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What is the most addictive substance?

Burnt Offerings said:
It's really difficult to say how prevalent opiate use would be in a society in which they were sold legally, on a retail level...on the one hand, they are quite addictive of course, but on the other hand I feel that a lot of the desperate, craven, "addict-y" behavior inspired by them is a direct result of them not being fully legal and therefore having the supply being uncertain. It would be an entirely different paradigm if they were legal, regulated & freely available, and I'm not sure how it would ultimately turn out (I'm a supporter of drug legalization BTW)

Plus, a lot of people who are opiate addicts are just fucking obsessed with them and dramatically overestimate the pull of opiates on everyone, including those who may not share their obsession for that particular class of drug
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That is true. Not everybody finds them addicting. I don't even find them that attractive as recreational drugs. They are alright. But they are pretty shitty compared to other drugs.

Erikmen said:
I guess there are a various ways to evaluate how addiction works considering some may be way more addictive but also how difficult it is to stop, how does a certain chemical relate to your life, etc, etc.

Of course drugs like crack cocaine, heroin will make you urge to do it again while this wouldn't apply at all for cigarettes. But once you are hooked it's a different story and how hard it is to come off of different drugs. Each one with different levels of difficulty. On top of that we are all so different.
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I think the moorish nature of crack makes it more addicting than heroin. And if more people tried am 2201/used it regularly, they would be just as addicted to it as crack and heroin, in my opinion. It's shares all the moorisheness and addictive potential. Online reports and comparisons tend to support this.
 
my opinion & experience in regards to the main difference, in terms of being addicted to cigarettes versus dope, is that cigarettes don't send you into a violent days-long withdrawal state subsequent to cessation. sure there are symptoms, but they seem to be exponentially lighter than dope sickness.

i can't speak to crack as i've never tried it, but if it's anything like cocaine i'd think the "withdrawals" are limited to the time it takes to come down - hours as opposed to days.

though i think we can all agree addiction sucks no matter the substance haha
 
out of curiosity, would you say crack leads to extended-type withdrawals? not just a brutal hours-long come-down, i mean like multiple days (at least a day).
 
The only drug that has ever elicited any junkie-esque behavior out of me is weed. Smoke every day, and when I get low, I go into a panic and have to find more (which has been very hard where I live recently). I've abused benzos, opiates, and alcohol excessively and never had any addiction or adverse effects. ONLY weed.

Hell, I even divide my bud into tiny fractions and plan how to smoke each one.
 
Yes and everybody smokes weed, all the time, everywhere. I like it too. I have actually had a lot of insights tripping on MJ.
 
Erikmen said:
Yes and everybody smokes weed, all the time, everywhere. I like it too. I have actually had a lot of insights tripping on MJ.
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It's definitely my favorite drug, but it's so hard to escape. Like you said, everyone everywhere is smoking it. I may or may not be vaping some right now...
 
Smoking tobacco takes a lot of work. You normally feel dizzy and puke on the first times. It is not that enjoyable.
When I started smoking cigarettes on my teen years, it took me more than a couple of days to do it right.
When you are used to smoking it's a bit refreshing, especially if you stressed. But it's more like a refill your nicotine need imo.
 
I used to definitely get psychoactive effects from cigarettes. The so-called "head rush" was one of the big reasons I started smoking...I enjoyed the effects of nicotine as a mild stimulant drug. Eventually I ceased getting those effects so I quit smoking. Unlike some other addictions I've had, with cigarettes/nicotine I stayed quit and never looked back (I quit before the whole vaping thing became big) It's a dumb addiction, I'm glad I quit.
 
Back when I worked construction I could go without having lunch during my break but I'd be damned if I wasn't gonna have a cigarette! That's the only time in my life that I experienced real, physical cravings for nicotine, but man they were intense...something about the heat (summer in central Texas) and the hard physical work I was doing made me absolutely crave a smoke...the enjoyment I got out of that first initial drag, though...almost makes me miss smoking. Sooo pleasurable...hearing the lighter flick and the cigarette paper burn as I took that first, awesome hit of poison into my lungs...hmmm!
 
Definitely cigarettes, and when I was high on anything else, I always wanted a cigarette to 'top off' that high.
 
Have any of you smoked out of a pipe and taken a huge rip like you would of the tobacco like it was weed? It's different than smoking a cigarette. Whole different buzz...

And, strangely, I noticed that while on wellbutrin - 150 mg IR qid - that smoking is way more addicting - I never found it addicting at all before; I just smoked out of boredom some times. Now I sit downs and constantly puff on my pipe. And I need to smoke after eating always, like clockwork. And I smoke EVERY time I wake up in the night (I wake up multiple times - I have insomnia - this is nothing new, have had it for the last decade)
 
Xanax is so weird, like as far as I'm concerned it's actually less fun than weaker benzos like Valium, but yet I just want to keep eating bars after bars.

I think quite a few pages back I said the most addictive substance I used is benzos in general, well now I'd like to revise that to Xanax. Shit is crazy.
 
stimuleye said:
Definitely cigarettes, and when I was high on anything else, I always wanted a cigarette to 'top off' that high.
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I can relate to that. We often smoke after shooting, drinking, we smoke even more than normal when we are high.
Having a cigarette when you are high is a must for most of people I know. At least from my generation.
I noticed there are less and less smokers these days which is good. I also noticed that there are more smokers in Europe.
But even in US, before the 90s until early 2000s you could smoke everywhere, including restaurants, bars and airplanes.
 
It's interesting what people find addictive. I don't find alprazolam to be addictive at all, for example...at this point you couldn't pay me to take Xanax, unless I was having a severe panic attack or something. I was more of the kind of drug user who loved shooting meth, smoking the most high-grade headfuck sativa I could find, and eating an eighth of psilocybin mushrooms...loved the "visceral" drug experiences, I hate feeling "numb"

But some people are more into tranquilizers and opiates and that's cool too. We are all unique and special snowflakes :) ;)
 
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