@Kaleida: coincidental about the DOX! I'd say synchronicitous if there wasn't so much superstition surrounding it. Yeah odd that my dad didn't respond so well.. I think that with mushrooms the dose was a little low as I only had pretty isolated effects myself (i.e. mostly threshold, but with a few "anomalies"), with nitrous I suspect he was awkward about it and didn't go all the way. With MDMA he said he didn't notice anything, until he came up very hard all of a sudden, threw up and then went back down again or at least reported only feeling weirdness. He has weirdo genes like I do, only I have additional weirdo genes from the other side of the family but I addressed my issues while he was able to just work the system a bit and just got by as a satisfied loner, probably mind expanding drugs were a little too 'real' for him, although I am not sure why he apparently was fine with LSD when much younger.
My mom said she used to smoke up with my dad (the netherlands after all
), but once ate some hash my dad had lying around while he was away, when I was a baby or infant... she got so freaked out and paranoid and afraid that she would 'do something' to me, hurt me.. that she was just turned off completely. She is a pretty sober-minded self-described dutch cow, I guess it takes a certain kind of mindset to even want to overcome struggles with a tripped out drug-addled mind. I've seen some weird shit but I definitely like managing that kind of challenges and dare I say maybe it can even 'train' a person to keep a grip in general.
Also when I was a kid, once I had a playover and the parents came up to pick my friend and smelled the weed that my parents had grown that was hanging above the cellar stairs and my parents were really embarassed lol.
Ah, that does make sense about the mushrooms and nitrous then, but that is still quite strange about the MDMA! I guess we all are who we are though, I'm sure we all have a little weirdness in us.
I personally seem to have inherited some weird opioid-related genes from my parents.... They're on the exact opposite ends of the scales from each other, my dad gets some euphoria from them but requires huge doses for real pain killing effects, even as recognized by doctors in hospitals, whereas my mom gets no enjoyment from them whatsoever and feels them so strongly that a single dose of some pills will have her uncomfortable and possibly puking, though it definitely helps with her pain as well. As for me, I usually do not either enjoy them or get overly strong pain killing effects from them, but I do get nauseous from one pill. :S I also am pretty sure I inherited some of my mom's chronic pain conditions, so that'll be fun to deal with later in life, but I am hoping that I also inherited something from her that I haven't quite come across in the general population: resistance to opioid withdrawals! I have no explanation for it, but from what I understand this has been going on her whole life (she's been prescribed opioids since her early 20s). I've seen her be prescribed 120 mg of hydrocodone a day for months, and then when the prescription is over and she goes off of them literally the only difference is that suddenly she is much happier and more active, and not complaining about being sedated and foggy. Though, I suppose it could just be because she's already used to some background level of pain as well....
Also, that's funny about your mom with the hash lol. I mean, it's too bad it turned her off from it, but what do you expect from eating that? xD I'm totally with you there though, even when my trips happen to be really sour or uncomfortable I do actually find some comfort in knowing that it's just another obstacle to overcome that will make me a stronger person when it's over. Even cannabis gave me a lot of anxiety for a good stretch of time but I kept smoking it every day anyway, and now I honestly don't think I'll ever be prone to that kind of anxiety again. It is a lot easier to understand how you could freak yourself out about something like that when your child is involved though. But, they were embarrassed about the smell? Isn't it legal there? I've been waiting forever for the laws to change here so that I don't have to give a crap about things like that anymore haha.
Yeah siblings are great, I'm really glad I have them, although when I was young my sister and I had a lot of sibling rivalry (she's 3 years younger than me and I can remember just despising her, not even sure why, probably a competition for attention sort of thing). Once we grew up we started getting along great.
I think some people enjoy doing the standard drugs (weed and alcohol), but that they're never that into drugs... it's just something fun but they don't have a passion for altered states like we do. I know a lot of people that I went to high school with who smoked and drank sometimes, but who stopped doing it after college because for a lot of people, that means it's time to "get serious" and leave that "kid stuff" behind. The idea that psychedelics and weed aren't something a mature adult would do are pretty widespread. My ex, when we got together (first year of college) scoffed at me when I tried to tell her about psychedelics, she said "that stuff's for kids, grow up". Which is really ironic since psychedelics are actually better to use if you ARE grown up. One of my best friends in high school was the biggest pothead among us... he was the first to buy weed and was one of the heaviest smokers I knew. We all went to college, and for Thanksgiving that first year, just 2 months after going off to college (and keep in mind as a sendoff the night before we all went away, his idea was to bake out his car with a massive joint for each person), we all got back together while visiting home. We were like, hey guys, let's smoke. He gave us a serious stinkeye and was like, "do you guys seriously still do that shit? That shit's for kids man, I don't smoke anymore, I grew out of it", and then he proceeded to drink 20 beers that night instead. Apparently at his college that was the prevailing idea, when you get to college you grow up and stop smoking and start drinking. At least among the people he hung out with anyway.
Personally I don't see myself ever "growing out of" psychedelics.
Yeah, it is nice having all of the attention as an only child, haha. I'm pretty sure it also made me a bit more narcissistic than I would have been otherwise though lol. There are definitely times when I would have much rather had someone like that to share some personal things with too.
Embarrassingly, for the rest of the world, those stories you told remind me of elementary school. I remember there was one kid in my group of friends who suddenly stopped liking Pokémon because the initial fad was passing, and I do mean initial, this was like back when it was new and the trading card game was almost as popular as the video games, so there were a lot of kids who at some point were all ready to just move on to the next big thing. However, that friend didn't come up to us and talk about it or anything.... He just one day started acting like Pokémon was for babies, and we should move on. We stopped talking about it for like a couple days, and then I got together with one of my other friends in that group and discussed it.... We ended up going back and telling him he was full of shit and that we still like Pokémon lol. (And we still do!) So, it makes me sad to think that that mindset still carries on into adulthood and even applies to things such as this, but it's not too shocking to me, especially because I'm pretty sure that Pokémon was at least as big a reward to us as kids as those basic drugs are to adults. It does seem like there is some kind of attitude that beyond a certain age you should stop trying to enjoy yourself and just be a hard working adult... which is totally nonsense. I'd rather die than live in a world that had to be like that.
And yeah, like you say, there's always a completely moronic and illogical exception for alcohol as well, the irony of it being that something like drinking 20 beers in a night is possibly one of the most immature things a person can do, and will only make them act even more so. And also like you said, the idea that cannabis and psychedelics are kids stuff is completely ridiculous.... I personally don't even believe that kids should be using cannabis and psychedelics at all, and I'm a little shocked that anyone would, let alone going so far as to make that kind of statement. Just goes to show how little people actually understand any of these things I suppose....
Maybe it's also some sort of projection that just because they "graduated" to drinking, it's the right way to develop for everyone.
If you're really mature, you use viagra.
Like I PMed, although I grew out of seeking really extreme trips and challenging myself to choose a set and setting to make it all extra adventurous, psychedelics are still so therapeutic for me that I'll gladly return to embracing them. Also when I basically quit tripping almost entirely these last year I grew more afraid of it, both because the memory faded including of how benign and alliable they as well as the fear instilled by the really crazy shit like (5-MeO)-DMT.
Hahaha, there is much truth to that. And yeah, I could totally see the projection thing too, people always think their way of growing up is the best.
I feel that way as well. Both that I've become less interested (but not entirely disinterested) in pushing too extreme, I like the hard trips but I don't need overkill for them, and in that when I don't trip for a while I start to remember more the particularly crazy ones. I felt a good bit of anxiety about returning to psychedelics recently as well, since I had stopped except for a couple low doses since February, but now that I've had a couple new trips under my belt I'm already getting excited to the point where it feels like ages waiting for enough time to pass to get another full, refreshing trip without too much tolerance. Especially since this time I am trying essentially (or completely) brand new molecules, I just want to take them all as quickly as possible!
Anyway your family sounds like nice people 
