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Techno is for me, definitely.

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while our ears and, for years, our educations and aesthetics sentiments have tuned our ears to Latin as the model of elegant and parsimonious speech aggluttinative, languages kind of feel elegant in a way if you can figure out Wtf is going on; the Axis sure couldn't in the Pacific theater (cf. Cherokee, almost every word is like a haiku buried in itself; unsurprisingly well under 9,000 non-native speakers, almost all Jesuit—all out for Holy Mother Church!—or a few very tweedy US anthropologists basing themselves thereupon; I think the OSI did a detailed study and found that there were like exactly 2 people who could understand it in Germany and zero in Japan and the 2 probably were actively being persecuted by Herr Hitler as they were, well, Jesuits)

so too, this is almost poetic even if the more baroque agglunates sound a little abrasive to the untrained ear; on a tactical level this also caused some issues for the Soviets in Finland although of course enough Finnish speakers could be found for more important strategic stuff.) amazing though we can be wired from birth continuing up for epâjärjestelmälli-styttämoyyömuuxell-äänkohänkääan, my mind boggles alone double umlauts outside of a metal album cover, but then again we and even more than we more Germanic languages do it, only the Finns, and Cherokee, seem to excel at systematic linguistic abstraction.

English of course is the lingua franca (ironically) of trade and science, but interesting to imagine how things would've been if the Finns achieved that geopolitical status at that time, it's easily enough to imagine a German calling you on a fernsprecher, or, as some reactionary nostalgists did, Tolkien among them, to imagine "farspeaker," "selfdriver/selbstfahrer" gaining a currency in some imagined alternative English (if only the latter half of the 19th century had gone differently!) that they've lost even in moderne deutsche Sprache, but in such a paradigmatically different tongue, Safir–Worf skeptic that I am, one must wonder what differences might have arisen?
 
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I hate playin phone tag
Papi said he was gonna give me some coke to throw to some people and dude hit me but i was on the phone with someone else and i didnt notice now he isnt answerin
I WANT THEM ROCKZ TRYIN TO GET MONEY
 
Been watching the Trump/Clinton debate, but I dunno if I have the patience for any more. It's less of a "debate" and more of a battle of back-and-forth accusations.

Trump can't stay on topic for his life; he's just regurgitating his canned lines over and over again. ("The Iran deal is terrible. Hilary is a criminal. We need to secure our borders.")
 
^Yeah, honestly... as rich as Trump is, when he talks, argues, debates, anything comes out of his mouth... I can't help but think "My God that man is so unintelligent." And worst of all, I don't think he was like Bush Jr. and just faking it to appeal to people who don't do much thinking. I think we're seeing the legitimate and true Trump up there, making an ass of himself for the world. Hillary may be a sleazebag, but damn, at least she's smart! You can see when she talks just how well she was cut out to be a politician. This was her calling. She knows the game and it's paying off. If Trump somehow wins the election, I'm gonna call foul. That would be BS. It would be more obvious than the Bush Jr. military coup back in 2000. No one in their right mind would ever want that man to be head of state. No one.
 
I think some people enjoy doing the standard drugs (weed and alcohol), but that they're never that into drugs... it's just something fun but they don't have a passion for altered states like we do. I know a lot of people that I went to high school with who smoked and drank sometimes, but who stopped doing it after college because for a lot of people, that means it's time to "get serious" and leave that "kid stuff" behind. The idea that psychedelics and weed aren't something a mature adult would do are pretty widespread. My ex, when we got together (first year of college) scoffed at me when I tried to tell her about psychedelics, she said "that stuff's for kids, grow up". Which is really ironic since psychedelics are actually better to use if you ARE grown up. One of my best friends in high school was the biggest pothead among us... he was the first to buy weed and was one of the heaviest smokers I knew. We all went to college, and for Thanksgiving that first year, just 2 months after going off to college (and keep in mind as a sendoff the night before we all went away, his idea was to bake out his car with a massive joint for each person), we all got back together while visiting home. We were like, hey guys, let's smoke. He gave us a serious stinkeye and was like, "do you guys seriously still do that shit? That shit's for kids man, I don't smoke anymore, I grew out of it", and then he proceeded to drink 20 beers that night instead. Apparently at his college that was the prevailing idea, when you get to college you grow up and stop smoking and start drinking. At least among the people he hung out with anyway.

Personally I don't see myself ever "growing out of" psychedelics.

Honestly, I think things have changed in those regards these days. It seemed to me like in high school, weed was soooo taboo (though not hard to find hahah). In the past years since I started toking though, I've noticed weed becoming more and more prevalent. People who used to chastise me in HS for being a pothead my senior year and whom I never would have guessed would ever do more than drink, are now doing blow and smoking weed, etc. Even got one of my oldest friends to try acid this summer, whom I always thought of as a 'pot only' kinda guy. It probably has something to do with weed becoming legal a few places in the states. When I'm around people younger than me, I hear them talk about getting high very frequently.


This weekend was one of the best/worst times of my life. Friday night I headed to our local Renfest. My girlfriend and I got pretty tipsy, but not too far, and spent a decent amount of time watching women play naked-jenga and hanging out with this group of campers who all wore kilts. I love how we can share an appreciation for the female form together 8) Saturday we went to the fair, started drinking right after our morning coffee. I was pretty tipsy by the time we got to the front gate. We saw less of the shows this year but spent more time appreciating the atmosphere, checking out shops, and talking strangers' ears off hah. I wore some lederhosen, but I was one of hundereds of guys in lederhosen hah. My friend came up with the idea of having me take a picture with anyone we saw in the same outfit, and I would go up to them first and be like, "Cool costume man! I haven't seen anyone all day wearing lederhosen!" We even got a picture of me giving a thumbs up behind a dude pissing hahah, we were pretty fucked up.

Where things got nasty was, I didn't end up eating much all day. I lost count of how many drinks I had that day, probably in excess of 20 though to be honest... by the time the fair closed and we made it back to camp, I was plastered. The last thing I remember was talking to some dudes from another town and then going with them back to their site to probably get high or something. Problem was, I lost them before I got to their campsite. I could barely see straight, I was stumbling and shouting at strangers and the like. I ended up finally trying to make my way back. Luckily our camp was pretty clear to see and I knew it was right on the tree line, so I slowly stumbled the half mile or so back to it. My friend found me asleep on the ground outside his tent and finally got me to get up and get in mine. When I awoke, it was to run out of the tent and start vomiting violently. I was poisoned. It was probably the worst pain of my life. I couldn't keep anything down, not even water. Every time I tried to hydrate, I'd hurl. I was hit with intermittent bouts of diarrhea. The porta-shitters were so vile smelling that I'd start to puke while on the can. It came out my nose in large volumes. I couldn't stop puking for about five hours and eventually my friends had to pack my stuff up for me while I laid on the ground puking and writhing in agony. It eventually slowed enough that I asked my girlfriend to drive us the two hours home. On the way I felt like utter hell, but luckily had a bag to hurl in. I was so dehydrated that I didn't start sweating or being able to piss until last night around 9pm.

I'm feeling marginally better today. My body still hates me and I anticipate it will for another day or two. I've decided that I cannot control myself when I drink, and must therefore quit... It was my favorite social drug, but this is it. I cannot handle it. I have to live without it, if anything to prove to myself that I am in control, that I can take care of myself and not bring myself to the brink of death. This is the third, and worst time this has happened. Third time's the charm as they say. Well it damn well better be, because I have a feeling I could die if I ever reached that point again.
 
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^^ Ouch man, that's intense. I got alcohol poisoning really bad this one time when I was 20, I didn't drink again for a year afterwards. I was so sick. I realized I was blacking out routinely and I had no self-control once I started feeling it, I almost always drank too much when I drank (which was never all the time, it's just that when I did drink I lost control). I actually rarely drank after that until the past couple of years. Now I drink again, beer only generally, and I am able to control myself.

Well, it's the last evening with my girlfriend before she goes to California until Christmas. I'll be driving her to the airport late tonight. We've spent all this past week together and it's been awesome, but now I'm feeling pretty sad about her going. I think this yearly separation is a healthy thing, it always brings new vitality to it and it makes me realize how much I appreciate her. Plus then I get to focus 100% on myself and on music for a couple of months. But damn, I think it's gonna keep getting harder. :(

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Omg this is annoying this is the 3rd time ive had to post this and ive had to retype ir out every time.
New girlfriend now. We really like eachother. Aa of last night we are facebook official. I had a date with her all afternoon yesterday, it was the most fun ive had in a while. How do i talk to her about psychs. I tripped last night on 4 tabs and i wanna either trip or roll at the show we are going to at the end of the month.
Shes gothic. Shes different than "normal" people and i like the fact that shes goth. To me it shows shes a unique person. Her dad told her tje other night no guy likes goth chicks last night so i told her to tell her dad that i said i like her more because shes goth.

Let it come up naturally if possible. Does she do any drugs? I wouldn't bring all this stuff up with her too quickly, there's no rush. Though you should find out whether she is for or against drugs since you use them.

Congrats man, I know how much you really, really wanted to find someone. :) My best advice is, be chill, let it happen, don't try to force anything.
 
What's the condition called when someone wakes up when borderline of sleep almost in panic and often doesnt even remember these night episodes?
 
Just got back from the ER, good news is I ain't dying, bad news is they have no idea why my head feels like someone is constantly sticking an ice pick in it. Just went into debt and had drug use put on my medical history for nothing. -,-

Doctor said I have super blood, said Lance Armstrong would trade blood with me any day of the week. He prescribed blood letting, told me to give blood as often as I wanted and it'd probably make me feel a little better. Said that's why my heart has been jumping all over the place when I use caffeine.

Also, apparently I'm the only person in my town that's ever admitted to using ketamine at that hospital. I said K instead of MXE so they'd know wtf I was talking about. They actually sent someone in to make sure I wasn't stealing it from a pharmacy. They didn't believe me when I told them I can buy it off the street whenever I want until I started explaining that I could import it from overseas whenever I wanted too. I don't think many people are honest about what they do in the ER. Only thing I popped positive for on my drug screen was cannabis.

Oh well, guess I'm getting my motorcycle a little later than planned. I'm betting the bill they send is going to be ridiculous since I had a CT scan and chest x-rays. Not looking forward to it coming in the mail. At least I don't have to stress over my brain begin fucked up as much anymore.

Xammy: I got your PM but I've been busy, I'll get back to you as soon as I can.
 
I'm feeling marginally better today. My body still hates me and I anticipate it will for another day or two. I've decided that I cannot control myself when I drink, and must therefore quit... It was my favorite social drug, but this is it. I cannot handle it. I have to live without it, if anything to prove to myself that I am in control, that I can take care of myself and not bring myself to the brink of death. This is the third, and worst time this has happened. Third time's the charm as they say. Well it damn well better be, because I have a feeling I could die if I ever reached that point again.

Oof, that's rough. :S I'm sorry it sucked so much, but I'm glad you're okay. I was reminded of something similarly stupid I did once... which involved taking 23 shots of hard liquor, a few of them over 100 ABV. Miraculously I did not puke and actually had a great time during the drinking itself, but then I went to bed, and the morning came.... I wouldn't wish that level of hangover on anyone. I felt like there was poison squeezing and rotting my brain (which there obviously was). I tried smoking cannabis to help it a bit, and it actually made me delirious and start getting minor hallucinations like from diphenhydramine, while not helping the pain in the slightest. Never again....

I'm totally with you though too. Alcohol was my go to social drug for anything more than just a few stoners, but I had way too many situations on it where I got too out of control, even when I only wanted a couple drinks I would end up pushing further once I started feeling it, so I've called it quits too, no more ever again. Honestly though, we're way better off without it.... Alcohol is toxic as fuck, not only is it dangerous and potentially deadly in high doses but it also just destroys your body over time at any dose, I was reading recently how they've linked something like nine forms of cancer to alcohol use by now, even in moderate amounts. It's total shit really, it's a poison that we all convince ourselves is okay to use just because it's legal and socially acceptable, but the truth is it's one of the most horrible drugs there is. Those are just my thoughts on it anyway.... As much as my brain still occasionally tells me I want it when I see it, I say good fucking riddance.
 
As rich as Trump is, when he talks, argues, debates, anything comes out of his mouth... I can't help but think "My God that man is so unintelligent."

I don't understand this opposition. Wealth doesn't correlate with intelligence at all, in my experience. In fact I've always found that the obscenely wealthy people are often unintelligent. Most people already born in wealthy families never need to put much effort into anything, because they have their future secured. They don't need to educate themselves to "succeed", and many times they never get to know any other reality outside of their little bubble of abundance and economic stability. This kind of ignorance harms empathy and emotional intelligence as well. Sadly this kind of wealthy people own the world and govern the nations, so the poor will be never understood or correctly considered by those in the power. Sadly the wealthier someone is the louder they can speak, so we are endlessly exposed to all kind of ignorant opinions and foolish decisions.

Maybe I have this opinion because I live in a third world country with wild economic differences, ruled by a wealthy class eager to commit all kind of abuses. Excuse my social resentment. I know I'm consciously exaggerating and generalizing.
 
Alcohol is a weird thing. I use it pretty frequently in social situations, it's like, everyone in my band likes to drink beer, and all my friends pretty much, which is what got me started doing it again. I enjoy it too, it's fun and euphoric if you do it right. It certainly is toxic though, gotta watch yourself. I tend to drink at least 4 beers but usually more over the course of the night, but at this point that's nothing much for me, I will feel 100% fine the next day if I have even 8 or 9 beers over, you know, a 6 hour period. It's purely hedonistic, but I'm alright with that.

Headphones, man that's a bummer, although good news that nothing imminently bad is happening. That's crazy they'd send someone to make sure you weren't stealing from a pharmacy just because you admitted to using ketamine. Don't people know you can get pretty much any drug easily these days? Well, I guess not.

I took my girlfriend to the airport and said bye last night... but I had to drop her off at 4am, I didn't get home til 5:45am, then got to sleep by 6:45 and woke up to work at 10. Now I'm relatively sleep-deprived and half-sad, half-happy (happy because we're gonna jam tonight, and I found out we're playing a show Sunday, and my friend and I are going to take DOPr on Saturday), and I have to work. Kinda hard to get my head into the work now, but I just gotta do it.

...After a little Bluelight. =D
 
I don't understand this opposition. Wealth doesn't correlate with intelligence at all, in my experience. In fact I've always found that the obscenely wealthy people are often unintelligent. Most people already born in wealthy families never need to put much effort into anything, because they have their future secured. They don't need to educate themselves to "succeed", and many times they never get to know any other reality outside of their little bubble of abundance and economic stability. This kind of ignorance harms empathy and emotional intelligence as well. Sadly this kind of wealthy people own the world and govern the nations, so the poor will be never understood or correctly considered by those in the power. Sadly the wealthier someone is the louder they can speak, so we are endlessly exposed to all kind of ignorant opinions and foolish decisions.

Maybe I have this opinion because I live in a third world country with wild economic differences, ruled by a wealthy class eager to commit all kind of abuses. Excuse my social resentment. I know I'm consciously exaggerating and generalizing.

I suppose Americans are more likely to correlate wealth with intelligence, because the American ideal is (theoretically) a society in which everyone has an equal opportunity to climb to the top, and the most important factors in wealth are work ethic and ingenuity. Of course it doesn't always work out that way in reality. But many people argue that the U.S. comes closer than any other nation to that ideal.

Alcohol is a weird thing. I use it pretty frequently in social situations, it's like, everyone in my band likes to drink beer, and all my friends pretty much, which is what got me started doing it again. I enjoy it too, it's fun and euphoric if you do it right. It certainly is toxic though, gotta watch yourself. I tend to drink at least 4 beers but usually more over the course of the night, but at this point that's nothing much for me, I will feel 100% fine the next day if I have even 8 or 9 beers over, you know, a 6 hour period. It's purely hedonistic, but I'm alright with that.

Once I tried other GABAergics -- *ahem*, GHB -- it really put alcohol into perspective as a relatively crappy drug. I truly believe that the only reason people use alcohol is because it has such a long history of traditional use, which makes people feel more comfortable with it. I have a night of GHB, I wake up the next morning feeling magically refreshed. I have a night of alcohol, and I wake up feeling groggy and grumpy.
 
I don't understand this opposition. Wealth doesn't correlate with intelligence at all, in my experience. In fact I've always found that the obscenely wealthy people are often unintelligent. Most people already born in wealthy families never need to put much effort into anything, because they have their future secured. They don't need to educate themselves to "succeed", and many times they never get to know any other reality outside of their little bubble of abundance and economic stability. This kind of ignorance harms empathy and emotional intelligence as well. Sadly this kind of wealthy people own the world and govern the nations, so the poor will be never understood or correctly considered by those in the power. Sadly the wealthier someone is the louder they can speak, so we are endlessly exposed to all kind of ignorant opinions and foolish decisions.

Maybe I have this opinion because I live in a third world country with wild economic differences, ruled by a wealthy class eager to commit all kind of abuses. Excuse my social resentment. I know I'm consciously exaggerating and generalizing.

Can you guys view this outside of my country?

http://www.luckytv.nl/time-of-my-life/
 
Alcohol is a weird thing. I use it pretty frequently in social situations, it's like, everyone in my band likes to drink beer, and all my friends pretty much, which is what got me started doing it again. I enjoy it too, it's fun and euphoric if you do it right. It certainly is toxic though, gotta watch yourself. I tend to drink at least 4 beers but usually more over the course of the night, but at this point that's nothing much for me, I will feel 100% fine the next day if I have even 8 or 9 beers over, you know, a 6 hour period. It's purely hedonistic, but I'm alright with that.

I took my girlfriend to the airport and said bye last night... but I had to drop her off at 4am, I didn't get home til 5:45am, then got to sleep by 6:45 and woke up to work at 10. Now I'm relatively sleep-deprived and half-sad, half-happy (happy because we're gonna jam tonight, and I found out we're playing a show Sunday, and my friend and I are going to take DOPr on Saturday), and I have to work. Kinda hard to get my head into the work now, but I just gotta do it.

Yeah, I usually stuck with a bottle of red wine because I knew that that would basically never make me feel bad the next day, but more than that might. It's definitely enjoyable without too much of an immediate drawback if you use it right, but it definitely can add up.... Everything has its risks though, but I feel that my time with alcohol has passed. It was fun to explore when I was new to altered states and never felt too bad afterward, but these days I just don't really get enough out of it compared to what else I have to justify the risks. I certainly have no problem with anyone who continues to use it themselves though!

That sucks about having to say goodbye to your girlfriend for now, but I'm sure the wait will be worth it when you see her again. :) And have a good show! Can't wait to hear your thoughts on the trip either. :D

Once I tried other GABAergics -- *ahem*, GHB -- it really put alcohol into perspective as a relatively crappy drug. I truly believe that the only reason people use alcohol is because it has such a long history of traditional use, which makes people feel more comfortable with it. I have a night of GHB, I wake up the next morning feeling magically refreshed. I have a night of alcohol, and I wake up feeling groggy and grumpy.

I still haven't tried GHB, I really need to one of these days.... I haven't tried too many powerful GABAergics yet, but the ones I had were least far more pleasant than alcohol in that they indeed didn't have really any sort of negative physical effects or a negative effect on my mood or feeling of comfort (by the end of my usage alcohol would often give me anxiety for a week or so afterward). I think carisoprodol might be the best one for me I've tried so far, it gives me sort of a swirly alcohol-like feeling with none of the sickness or hangover, though the last couple times I took it it wasn't as strong....

I totally agree with your view re: people and alcohol though too. I can't imagine why else a drug with so many side effects, fatalities, behavioral problems, and long-term toxicities would become so widely distributed among the mainstream population.... The history combined with the addictiveness just gives it incredible staying power.
 
More than the history just the fact that alcohol is naturally produced and thus can be brewed is a huge staying factor.

I would do so much to be able to try GHB. I've never been able to find it anywhere I look, from online connections to local connections, connections out of state to big time weight pushers who can source most anything else, etc. :sigh:
 
Can you guys view this outside of my country?

http://www.luckytv.nl/time-of-my-life/
Yeah it works here. Gave me a laugh :!

More than the history just the fact that alcohol is naturally produced and thus can be brewed is a huge staying factor.

I would do so much to be able to try GHB. I've never been able to find it anywhere I look, from online connections to local connections, connections out of state to big time weight pushers who can source most anything else, etc. :sigh:
I have no clue where people get it. Boggles my mind when people mention they've even tried it.
 
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