience, what is valuable, and what truly weighs what to what, from the start.

You feel that abortion is wrong because people should never be impulsive or have sex outside of your pre-planned, married-people-only schedule, correct? Would I be going too far in assuming that you think sex shouldn't be had for pleasure and only used as a procreation method?

I think sex- that is fully open to the possibilities, has the highest potential, to be the most fulfilling.


I was mostly just razzing you when saying the bit about how my girl and I are white so no worries, but your anecdote about having knocked up a mixed girl and not wanting to thus have a mixed child makes it out like you wouldn't have aborted it if it was white, thus believing that other races are only good for fucking but not procreating because they would muddle your perfect heritage or something? Or would you aborted it if it was a white girl too?

That depends on the "white girl", but it would be a much harder decision to make (to terminate). It wasn't really my decision then, and I wouldn't have protested if she wanted to have it. In fact I considered asking her if she had considered, or would consider a planned adoption, but I didn't.

I don't really see myself being able to do it if I was in love with the person, and I'm much more likely to love a white girl like that. "I'm not ready" isn't really a valid excuse to me. I think if we're not ready we should be fixing our society so we're fucking ready.
 
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Well, what happens when a man and a woman have the kind of sex that their sex organs developed for, when the man's penis eventually ejaculates into the vagina, and the sperm makes its way to the egg. That possibility. What basically happens when you have sex (or not, but it might).
 
It also probably feels better if you're HIV positive to have sex with another person who is HIV positive. They're able to be more fully open, if they already have the disease, and the partner does too. Otherwise, they're either lying, feel guilty, have to cover some other way (lie, use a condom)...
 
No you were displaying all since of a 8yr old traumatic breakdown of emotion and logic, I was being nice to refer to your 8year old meltdown.

I am not a bigot, I have no need to sugar coat my words that sent you into emo rage, you don't like the TFB...you're an adult grow the fuck up you infant.

Yes I believe there is absolutely no solution to integrating christian/islamic faiths because one teacher peace and love, while the other espouses child rape, female genital mutilation, the enslavement of women, Islam teaches men to rape young boys, Islam teaches to murder the non believers. Islam teaches each follower to kill non believers and to equate women with bovine cattle.

You literally have no when you daughter your great granddaughter is in a full burka getting beat and gang raped by her husband's male family on a daily basis, you will know then.

ut until then keep up with the ideology that will have your future children's child getting gang raped in black robes, thrown acid on her face if she protets and ultimatley sill spend everyday HATING her great greta grandfather for eing such a week cuckhold that hates his own people so much he is actively encouraging his daughter's whore future.

I did not write this my account must have been hacked I'm reporting it.
 
What23, go read ISIS' manifesto, it says to work with left wing activists because they share the same goal. So keep that in mind when these starbucks marxists spout this open border crap ;)
 
Well, what happens when a man and a woman have the kind of sex that their sex organs developed for, when the man's penis eventually ejaculates into the vagina, and the sperm makes its way to the egg. That possibility. What basically happens when you have sex (or not, but it might).
what does any of that have to do with a man-made, abstract agreement like marriage?

I did not write this my account must have been hacked I'm reporting it.
if your account has been hacked what do you expect us to do about it? change your password: Edit Email & Password

alasdair
 
marriage implies a committed relationship. would a woman not be committed to a man who she was letting knock her up? Speaking from a perspective where we don't have big government to take care of us...
 
^ is there some major influence in your attitudes towards sex?
Religious?
Have you had (m)any serious intimate relationships?

Well, what happens when a man and a woman have the kind of sex that their sex organs developed for, when the man's penis eventually ejaculates into the vagina, and the sperm makes its way to the egg. That possibility. What basically happens when you have sex (or not, but it might).

I did not write this my account must have been hacked I'm reporting it.

So... how's Trump's Presidency working out for you guys? :D
 
What23, go read ISIS' manifesto, it says to work with left wing activists because they share the same goal. So keep that in mind when these starbucks marxists spout this open border crap ;)

They share the same goal, up to a point. It would be a truce to get to that point, and then the left-wing people would be brought to heel/there would be a fight. Because their values don't align with our "progressives".
 
your posts rarely make a cogent point to me and your thinking often appears incredibly muddled. this issue is no exception.

imho, of course.

alasdair
 
I feel blessed not to have "god" in my life.

I'm disturbed by religious fanatics in positions of political power though.

Are you happy that you live in a world that was shaped by Christian values?

I'm not the most religious person as of recent but am still glad I live in a society that espouses christian values even if I don't agree with them all.

Christian values for the most part make the world a better place, it puts limits and safeguards and teaches morals that do not get taught otherwise.

Look at these godless and senseless idiots dressed in vagina costumes screaming for the right to mutilate babies, what values are they going to espouse to the children made from breeding parties? Taking them to slut rallies and buying junior vagina costumes I assume....smfh

Growing up in almost any other religion's culture is damn near 3rd world misery for everyone except men of military age.

I'd also be afraid to see what a world that centered on atheism would look like, something tells me everyone would had either all committed suicide or enslaved, because they have no values or morals, they just do as thou wilt.

I find it funny when men object to abortion when they dont have to carry the babies or go through child birth

Because 50% of that bay is the man's, and what decent man living in decent conditions wants to murder his baby?

However.....

As far as abortion I believe in very extreme, medically approved cases only.

If it was safe and possible I would be willing to bet men would be much better child bearers like most everything else in life.
 
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