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Regional Pills/MD(M)A Discussion v. PM(dma)T

MiniNapalm said:
That sounds very promising Boa 

Further to STC's previous posts, here's the first pill report for the defqon successors, the kit-kats: http://www.pillreports.net/index.php?page=display_pill&id=36429
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I hope I'm wrong but I'm sceptical about these kitkats being the same quality as the defqons supposedly are. The report states the high lasted 1.5 hours, which is pretty unremarkable in my books (4-6 hours anyone?) from circa 130mg MDMA. Granted though, we don't know any of the other variables that could be at play.
 
From what I see the kitkats aren't the successors they are just another option from the NL / q dance lot. IE lower dose at supposed 140 mg prob more like 120 and just being pitched as alternative for low to medium tolerance running alongside the Defqons and the ace of spades. Defqons are the Burger King replacement. Listed as 200mg tested by a centre at 190 ish.

That BK press ran for 9 months or at least they produced enough availabilty and altered colours etc.

Q dance apparently did bitcoins gold bars and androids. Found the bitcoins and gold to not be that good TBH. Never tried a BK but reports suggest a reall heavy hitter, at 240 mg they surely would be!!
 
I think they are the successor as they have the NL stamped in a little circle like the defqons did, just like how checkpoint puts CP on the back, just another way to show it isn't a copycat and they probably ran the BK ones so long and waited for the defqons to come out for festival season, well that's what I'd do it would be a perfect gimmick, especially if you were going to defqon. I've not seen any other pills with the NL stamped into them.

The user states that the peak lasted 1.5 hours, now we don't know if they roll every weekend? How often they roll etc do tolerance might be higher and many other factors, the comments suggest it is the same pressed, but time will tell, my mate is getting some and will be trialling them soon =D

Someone is right in the comments how they look just like the Bugatti slapped press and they were real nice, them and the OG dominoes
 
Itsgoneundertheboa said:
Defqons

Marquis - instant a gourgeous deep dark purple

Mandelin - dark blue initial black 10 seconds.

Mecke - instant intense green 10 seconds changes to a royal blue

Liebermann - instant intense brown changing to black

Froehde - instant black changing to show dark blue

Gallic acid - brown instant then green 13 seconds turning back to brown in 46 seconds. There is a theory that the reaction of brown to green to brown in this time line shows presence of left over safferole from synth - don't flame me I'm just quoting safe4test.

Simons - blue instant.

Laymans terms best results I've ever seen. Clarity of colours, changes are very clear and very fast / instant. No other colourations seen in margins of reagent.

Remember this was one pill tested of a certain batch. Always test your own to make sure.

I'd say these bad boys are looking very promising. Consumption will have to wait for suitable time and place.
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These are up there with 02/03pills
For sure rush after rush i love mdma i love the chemistry mm spakad
 
The defqons I bought 3-4 weeks ago are crap. Marquis went black. This aft on an empty stomach I've started with 2/3 n waited N hour. Did another half n Felt slightly more awake but not in a good mood. Just dropped a pink nipple from months back n I'm flying ? Would like to send these defqons to be tested as still have 2.5 left any info on how to do so much appreciated x
 
Mooley said:
The defqons I bought 3-4 weeks ago are crap. Marquis went black. This aft on an empty stomach I've started with 2/3 n waited N hour. Did another half n Felt slightly more awake but not in a good mood. Just dropped a pink nipple from months back n I'm flying �� Would like to send these defqons to be tested as still have 2.5 left any info on how to do so much appreciated x
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Unlucky sir.

http://www.wedinos.org/
 
Yeah pissed off they look the bizz, big white chunks marquis ok. Guess I've been unlucky but pink nip has kicked in hard so all is not lost ?
 
Mooley said:
The defqons I bought 3-4 weeks ago are crap. Marquis went black. This aft on an empty stomach I've started with 2/3 n waited N hour. Did another half n Felt slightly more awake but not in a good mood. Just dropped a pink nipple from months back n I'm flying �� Would like to send these defqons to be tested as still have 2.5 left any info on how to do so much appreciated x
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Send them me and I'll send you a selfie?
 
I had a defqon on Friday night, in fact I had two (spaced 4 hours apart....probably) because I'm a greedy pig. How anyone can come on here and type when they are on one defies logic. Maybe nobody does. I was stuck on a Spotify playlist I wasn't particularly enamoured with a) because I couldn't see fuck all to manage to change the playlist and b) I didn't particularly care anyway.

I'm amazed they haven't tested for at least a small amount of MDA in with the MDMA. I haven't been so spannered (or blinded) for years. Big smiles, lots of (probably bullshit, please don't play the tape back) chat.

Recommended.
 
StoneHappyMonday said:
I had a defqon on Friday night, in fact I had two (spaced 4 hours apart....probably) because I'm a greedy pig. How anyone can come on here and type when they are on one defies logic. Maybe nobody does. I was stuck on a Spotify playlist I wasn't particularly enamoured with a) because I couldn't see fuck all to manage to change the playlist and b) I didn't particularly care anyway.

I'm amazed they haven't tested for at least a small amount of MDA in with the MDMA. I haven't been so spannered (or blinded) for years. Big smiles, lots of (probably bullshit, please don't play the tape back) chat.

Recommended.
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Jealous.
I havent had MDMA since about 2003.
E never was my favourite, but in the right setting, that sounds pretty lovely, i just cant be bothered trying to chase these things up.
Damn you brits and your diverse, cheap and apparently fairly high quality drug market.
Never really experienced MDA, but i'm pretty fascinated by it.

I guess i'll have to settle for harvesting my big juicy san pedro before i move, as a last-trip-for-while with some very dear friends.
 
ABPI_ said:
Found this video quite interesting, a company promoting their new rotary press by getting it to spit out dutch pills (Chupas, UPS, Gold Bars, Nintendos, YouTubes)

Still wondering how they got hold of these pressing plates though, they must use commercial companies who sell on the press straight away or release it to the public, quite a fine machine I must say.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4zjomVI_VM

mr ghosty!

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Yeah seen them on a well known auction site for fuck all and I was wondering how they I about getting them and I reckon they have to put in an order of "xx amount" for them to justify making a press in that shape. So they do and as we've seen they pump them out by the millions so they order however many they need to, like let's say the company will make say 10,000 if they buy 50% of them then the other 50% end up on sites online. End of the day it's not illegal to have a Warner brothers, YouTube, adidas dye etc just like its legal to sell cannabis growing gear, only illegal when you use it for that.

Well that's my theory anyway they agree to buy 50% of the minimum order required and the other 50% don't get released for another month or 2, that could be why we are seeing various copies of the same stamp eg. Don perignons, Harley Davidsons, bugattis, Warner brothers etc because it wasn't cost efficient constantly buying new dyes all the time. But like I said that's just my theory I could be a mile out like... The other theory is of course corruption, everyone has a price and everyone wants a slice of the big cake and as they say, if you can't beat them join them.
 
Sounds like everyone had a blast on the Defqons, except one! Mine are apparently the real deal, friend dropped a full and loved it. All I really got out of him was "the rushes".

I also never can work out how people can drop MD and then post stuff on the Internet. Last thing I want to do TBH. Even if I can see straight. All out Stims of course but MD I like to get out IRL. I've only ever taken MD at home once and that was due to an abort of a rave I went to alone, I realised it was a little too deep Gabba Techno with a heavy presence of far right. Couldn't see myself giving out hugs and love got out of dodge fast.

Pill press dies - the Chinese can manufacture a mould from a picture in days for peanuts. Like literally peanuts. They are extremely keen on tooling metal parts. I know of 2 cities in China which specialise Huagyan (plastic moulds) and Yuyao. You find that cities in China do specialise to a certain craft or trade, even prostitution (or at least did until they were purged 2014 and closed down, 30000 ladies rounded up in Dongguan and sent to re integration camps).

The question is how usable they would be. Rest assured there will be some unscrupulous fella feeding his dye makers with details in China. If you actually consider the fact they openly sell this does mean there is a market for them, likely however they create the market by using crap metal IE they don't last long so they get return business.

This is why it's a very good reason to measure dimensions and weights of pills and report them. Likely a fake press will be based on drawings and will not be accurate to the original. This bit tends to be missed on PR but actually it's as important as testing if your trying to resource a specific pill type.

Also there are various methods to press, those dyes are singles made for very manual production. It's why the two tone coloured pills are becoming more prevalent. Much harder to copy by simple single press stamps, or at least very laborious.

This will scare you all as to how easy it is

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=t4zjomVI_VM
 
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Itsgoneundertheboa said:
I know of 2 cities in China which specialise Huagyan (plastic moulds) and Yuyao. You find that cities in China do specialise to a certain craft or trade,
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And in Vietnam, the streets of Hanoi also specialise in a trade per street. I have no doubt you could get the same results in Hanoi with the right contacts.
 
Just bought in a nice personal stash of PMK oil - made MDMA, tested by Energy Control at 93% purity. Interestingly, it is a medium cola colour and smells so strongly of safrole you can almost smell it through the bag. I initially thought the strong smell could be caused by remaining precursor and expected my gear to be damp/oily with a smell like that. But nope...completely dry. Appears to crush up lovely too.

I won't be trying for a good few weeks though as I have a busy schedule and I want to give the old serotonin time to regenerate. Especially after the MDA battering I have it a few weeks ago. However, I am feeling pretty hopeful that this may be a return to the rushy and empathetic MD of old. Got talking to my usual DNM MD vendor, and he said there is gradually a shift occurring with the shift to PMK made MDMA. Many people have been complaining of mongy/weak MD. It isn't just us...we aren't going mad.
 
I ended up making the same mistake a few others have made with the Red Defqons. I was impatient at waiting around 2 hours for the first one to kick in so I took a 2nd. Then I stupidly ate a 3rd for some unknown reason and I had to sit down in the medical tent for a bit. I ran out of there in a state of euphoric bliss. I even stole the pen they gave me to write down my details, which was impossible. Extreme rushes, euphoria and empathy. Highest I've ever been, and the euphoria was something else. These are special, just be patient. I think I ended up being high for over 6 hours. Hard to sleep after a night on these, but most fun I've had in ages.
 
Well, if SHM of all people found them to be special, then that seals it. I had them again last night. Initially dropped alone, but ended up seeking out mates to join, because I felt too sociable to be alone. Still got a smile on my face today. I know exactly what you mean about the MDA thing, SHM. Every time I've taken them I've ended up in a right state.

Shame to hear about a copycat batch, but I'm fairly certain they're still about, if you buy from the right person...
 
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