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RAW Opium poppy pods

I've had visuals from smoked weed and edibles.
Mainly edibles though, as i smoked heavily for a long time, and have been using cannabis for almost 20 years.
 
Can I just state that I am NOT using dried pods, these are fresh from the garden. I'm told that this will make a big difference when coming to dosing.

If I was to make a tea out of FRESH pods what weight am I looking at, as a regular user of Codeine and Dihydrocodeine?

Cheers.
 
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I tried the following method to little or no effect.

Picked 3 medium sized 1" across poppy pods, ground up to a pulp using a pestle and mortar, then simmered on the lowest heat (not even close to boiling) for 20 minutes. Finally I strained the mixture through a sieve and drank the final product.
 
I'm surprised at how little info there is regarding fresh pods on the internet. Plenty on dry but never fresh. Strange.
 
I have some experience using fresh poppies partly when traveling to Washington on the San Juan islands. They grow like weeds over their and can spread from peoples houses onto the sides of the roads or even into the forest. Now first thing is you want to be sure what you have are actual opium poppies. They could be oriental poppies or corn poppies or even Icelandic poppies. Some corn poppies look slightly similar to the red opium poppies. If your poppies have orange flowers they are most likely California poppies are even more likely to be the oriental poppies. Those would be no good.

Some varieties of the Papaver somnifurum var paeoniflorum can be rather mild though still very active at higher doses. I have never made a tea of fresh opium poppies and not felt a narcotic effect. When using fresh poppies I usually ran across the small Papaver somnifurum peony poppies. They are mostly pink with ruffled flowers but can also very in color. These usually require ten plus pods. Now if I ran across the hungarian blue purple poppies these were medium sized and 3-5 fresh pods in a blender then simmered/strained caused a strong narcotic effect. Danish flag opium poppies are also strong in my book if raised properly.

Next it can all be dependent on how they are grown and if you pick them during a dry or rainy period. Try to avoid picking during a rainy period if possible. Poppies grown in hot dry stressed sandy soils can be very strong. The strongest poppies I ever used were growing in a rocky sandy driveway with no external watering besides the natural rain cycles. They most likely would have been the classic white persian poppy. The P som var lacticum varieties can also be somewhat mild. Have you double checked with some pictures on google. Never depend on the color of the poppy flower and depend instead on the look of the leaves/entire plant for an ID.
 
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Depending on the weight of dried poppies to tell specific potency only works after you have established the generalized activity of each batch you order and after the dried poppies have been ground and throughly mixed. Otherwise they can vary significantly from batch to batch and even from pod to pod.
 
Fresh poppies are fine.
Blend them up into goop. Mix with liquid and choke it down.
Read my post on the first page - you dont need heat; there's really nothing to it.

If you're talking ~1 inch sized pods, i used to dose 5-7 to maintain.
Be warned though, this is a very difficult substance to gauge the potency of.
 
Fresh poppies are fine.
Blend them up into goop. Mix with liquid and choke it down.
Read my post on the first page - you dont need heat; there's really nothing to it.

If you're talking ~1 inch sized pods, i used to dose 5-7 to maintain.
Be warned though, this is a very difficult substance to gauge the potency of.

Hey thanks, didn't notice the first post, sorry.

Have a mixture of Tazmanian purple, blue peony, persian white and a couple others.

I will try blending 1 - 2 up and go from there.

Thanks again.
 
Depending on the weight of dried poppies to tell specific potency only works after you have established the generalized activity of each batch you order and after the dried poppies have been ground and throughly mixed. Otherwise they can vary significantly from batch to batch and even from pod to pod.

These are grown fresh, hence why I specifically mentioned fresh and not dry.
 
Hey thanks man! If possible could you give me a little more info on how you prepared your drink of choice from fresh poppies.

Thanks again.
 
I used to get some fruit juice - citrus, or whatever taste you prefer.
Poppies are very bitter, so some kind of acidic fruit juice can help take some of the edge off the bitterness. (orange, grapefruit or lemon were my preferred types - usually grapefruit, but it's not really important). Whether you squeeze in a fresh lemon, and mix with water (tastes really good on summer day!) - or buy a bottle of fruit juice...whatever helps you drink that stuff down, just go with that.

I'd stick the pods in a blender with some juice. Sort of like all the trendy green smoothies people drink for health benefits at the moment - but to get high.

I would usually pour the contents of the blender (juice and the fibrous poppy pod material) through a strainer, into a bowl.
I'd drink maybe half of it - or a glassful or whatever seems a safe starting dose - to see how strong it was. Over an hour or two you'll get a feel for it, but IME it can take up to 3 hours to reach maximum levels of intoxication - so start low and titrate up if needed.
Just beware that it can take a while to really feel the full effects, so until you've found your 'sweet spot', be careful.
Trust me - you don't want to consume too much pod "tea" - you'll be sick for one or two whole days at least - bedridden, headaches, vomiting; pretty severe sickness that goes on for a long time, and obviously could be fatal, especially if you take any other CNS depressants (benzos, booze, other opiates, etc) with it.
I had some really horrible experiences being too complacent about dosing pod tea, and got very, very sick a couple of times. Also, if you have a bit too much, it can give you a pretty nasty hangover.

Just be aware that the effects are fairly unique - you dose it orally, come up quite slowly, and it's not like shooting smack in the way it hits you. It's more of a drawn-out experience.

Once you have an idea how strong the liquid is - you can test out washing down the pod "grinds"; the stuff you filtered out of the mix.
People call this "toss and wash" or something. Like how some people dose kratom - put the grinds in your mouth, then wash them down with the tea.
For me this was the most efficient way of using pods, and you lose nothing in extraction, it's quick, easy - and the fibre of the pods helps with the tendency of opiates to slow your digestive processes (ie less constipation).

I tried all the methods of heating and straining pods (dry and fresh) - i was hooked on them for years.
I used to grow them, pick them in random places, grow patches of them in untended areas of soil.
And after years of fucking around with different methods i found that blending up the pods, and just basically washing down the grinds with juice or water to be the most efficient method.

I grew to like the taste of fresh pods in fruit juice, and considered them a treat at harvest time. Just a good, simple highly addictive natural drug.
Glad to be free of that habit. But damn, i loved pods. Long lasting, euphoric. I was really into them.

Also - i don't personally think there is a huge difference in potency of dried vs fresh pods.
Per weight - perhaps, but like mushrooms or something, i think the percentage of actives per pod shouldn't vary too much whether dry or fresh. in my experience anyway. You may find otherwise.
 
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Thank you so much for this reply, fantastic read and well thought out. It's so much appreciated.

Quick recap on a few things.

When blended with juice a fair amount of the pods aren't blended up at all, you say you filter out the unblended fibrous parts of the pod or do you consume them with the first drink?
I had tried blending 3 small-medium sized pods with fruit juice and just consuming the contents of the blender, this was very difficult but also didn't result in any high at all.

Last thing how many pods do you roughly start off with? I understand the huge variances in potency and ones personal tolerance.
 
I drank the drink to get a feel for the potency (if it gets you high, save the rest for another day) - then washed the grinds down, as you would do swallowing a pill.
ie put the ground up pods in your mouth and wash down with water/juice/tea. There's goodies in the solid material - just blend or grind it as finely as you can, or you could do your digestive system some damage (dont swallow sharp bits!)

Be aware also that some poppies are inactive, or very weak. I don't think peonie poppies contain any opiate alkaloids, for example (but i could be wrong - stopped using pods years ago).
Tread lightly and be safe!
 
I drank the drink to get a feel for the potency (if it gets you high, save the rest for another day) - then washed the grinds down, as you would do swallowing a pill.
ie put the ground up pods in your mouth and wash down with water/juice/tea. There's goodies in the solid material - just blend or grind it as finely as you can, or you could do your digestive system some damage (dont swallow sharp bits!)

Be aware also that some poppies are inactive, or very weak. I don't think peonie poppies contain any opiate alkaloids, for example (but i could be wrong - stopped using pods years ago).
Tread lightly and be safe!
The peony poppies are from the sub group papaver somniferum paeniflorum and are most certainly active just much milder. Now it can get confusing because there are other P Som varieties with ruffled flowers or doubled flowers that are not from those sub groups but are sometimes called peony poppies or double peony poppies. So now I am a bit confused if I have actually used the sub groups or just used a variety that was called a peony poppy but was not an actual offshoot. Calling all poppy tea drinkers. Are the two papaver somniferum sub groups active?
 
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I currently have Turkish red, Persian white, Tazmanian purple and Pepperbox Opium.

I tried grinding up 4 of the Turkish red pods. (only 5 days after petals fell off so maybe too early)

Blended for a couple of minutes with an apple & rhubarb fruit juice. Consumed all of the contents yet almost 3 hours after I've still noticed no effects what so ever.

Am I doing something wrong?

Cheers.
 
Most definitely wait till the crown of the poppy is somewhat flat or pointing down. I think I used to wait a minimum of three weeks after the petals fell off. Many wait till the poppy natural dries or a minimum of one month. They should be nice and swollen as well the soil should be allowed to dry out some what. The pods begin to get a bluish hue at this point.
 
Most definitely wait till the crown of the poppy is somewhat flat or pointing down. I think I used to wait a minimum of three weeks after the petals fell off. Many wait till the poppy natural dries or a minimum of one month. They should be nice and swollen as well the soil should be allowed to dry out some what. The pods begin to get a bluish hue at this point.

Thanks.

Wading through this absolutely huge amount of differing information on the humble poppy is becoming seriously tiresome but with others help I'm hoping I will eventually get there.
 
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