☮ Social ☮ PD Social Talk Thread: Somatic Swirly Sepia Summer Sausage Stage Set Suppository

[Kaleida]

^ Wow, that blows. I'd love to really hear the full explanation if that's true. It makes me happier about my decision to pretty much limit myself to nitrous only....

 

[Jabberwocky]

many dissociative users end up permanently losing visuals from serotonergic psychedelics. i saw a scientific explanation of it once, but don't remember the details. something about changes in receptor expression and arachidonic acid release...

I'm just one data point in a sea of data points, but visuals are alive and well for me those rare times I trip. even after a period of heavy dissociative use. My recent DPT trip was one of the most visual trips I've ever had. I think time between trips is the biggest factor for intensity of visuals. Some of these new dissociatives get pretty visual for me in a unique kinda way too.

 

[Delsyd]

I've been a pretty heavy dissociative user for almost 10 years now and even small doses of psychs give me visuals.
Maybe I'm just lucky.

 

[Xorkoth]

Yeah me too, I actually find that adding MXE or 3-MeO-PCP makes trips more visual and engrossing.

I wonder if the acid I used to eat when I was younger were the same acid strips around today. I remember them being extremely visual and made me go on journeys to planets of water and seas of people, extremely detailed imaginative landscapes that seemed alive with their own intelligence.
Now the acid is all just a mind-fuck; neon-colors, artificial feel, rollercoaster of emotional fluctuations, and the sensation of extra-sensory perception about other objects rather than morphing hallucinaitons with minds of their own.

mushrooms are better at bringing objects to life, and summoning creatures... Someone once told me there was a variety of acid called "sunshine acid" which was more happy and visual, and the one that goes around more commonly now is a different variant of LSD that's has more of an emotional edge and distorting visual, rather than concrete, almost tangible hallucinations.

LSD is LSD is LSD, there are no variants of it, it's a molecule, or it's not LSD (it's possible you're not getting LSD but something like an NBOMe also). Also, something I've noticed is that my trips have changed since the early days. back in the day, it was all brand new, and my trips were much more intense and visual. Nowadays the psychedelic space is like an old familiar friend, so I get less out there and have less visuals.

Next time i go on a 2 hit trip, i'll stay in-doors and move around very little. The opposite of what I did last time, which was go to town, and be around a lot of people.

Set and setting might be key. It could also be that my mind just changed so much, that it's less prone to creative visuals, and more tuned to detail oriented patterns & emotion/thought control

My favorite way to take it is out in nature. My least favorite way is out in town. I do love social trips with good friends, but those trips never go as deep (or very rarely anyway).

I'm gonna jam later and I'm thinking of taking a half hit of ALD-52 for it. Or maybe a whole one.

 

[Cream Gravy?]

^I dunno Xork. Social trips out at parties and such can be very, very insightful. More like insight into everything around you, rather than the self. I think there's a time and place for social tripping. I usually don't exceed a single tab though in such cases.

 

[Xorkoth]

Yeah I agree, I get lots of insight into others and social dynamics, but it rarely goes to a deep spiritual place is what I meant. But yeah, certainly helpful and enjoyable.

 

[Cream Gravy?]

Hey guys, sorry I waited so long to do this hahah; here are more recent pictures of my beautiful Sunflower! Unfortunately she's on a hunger strike at the moment, hasn't eaten anything in about three months. She'll get over it at some point, it just pisses me off to waste rats by thawing them to feed her, then throwing em out when she acts all picky like a toddler

NSFW:

 

[vortech]

I knkw that I prefer to add disociatives when i trip but only because I can't unknow the synergy. I honestly cant even give a data point because the last time i tripped without some sort of dose of dissociative was years ago. With that said, visual effects are as strong as ever if not more so due to the synergy.

 

[TheAppleCore]

I just want something to bodily pick me up from my life and freeze it so I can't fuck it up anymore. Put me back when I am stable.

I think the trick is to learn to be grateful for what your mistakes teach you. Easier said than done, I know.

I agree with your comment about paying the piper though. Wouldn't it be nice if we could have our cake and eat it too?

What do you think about this band TAC and PD in general?

I agree with one of the comments on the video:

I can feel my beard growing while listening to this

:D

 

[Blue_Phlame]

do you use dissociatives at all, BP? many dissociative users end up permanently losing visuals from serotonergic psychedelics. i saw a scientific explanation of it once, but don't remember the details. something about changes in receptor expression and arachidonic acid release...

There was a few years where I was on SSRIs, so that may have changed my neurology. I haven't touched them in over 7 years, but have used other pharma like hydroxyzine and light doses of other OTC antihistamines. While I have used dissociatives in the past, they were far in-between and rare. Mostly dxm, mxe and some other rcs.
I'm thinking I should abstain from all serotonergic drugs for 1 month and see if that makes a difference for my next 2 hit trip.

 

[Blue_Phlame]

Yeah me too, I actually find that adding MXE or 3-MeO-PCP makes trips more visual and engrossing.

Can you describe your visuals? I got visuals too, but not what I remember the first few times I did 'cid.
There was nothing that I could examine and physically draw with a pen that wasn't that much different from my regular vision, albeit distorted and mostly mental.

LSD is LSD is LSD, there are no variants of it, it's a molecule, or it's not LSD (it's possible you're not getting LSD but something like an NBOMe also). Also, something I've noticed is that my trips have changed since the early days. back in the day, it was all brand new, and my trips were much more intense and visual. Nowadays the psychedelic space is like an old familiar friend, so I get less out there and have less visuals.

The only variants that come to mind are the others people have already mentioned like ALD-52, but there may be batches of LSD that might not have been developed very efficiently and may have different effects from batch to batch. Impurities if you will.
I've had NBOMe before a few times, so I can tell the difference between those kinds of effects.

According to the psychonaut wiki, there are similar compounds like 1p-lsd, which it does state is rare and unlikely that it is being circulated.
https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/1P-LSD

My favorite way to take it is out in nature. My least favorite way is out in town. I do love social trips with good friends, but those trips never go as deep (or very rarely anyway).

I'm gonna jam later and I'm thinking of taking a half hit of ALD-52 for it. Or maybe a whole one.

Good luck and have fun.

 

[coelophysis]

I've been a pretty heavy dissociative user for almost 10 years now and even small doses of psychs give me visuals.
Maybe I'm just lucky.

I'm the exact same way for roughly the same amount of time.
Luck or maybe we're just the enchanted type or something like that, or maybe that's the same shit.
Sup, you? I know you felt my presence through my bestie

 

[yepyepwoah]

I knkw that I prefer to add disociatives when i trip but only because I can't unknow the synergy. I honestly cant even give a data point because the last time i tripped without some sort of dose of dissociative was years ago. With that said, visual effects are as strong as ever if not more so due to the synergy.

Samesies. Dissos help reign in the craziness that cant be unleashed in this civilozed world. Pr maybe the other eay. Wont trip withpit em tho.

I have never got visuals for shit though really. No wavy lines, I usually skip straight to some visionary shit

 

[xammy]

would be fun to know how many mgs of 3meo i took yesterday

 

[Crashing]

Wow Xork your town is fucking beautiful. Thanks for the awesome weekend - we really had a great time we wont soon forget, and Id love to cross paths again sooner than later. What a great healthy energy your community has created, the place really is one of a kind!

Only thing i really miss back home is my meo and aco which ill hopefully get a little funky on when we land. Cant hide my inner druglove.

 

[xammy]

Amazing 3-MeO-PCP party with my new girlfriend and all of my closest friends. I drank, vaporized weed and took some speed too.

3meo and speed seem to work really well together, the mania is real tough!

 

[vortech]

Thumbs up guys for some peak experiences and connecting on closer levels. Xorkoth, Xammy and I were talking about visiting Ashville as well. It is currently #3 in top 3 places I want to visit, and possibly live.

I'm currently camping by the major creek of my town, beautiful forest vibes. Basically I am 'Roy' gone off grid right now, but I still have some mobile data and am very close bike ride to town. Feels a little deja vu because I camped for about a month this time last year. The weather is just too nice, and the healing forest spirit calls me. It was raining a lot the last few days though so I stayed at a friends house, and it was a lot of goodness.

 

[vortech]

The best upgrade over last year is a portable speaker that has great amplitude and frequency response for its size. Listening to tribal world trance, psy-breaks and psy-step, with some funk, glitch and folk elements, as a broad term for the variety of tunes I have loaded to help create a spiritually-activated space inside my tent.
At a certain time in the evening however I like to just listen to the music of the forest, all the creatures together in resonanating harmony. I hope to get some good audio recording of it this year.

 

[yepyepwoah]

I meant to get up early and go hiking today. Then come.back and see what this 5 apb is all abou. I am at my brothers while he is gone, its so nice and quiet up here. I might just dose the 5apb around sunset and walk around on the comeup. Or maybe jist nox the drugs and read the second sword of truth book.

Finally feeling so nice outside. I hate good camping weather coincides woth hunting season. Its a real bummer.

I started picking up a few extra shifts and a different location of the company I work at. I get a text at 10am from xxxx asking me to cover 11am-5pm for them. "No, thanks for waking me up though. I dont even know who you are"

A request like that on a Sunday morning better start with "Hey I know you are probably hungover too, I got $50-$75 on it if you cover my shift" fucking amateurs.

 

[vortech]

I will say though that my choice of camping space is much more refined than last year. Getting to and from both sides of town requires less energy, I am much closer to the creek so I think I'm getting those negative ions from the running water to help create a sense of well-being (look it up if you don't know what I am talking about, it's cool stuff- the negative ions can neutralize everything from mold spores to bacteria and viruses, as well as negate the positive ions that create free radicals in the body). I also have a fallen tree right next to my tent that is the perfect height for sitting and relaxing. I just met a nice dude who was fishing not far from my site.

Anyway just wanted to share my therapeutic nature experience. It has been much needed since I have been basically sober the last 4 weeks after a ridiculous series of events, some of which I recounted last night on the big and dandy 3meo thread. I'm also tapering off suboxone, my third attempt at getting off so I can be free of these chains and move through the country without worrying about BS. I have a small amount of both kratom and tianeptine for when I jump off. Third time is a charm though eh?