Mental Health Coming Off Invega Sustenna (Paliperidone) v.2

[Gdvffh]

How long were you on psychiatric drugs koz23. Maybe those drugs made you manic

 

[Koz26]

How long were you on psychiatric drugs koz23. Maybe those drugs made you manic

Its possible that the combination of Adderall, caffeine and the natural high I got from winning my 2nd professional mma match led to my manic state and psychosis. Although I had a depressive psychosis when I was in the military at age 19...I'm 25 now...And I wasn't on any psych drugs at that time. Or any drugs for that matter. I wasn't even allowed to drink coffee most days. That's why it's so difficult for me to discern whether or not I truly have Bipolar Type 1.

But to answer your question more specifically, if you consider ADHD meds "psych drugs" then I was on psychiatric medications for 4 years. But I have only been recently introduced to mood stabilizers, SSRI's and antipsychotics within this past year.

 

[unexpected175]

@ Koz26 I took Prozac (or citalophram which is like basically the same stuff) too and it didn't really affect me too much, I was on zoloft too which is pretty similar and again nothing, it just delays your orgasm response mechanism. So basically it just makes it so you can last longer, which honestly is not that bad. I was also on seroquel pretty high dosage 300 mg for like a year or 2 and again nothing happened to me with regards to erections or anything like that it just this damn invega has such an interaction with dopamine. @ joey 2358, I'm pretty sure it had to be pills I don't think they offer that in liquid injectable form.

But yeh Joey, I'm glad you saw the point of why i posted that 5 year prozac story, I mean the point I'm trying to make is whatever chemical interactions are brains and bodies are gonna have with this stuff, is done, its in the past and we just gotta be on good behavior for the rest of our lives so we don't EVER get shot up with that stuff again. More importantly though the main point I was trying to make is to not psych ourselves out, panic, and let these side effects effect our mood. I know its hard right now only 3-4 months in but the best days are ahead of us, they HAVE TO BE. A reasonable amount of people said they start feeling better around 7-10 months, so around Christmas or New years, we should be able to evaluate ourselves and see a big improvement to how we were feeling earlier on day 1 of this shit earlier this year.

Keep your head up man, were gonna get thru this.

 

[Stormrage]

We will survive

 

[Gdvffh]

Yeah man add drugs cause psychosis, eere you on Adderall? First they put out on drugs that give u illness, then they claim it's you not the drugs. I can guarantee those add drugs did it to you

 

[iridescentblack]

Yeah man add drugs cause psychosis, eere you on Adderall? First they put out on drugs that give u illness, then they claim it's you not the drugs. I can guarantee those add drugs did it to you

ADD meds caused --> depression: depression meds caused --> bipolar: bipolar meds caused --> mood swings and mixed states and pyschosis: psychosis went too long untreated, resulting in --> schizophrenia

^ At least that was my experience, anyway.

However, I have reason to believe whatever mental problem has caused some of my issues is something I was born with... or maybe I've been led to believe so. But, high IQ, low test scores and poor academic record otherwise? You could say I was probably "born to be a schizophrenic".

 

[Joey2358]

ADD meds caused --> depression: depression meds caused --> bipolar: bipolar meds caused --> mood swings and mixed states and pyschosis: psychosis went too long untreated, resulting in --> schizophrenia

^ At least that was my experience, anyway.

However, I have reason to believe whatever mental problem has caused some of my issues is something I was born with... or maybe I've been led to believe so. But, high IQ, low test scores and poor academic record otherwise? You could say I was probably "born to be a schizophrenic".

Do you feel better.... Do you think your problems are permanent like Aidens.

 

[Aiden21]

Has anyone tried any ssri's after invega sustenna? And if so, did it work? Or any hallucinages and if so did they work?

 

[iridescentblack]

Do you feel better.... Do you think your problems are permanent like Aidens.

Feel better? Yes, I guess. 'Better than the first few months on or even off Invega Sustenna.

Permanent? Idk. In my religion schizophrenia is a vice, not a disease.

 

[PhuckInvegga]

Yeah I feel the same way. I feel much better than how I did 2-3 months ago, and way better than I did 8 months ago when I first got it. I do see the light at the end of the tunnel but how far exactly is the end of this tunnel is the question. Which leaves all of us muttering "Fuckin fuckity fuck". But after so long you just completely accept it. More and more you forget about the life your missing, which is good but pretty sad when you think about it. Kinda like we are fish out of water. We wait for the tide to rise enough for us to swim back into the ocean of life.... I can definitely feel the water levels rise at month 7. I would even say I'm swimming again but only in the shallow parts. I am content, but nowhere near able to party and drink or run, study or engage mentally in the moment. My frontal lobe and pineal gland and everywhere else from which my powers came, are still very much debilitated. Very tragic case for all of us. However I do find enough energy to surf at times which is a great improvement. Very fun sport which makes you forget your working out your arms. (Especially the shoulders where the depot injection is stored).. Living at the beach is my #1 advice to anyone newly introduced to this poison. Relax. Be thankful as you continue to expect much greater things to come every 4 months garunteed. Get a job save money that way your life is atleast growing in a financial sense.

 

[Invegaman]

I'm pretty sure my dick is dead since taking Invega, it's shrunk and I haven't taken it in 5 months. I pray that this shit is somehow going to redeem itself.

 

[Joey2358]

I'm pretty sure my dick is dead since taking Invega, it's shrunk and I haven't taken it in 5 months. I pray that this shit is somehow going to redeem itself.

Invegaman, your not alone... I hope to God we heal... This is like hell on earth.... We all should gang up and get compensation.... Those bastards took away our health. And we need our health back.... I'm sure we will eventually heal... People inject heroin into their muscles and that drug leaves the body.... I'm sure there will come a time when Invega eventually leaves the system... I just want to be able to run again but I can't..... My doctor sucks he said there is no way to check for Invega in the blood but I know that's false... I'm sure there have been people that have fully healed but don't post it. Is it permanent? who knows. All I know is those that created this horrible drug need to take their own poisen and see how it feels.

 

[NotAPsycho]

Invegaman, your not alone... I hope to God we heal... This is like hell on earth.... We all should gang up and get compensation.... Those bastards took away our health. And we need our health back.... I'm sure we will eventually heal... People inject heroin into their muscles and that drug leaves the body.... I'm sure there will come a time when Invega eventually leaves the system... I just want to be able to run again but I can't..... My doctor sucks he said there is no way to check for Invega in the blood but I know that's false... I'm sure there have been people that have fully healed but don't post it. Is it permanent? who knows. All I know is those that created this horrible drug need to take their own poisen and see how it feels.

People inject heroin into their veins, not their muscles. Lol. But I agree that doctors need a taste of their own medicine. I often fantasize about that. If they knew how these meds affect people, they would surely be more hesitant to prescribe them.

 

[Koz26]

I don't really blame the doctors. Of course there are some bad doctors...just like in any other profession...cops, teachers, etc. But for the most part they are just going based off what it says in the medical literature because the information in there is supposed to be all research-based. The problem lies not with the doctors who are simply trying to help their patients as best they can based on information presented in the medical literature. Rather, it lies with the faulty and biased research being done on these drugs, with inaccurate results that end up published in medical journals. Things like "Invega causes lethargy in less than 10% of people who receive the injection." That's clearly a skewed statistic. I have known dozens of people who were administered antipsychotics at some point in their lives and every single person said the APs made them feel tired and fatigued...a.k.a. lethargic.

 

[NotAPsycho]

Not to mention the pharmaceutical reps that push the drugs like crack dealers, telling the doctors exactly what to say to their patients so they'll take it. The doctors don't pay the slightest attention to what side effects the drug may cause, nor do they care because they aren't taking it. Plus they get kickbacks if they sell the stuff.

 

[Koz26]

Not to mention the pharmaceutical reps that push the drugs like crack dealers, telling the doctors exactly what to say to their patients so they'll take it. The doctors don't pay the slightest attention to what side effects the drug may cause, nor do they care because they aren't taking it. Plus they get kickbacks if they sell the stuff.

Im gonna have to respectfully disagree. I don't believe all doctors are evil and careless when it comes to treating patients.

 

[Koz26]

I feel like I'm playing devils advocate in a lot of my posts by defending doctors and psychiatric medications...but make no mistake, Invega did seriously mess up my life and make me suicidal for a long time. I just don't think it's a good idea to make a broad-sweeping generalization that ALL doctors and psych drugs are terrible. Try not to let "one" poor decision a doctor made to give you a shot of "one" really harmful "medication" cause you to lose faith in all doctors and all medicines. It's just like saying all cops are racist because you have a bad experience with one extremely racist cop.

The reason I am even arguing this point is that certain medications have undoubtedly helped me get through this difficult recovery process. Certain medications helped me get out of bed in the morning when Invega was trying to keep me tied to it. There might be a medication that can help you, or a doctor that would do anything and everything they can to try and help you. Don't lose hope in medical care completely just because of this poison. Invega has given all of us many stressors to deal with over these last several months. Let's not allow it to also give us a cynical world view on top of it.

 

[unexpected175]

Yeh I have to agree with Koz26. In certain situation for sure, you know you are being lied to, other times you feel you are being lied to because it feeds your narrative and reenforces what you want to believe about a particular situation because you want to feel like you have some closure. But the point that's essential here is to not lose hope and like Koz26 said, become cynical. Don't give up and let this poison bring you down by killing your hormones and lead to disastrous consequences. Go see a psychiatrist, shop around until you get one that feels like a friend, like someone you can open to, and most importantly, from a bottom line perspective, will hook you up with the damn meds that can counteract this kinda stuff and get you more active so you can pump this shit out faster or at least produce some dopamine to make you feel better! Concerta and Welbutrin are great choices to discuss with you doctor Concerta worked for me Welbutrin didn't in my case but everyones different, And definitely try a mood stabilizer so you don't get to revved up or unable to sleep from the Concerta or Welbutrin, or heck just so you don't think about this shit too much. Try depakote or Lamictal both have very low if any sexual side effect profiles and aren't super hard to taper if you feel uncomfortable. seroquel worked for me too and i took it at 300 mg for almost 2 years and i don't recall anything like invega sexual side effects, and if there were any side effects they literally went away after like 2 weeks of taper, the only thing is it's a little harder to taper and it gives you a monstrous appetite.

I just want every one to get better so we can all go out again for a night on the town with our buddies and go dancing with girls into the late hours of the morning that was the best, there was nothing more fun than that for sure, but hey think of it this way, if any of you guys had really active life chasing girls previously, now you won't be distracted, because at the end of the day money's pretty crucial like for surviving and living a comfortable life. it doesn't make you happy but being without it sure as hell will. Girls are nice but at the end of the day you gotta take care of yourself and (I hope everyone has someone out there they can call family an aunt an uncle a cousin) just try and be with your family, thats what gotten me thru these first HORRIBLE 3 and a half months, but hey its getting much better, it really just the sexual side effects and the working out, but the working out has gotten a little bit better for sure. I certainly don't have that muscle weakness any more where I can't push myself past 1 set and die after 8-10 minutes. I kick box I swim in the ocean with my boogie board, I play tennis with a buddy of mine, I do yoga, I lift weights I do cardio classes I stretch every night b4 i go to bed and when I wake up I eat fruits and veggies High fiber high potassium and WATER!!! cashews almonds nuts onions Garlic ginger beet carrots sauerkraut is really good for you spinach kale brusell sprouts pineapple watermelon I could go all day but I just wanted to list some things that i know for a FACT will improve and speed up your recovery process.

But the most important step to one's recovery process is all about their attitude and their optimism, remain optimistic and keep your head up guys, were gonna get through, a lot of people have I wish every one good luck and good night

 

[Joey2358]

Has anyone been off it for 3 years.... I feel strongly that this med eventually comes out of the system.... For the first 2 months my vision was blurry... Now my vision is no longer blurry... I'm I still recovering? It's been 4 months... The only thing I can't do is get a natural erection and exercise... Does this nightmare eventually end? Aiden hasn't fully recovered after 2 years. Could it be that it will take him 3 years to fully heal. When will I be able to loose weight... I can't loose weight no matter how hard I try.

 

[Joey2358]

Never mind I think it might be permanent. Someone on YouTube said they got it 3 years ago and haven't fully recovered.... I hope to God it eventually leaves the system... Who knew how many shots he had.